Muslim Lady with great fortitude - Wajma Frough

Just hours after Wazhma Frogh arrived in an isolated, conservative district in northeastern Afghanistan in 2002, the local mullah was preaching to his congregation to kill her. Ms. Frogh was meddling with their women with her plan to start a literacy program, he told the assembly.
As she walked past the mosque during noon prayers, his words caught her ear. Shocked, she marched straight into the mosque. In a flowing black chador that left her face uncovered, she strode past the male worshipers and faced the mullah. Trembling inside, she challenged him.
“Mullah, give me five minutes,” she recalls saying. “I will tell you something, and after that if you want to say I am an infidel and I am a threat to you, just kill me.”
She then rattled off five Koranic verses – in both Arabic and the local Dari language – that extol the virtues of education, tolerance, and not harming others. She criticized local practices of allowing men to use Islam to justify beating their wives, betrothing young girls, and denying women an education.
The room was silent. All eyes were on Frogh and the mullah. Then the mullah rested his hand on her head.
“God bless you, my daughter,” he said.
With that, Frogh won permission to start the literacy program that later helped women from Badakhshan Province participate in local government and run for the national assembly.
Where rigid interpretations of Islam relegate women to second-class status, Frogh uses rhetorical jujitsu to turn religious arguments on their heads and win women’s rights. Her steely determination has earned her attention in Washington.
“In a country where religion is so important to people, we need to understand the religion,” she says. Arguments based on principles of universal human rights or on what international conventions say don’t persuade many Afghans to support reforms, she says. “[M]y experience in the last 10 years is this does not matter to the people in Afghanistan,” she says. Only religious arguments hold sway.
The international development field has lately seen more of that approach, says Rachel McCleary, a fellow at the Center for International Development at Harvard. In the 1960s and '70s, foreign aid became more secularized, but now religious groups are a growing presence in international development work, says Ms. McCleary.
Frogh is like a number of Islamic scholars – from the United States to Yemen – who are using religious jurisprudence to argue that women have greater rights under Islam, convince leaders in Muslim communities to make reforms, or even turn around extremists who use Islam to justify violence. As an Afghan Muslim, Frogh is in the best position to persuade other Afghan Muslims to support her various projects, experts say.
“The fact [that] this woman is from within, and from the culture and society is much more powerful and salient than if a woman from outside said the same thing,” says Eileen Babbitt, professor of International Conflict Management Practice at Tufts University’s Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy.
The power of religion
Indeed, Frogh believes so deeply in the power of religious arguments to bring reforms, she plans to get a graduate degree related to Islam. She says many mullahs in Afghanistan are usually only schooled by their fathers, who may be illiterate and not understand the Koran’s original Arabic, even if they have memorized it. Her breadth of religious knowledge is key to persuading local religious leaders.
“My goal is to really represent Islam. It’s not a religion that oppresses women,” Frogh says. “Of course it’s very risky. I may lose my life during this process, but if I am able to open a door for rights for one woman, then it is worth it.”
She has worked for various humanitarian and development agencies to give women greater rights and education in Afghanistan. Now she works for the Canadian International Development Agency in Afghanistan, consulting on the suitability of projects there, implementing a gender-equity policy, and conducting feasibility studies and other preparations for new projects.
Changing men’s perceptions
The mullah in Badakhshan Province is one of many men she persuaded to change with regard to their ideas about women. The first was her father. When her wealthy family fled upheaval in Afghanistan in the 1990s for Pakistan, her father, a rigid former Army officer, had a hard time supporting the family.
Frogh, then in eighth grade, thought of a way to help. She offered her landlord’s children tutoring in exchange for cheaper rent.
“It made a difference in the way my father perceived me,” Frogh says. “He thought women are consumers [who could] never be providers.” He even began to consult her on family decisions.
“Because I was able to have that status in the family, it got me thinking. I could be a lawyer and help other people,” she recalls. Even as a child, injustice needled her. She resented the fact that women ate in the kitchen while men dined in the living room. Girls swept the yard, but boys played in it.
Her nation’s future: hopeful, tenuous
At the age most American teenagers are learning to drive, Frogh crouched at night on the family’s toilet in Pakistan studying English. Only there could she turn on a light without disturbing anyone in their one-room home.
Now, not yet 30, she has President Bush’s attention. In February she and women from three other countries met with Washington policymakers and aid donors to discuss women and security. The president made a surprise appearance during the group’s meeting with the first lady. With her usual directness, Frogh described Afghanistan’s future to the president as hopeful but tenuous.
“There is not justice,” she recalls telling Mr. Bush. “The Taliban is very much all over the country. Those [who] have violated human rights, they are the ones in the government.” Frogh’s solution: After her studies, aim high. “I want to be chief justice.”

This shows that individual effort can make a difference and that All Mullah’s are not exremists…but years of Male chauvanism will take a lot effort to turn around…She wants to be Chief Justice…
Hope she makes it…but considering what happened in Pakistan…Chief Justice position is another pawn…maybe She can be the Queen on the Chessboard of Afghanistan…:slight_smile:

Re: Muslim Lady with great fotitude - Wajma Frough

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the local mullah was preaching to his congregation to kill her. Ms. Frogh was meddling with their women with her plan to start a literacy program, he told the assembly.
As she walked past the mosque during noon prayers, his words caught her ear. Shocked, she marched straight into the mosque. In a flowing black chador that left her face uncovered, she strode past the male worshipers and faced the mullah. Trembling inside, she challenged him.
"Mullah, give me five minutes," she recalls saying. "I will tell you something, and after that if you want to say I am an infidel and I am a threat to you, just kill me."
She then rattled off five Koranic verses – in both Arabic and the local Dari language – that extol the virtues of education, tolerance, and not harming others. She criticized local practices of allowing men to use Islam to justify beating their wives, betrothing young girls, and denying women an education.
The room was silent. All eyes were on Frogh and the mullah. Then the mullah rested his hand on her head.
"God bless you, my daughter," he said.
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This is too good to be true. I don't believe it

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You are soo right Sara Ji.....exactly what my reaction was when I first read this.........seems this Wajma Lady has a lot of guts walking into a Masjid on Friday while the Khutba was going on...................Hazrat Omar (RA) was once confronted by a Lady during his Friday Khutba....she questioned his decision in front of all the gathering.................Hazrat Omar's (RA) comments were......I am Happy that there are persons like you who are not afraid to question my decisions.....
Ms Wajma reminds me of that incedence.........May Allah Bless her and reward her for what she is doing.!

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It took a few verses of Quran from a woman's mouth to change the heart of that mullah, who spent all his life reading and teaching Quran and Islam.
Allah save us all from these kind of Jahil Mullahs. Who read Quran on daily basis but do not get the real message. Ameen.
I sometimes wonder what will it take to change the mentality of these freaks .Who gave them the contract to control our lives using Quran and Islam. I can't believe that this freak wanted to kill a women just because she wanted to start a school for girls and women.
P. S: This story seems too good to be true to me also . Allah knows the best.

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I don't believe the fact that he was a "mullah" who was ready to have her KILLED and it only took a few verses to change his mind. I don't believe that he can really be that dumb.

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I did some googling and found that this article was published by Christian Science Monitor .
She herself is regular contributor at http://www.persianmirror.com/community/writers/wazhmafrogh/wazhmafrogh.cfm
strangely none of her articles have any reference to this incident.
Personaly I do not care if the story about change of mullah’s heart is true or not. But I do relate to the moral of the story.

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**Here is the post from the Christian Science Monitor with THIS article…

and her picture is also posted in it!

I can not understand why people are so skeptical when it comes to Good News in the Muslim World…:frowning:
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Its interesting how some use Quran to actually promote the rights of women in Islam whereas some use it to say women are oppressed in Islam. Past background plays into it much. I find this article pretty unbelievable.

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I think the journalist mixed up the story related to Hazrat Omar , which she might have told him in the process of interview and he being high at the time attributed the story to her. She seems to be very reasonable woman , I would think she will not make stuff up to be a hero. She is a hero already.

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Peace

I do believe this article. It is about time that people use religious knowledge to combat ignorance on both sides, i.e. secular and non-secular.

For me the Qur'an is that powerful and when a person needs the help of Allah (SWT) is comes. We all believe in the story of the Boy and the King (Surah Al Buruj) where the boy prays to Allah (SWT) to be helped, his karamat came from putting himself in a position of Jihad. This sister did the same. She knew she would be subject to trials and she put herself on the podium to promote Islam, so then why cannot the aid of Allah (SWT) come to this woman?

The woman may have many doubts that the Mullah would have accepted her statement, but she was going to be killed anyway so she might as well have got killed while speaking the truth. If the mullah would not hear at least his congregation would. I think Allah (SWT) had given her the gift of a convincing argument and after seeing the crowds reaction do any of you think that he would go against what truth was hitting off their reaction to her words ...

Yes ... we should all do this it is about time.

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Peace Sister

I think the word "dumb" is out of place here. When a Muslim hears the Qur'an and submits to it ... this is not a dumb thing. This is what every Muslim should do. I think though Mullahs speak out of ignorance most of the time they prevail over one aspect that even educated secular Muslims cannot fathom. That is honesty in their love for the religion. When he heard the truth I can believe he will accept it, despite his ignorance.

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Peace to you too.
He is Mullah for crying out loud . He had heard the holy Quran and whatever this leady told him and the whole congregation. He had heard this truth many many times. We are not talking about non-belivers of Makkah from Holy Prophets(SAW) time. We are talking about an Imam of Masjid. That is why 2 and 2 are not adding up for me too.

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Is ignorant a better word?
I assume that a "mullah" is someone who has read Quran, studied it, and knows more than the average Muslim would.
I don't believe either the "mullah" could be so ignorant that one minute he will be ordering someone to be killed and in the next second be so forgiving, after she simply states Quranic verses....as if he had never heard them before.

Either this article is really messed up or if that mullah is really so ignorant....then God help that society.

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HAHAHA!!!

Sara, all these women who stand against the stereotypical Muslim man are heroines and always start off with them facing down the men...Dr. Wadood, Irshad Manji e.t.c....

They typical starting line is always her marching in and heroically challenging the world with their ideas and cowing the enemies into submission...

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Kudos to this woman. It appears as if this type of heroic behavior makes the men in charge quite nervous.

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I am skeptical of the introduction story too, just with the way it is written. There might have been more tension involved than was portrayed, you never know. Seems more like typical wearing-my-heart-on-my-sleeve type of drama baazi that Christian Monitor is well known for.

However, I'm glad that they actually published a positive story on a muslim, for once.

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Your assumption could more likely be wrong as there are only few mullahs who have " studied " Qur'an.

She stated Qur'anic verses and the translation....may be the mullah never read or heard the translation like most typical mullahs who only read Arabic text without the understanding.

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So if they've never actually "studied" the Quran like you say, then what makes someone a "mullah"? the ability to speak? That's pretty sad.

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LOL...chances are, she had a long conversation with the village elders, Mullah included, and after explaining herself and coming across as an "insider", and not a foreign Jahil out to "fix" the locals, she probably got everyones blessing.

On the other hand, if indeed she is doing good work, and silly stories like this help her out, then more power to her. It'd be a hoot if she'd portray herself as some kind of feminist champion, going around lobbying for funds among the gullible who'll believe anything negative about Muslims and Islam, and to turn around and use those funds to help the average person out...sans any socio-political agenda.

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Att Bro. Mirch and Sis Sara516

Peace on you both

When the prophet Muhammad (SAW) passed away ... Umar (RA) would threaten to kill anyone who said that Muhammad (SAW) had died. He did so in clouded passion over the loss of his beloved. Abu Bakr (RA) clarified the situation and what was the reply Umar (RA) gave?

"It was as if I had never heard those verses before and when they were related by Abu Bakr (RA) it was as if they were being sent down then"

So if a great Sahabi can forget the Qur'an ... why is it you cannot apply the same logic on a Mullah?