My one muslim friend from Pakistan is married to a hindu girl. He never goes to Pakistan with his wife because he fears that his parents or relatives may compel his hindu wife to accept islam. He gets letters from his relatives. They say that he will get heaven, jannat, if his wife becomes a muslim. What should he do, as he and his wife do not want religion to come in between in their life?
Is it good to compel someone to change religion to Islam? Does it give jannat?
Islamically speaking, there is no marriage to begin with between the two as it is Islamically totally Haraam and forbidden... Period!
Re: Muslim husband, hindu wife
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Is it good to compel someone to change religion to Islam? Does it give jannat?
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Jannat does not come "compel" way. If he can talk to her and she agrees to convert then that could earn him. But as Anwaar said, "Shariah" wise they are not married yet.
Bengun, I assume from your post that your friend's wife does not want to change her religion, or be emotionally blackmailed into accepting a new one? Poor girl, sounds as if her in-laws are trying to make her life a living hell in their quest to get to heaven.
Tell him to stick to his guns and not give in. His wife will appreciate him for being a man. And for being a friend.
tell her to become Muslim, he'll be set. what's the big deal for her anyway, Islam is so much cooler than H.
Is the wife a practicing hindu? If she's not then your friend should try to convert her(not forcibly though) and have Nikah with her again if he wants his marriage to be accepted Islamically.
i think for your friend it's a mute point..religion isn't important to him and they don't want it to be..so why change the wife's religon?
He should tell his family that she is a hindu and she will stay that way..and that was their decision.
IF he does not have the guts..they can just act like she's muslim...and lie to deal with the family.
Either way...the family will of course try to tell him what to do because that's what families do..they want to advise/help you be good...nothing bad in that.
Is it good to compel someone to change religion to Islam? Does it give jannat?
This Pakistani friend has no problem with his hindu wife. Only he visits Pakistan without her, because he knows that people there will compel him to select heaven if the couple goes together.
I know about a Syrian polish family. The Polish lady accepted Islam for the sake of her Muslim Syrian husband and family. But she is a muslim only when they visit Syria, otherwise no roza, no namaz. On Christian religious occasions she visits the church and often makes a Christ cross when among friends. I think she has corrupted Islam, and the people, her Muslim husband and family are a party to this corruption and must go to dozhakh all together.
only way to bring integration is to encourage mixing of caste and religen in india so only one national identity exists but still it is long way to go.
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Islamically speaking, there is no marriage to begin with between the two as it is Islamically totally Haraam and forbidden... Period!
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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that laws apply only in muslim majority countries . what about in non-muslim countries?
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This Pakistani friend has no problem with his hindu wife. Only he visits Pakistan without her, because he knows that people there will compel him to select heaven if the couple goes together.
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It's a bit late in the day to start thinking of heaven/hell/non-marriage etc. It amounts to betrayal. If he starts acting like a doofus now then he should have told her at the start 'listen honey somewhere down the road I am going to blackmail you into becoming a muslim, still wanta marry me?'. If she had been attracted to Islam she would have become a muslim of her own free will. Without the carrots and sticks.
I think Amelie's advice is not bad, they can play act. But personally I think it amounts to cowardice.
There is no marriage between him and her. she's not even a person of the Book. What I would suggest instead of rigid statements is to ease her in rather than pushing the pillow of Islam on her face to make her suffocate. Let her test the waters to see if she likes it, then she will come into the religion on her own if she wants.
First of all, the husband should stop committing zina. Only then he should worry about his wife's conversion. Helloooo!?!?!
At this point, his priorities seem to be a bit skewed, IMV.
the marriage is haraam!
Men are only allowed 2 marry woman who are aile kitab. Hindus dont fit into this category therefore she must convert inorder to legalize their relationship and marriage contract.
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you dont know what goes on book is different
from what is really happens on the ground.
sharia is not the law for me since i dont live under sharia.
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Read carefully, he said "applies to Muslims". which part did you not get?
Some points are really important. Islam does not allow inter-religion marriage, on the other hand we fight against racism.
No one is suggesting the guy to change religion. I want to assure you that other religions also offer heaven, it is not a copyright of one religion.
This guy has no problem, the couple is happy.
No one is paying attention that real problem is his parents and relatives who do not want to give up a chance of heaven. If this marriage is haram, my friend damn care for that.
( Karina, their marriage is a problem in Pakistan, not in between the two.)
wait a minute, heavenly knowhow darlings,
wasn't your prophet married to Maria, a cristian -copt slave girl? She never accepted Islam!! right??
And ditto for Rayhana , a jewish wife of Mohammad, who never accepted Islam, and was a jew during marriage!!
So were those marriages, null according to Islam?
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No one is suggesting the guy to change religion. I want to assure you that other religions also offer heaven, it is not a copyright of one religion.
This guy has no problem, the couple is happy.
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Hey thats the first thing i thought!! unfortunately read this topic petty late...Yep,how about he converting to hinduism??
why the heck should one care for 72 houris...when he would get unlimited apsaras, madira, music and dance in Swarag for lot less...No rozas, no complusive reading of vedas, No five times pujas a day..and a vast selection of gods and goddess!! what more would you ask for??? glee!
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*Originally posted by bengun: *I want to assure you that other religions also offer heaven, it is not a copyright of one religion.
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True, other religions offer heaven, but only Islam can actually get you there. The rest are false, or at best corrupted severely by man.
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wait a minute, heavenly knowhow darlings,
wasn't your prophet married to Maria, the cristian -copt slave girl? She never accepted Islam!! right??
And ditto for Rayhana , a jewish wife of Mohammad, who never accepted Islam, and was a jew during marriage!!
So were those marriages, null according to Islam?
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He was never married to a woman called Rehana - the only Jewess he married was Safiyya (ra), who accepted Islam just before marriage.
Maria (ra), as I understant, remained Christian initially after her marriage but then accepted Islam.
And bear in mind that the Quran permits Muslims to take pious women from the Ahle-Kitaab (People of the Book) as wives, and does not lay down on them the condition that they convert first. So a marriage between a Muslim man and a pious Christian or Jewish woman is perfectly .
The issue here is that hindus are not considered to be Ahle-Kitaab, as the Torah, Psalms, or Gospel was not revealed to them. They are not a religious group to which any of these three books was revealed and can therefore not be considered as People of the Book.