Does anyone know of any Muslim exorcists in Pakistan, States or anywhere?
There’s a sister I know and apparently her aunt has done black magic on her and also sent a jinn to possess her.
Also if anyone knows of any verses from the Quran or authentic prayers of the Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wa aalihe wassallam), which can be used for curing witchcraft and jinn possession, then please post them.
I'm personally somewhat sceptical, but one of my best friends is the grandson of a Kurdish imam. My friend (who is no gullible fool - he's a business school graduate working as an investment banker) adamantly maintains that he saw on many occasion in Turkey people acting very strangely being brought before his grandfather, with their families saying that they were posessed by jinns. My friend's grandfather would recite the Quran and prayers, and shortly thereafter the person would start behaving normally again, with the jinn exorcised.
'Ifrit', derived from 'Afara which means, he threw him on the ground or humbled him, is a word used both for men and jinn and means,
(1) one strong and powerful;
(2)sharp, vigorous and effective in an affair, exceeding ordinary bounds therein with intelligence and sagacity;
(3) a chief, etc.
This verse indicates that the said' ifrit' was a very high official who wielded great authority and was, therefore, quite confident of carrying out the orders of his master to entire satisfaction within the time alloted to him. 'Maqamika' signifies the place where Hazrat Solomon has encamped on his way to Saba was waiting for his envoy to come back with the reply to his letter to the Queen of Sheba.
So in this verse it doesn't mean a jinn which can occupy somebody's mind and soul but a chief or a strong person. Holy Quran does entertain the idea that a person with bad thoughts about somebody can influence other person in a negative way but its totaly different from a 'Jinn' occupying somebody's body.
mAd_ScIeNtIsT yeah this girl who claims to be possessed says her grandfather use to be an Islamic exorcist too. Jinn’s do exist, it’s proven from the Quran and the Sunnah.
fatehahmad that’s the Qadiyani interpretation and I’m a Muslim so obviously I don’t believe in the Prophethood of Ghulam Mirza Ahmed Qadiyani or any of his teachings.
Allah also says in the Quran that he created Mankind and Jinn to worship Him, he mentions Jinn separately and there are lots of other Quranic verses and Ahadeeth on this subject which prove that Jinn’s are real and that they are spirits created from black, smokeless fire.
Where does Qadianiyat comes into this. If you nothing positive to add then keep quite.
I have raised some points and presented a commentary of the verses of Holy Quran. If you want to refute the points raised by me, then bring some verses from Holy Quran. Just calling me a Qadiani to refute the point is a futile effort.
I don’t want to argue I’m simply not interested in your religion or any of your beliefs. I’m quite happy being a Muslim thanks.
The Muslim scholars have refuted your twisted religion, which was created by a bootlicker of the British time and time again in the light of Quran and Ahadeeth, but Qadiyani’s/Ahmadi’s seem to be dumb, deaf and blind.
The very basis of your religion is falsehood (i.e. Ghulam Mirza Ahmed Qadiyani claiming to be a prophet) so it’s not very logical that we start discussing other things.
Anyway this thread wasn’t open so that people can start preaching their false beliefs but I was hoping some Muslim could help the sister.
^ My suggestion to you is ask some person knowledgable, like a scholar or an imam. There is no point in wasting your time getting answers from Mirzaees.
There is a Hafiz Quran, who practices in the city of Peshawar - Sarki Gate. He can help you out in a big way. Ppl come from far off places like pindi & Isb 4 his help. People I've seen who r uncurable, brought on munjees r able 2 walk back home.
Black magic & witchcraft Xists & it is becoz of this, that Surah An Nas was sent 2 Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.W). Our Prophet was also affected by black magic.
I was given this wazeefah by that Hafiz
Read Ayat Al Kursi, & then read the four Surahs - Surah Al Kafiroon, Surah Samad, Surah Al Falak, Surah An Nas after every prayer. This will ward off any black magic.
The jinn that ur speaking about who has been sent 2 harm her, is a very dangerous thing. U should immediately get her 2 a Hafiz nearby who deals in these matters & sort her problems out be4 its too late. My friend's mom was a victim. She died of a heart attack in 2000.
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Where does Qadianiyat comes into this. If you nothing positive to add then keep quite.
I have raised some points and presented a commentary of the verses of Holy Quran. If you want to refute the points raised by me, then bring some verses from Holy Quran. Just calling me a Qadiani to refute the point is a futile effort.
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I remember very well when this Jinn issue was discussed with people of your cult. It was a long discussion which shocked us all about how each and every thing in the Quraan has been distorted by you. Your jumping into everything with the mirzaee version is a futile effort to get yourself in the mainstream!
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It’s my fault really, I should have said in my post that I only want Muslims to reply or only those people who had something positive to contribute.
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Dear brother,
I myslef have seen a person like that, in which Jinn spoke. It may sound funny, but the incident was that he was arguing with us there is nothing called jinn. Suddenly his voice changed and the jinn spoke. I couldn't say a word out of fear. This was seen by 10 people around him. I was not the only one.
If somebody hasn't seem something like this it doesen't mean that thing doesen't exist. There are some bad jinns just like bad humans who create mischief.
Yes I also believe in medicine. Disease is something else, and as Muslims we are commanded to go for medicine and then dua. I am sure you we can differentiate between a disease and jinn related thing.