Muslim boy in India beaten black and blue for posing with Hindu girls

Shining India under Modi’s government. You can not take picture with Hindu girls because you are Muslim. **

A 20-year-old Muslim boy was badly beaten up allegedly by the ‘moral police’ in India’s southern state Mangaluru for posing in a picture with his Hindu female classmates.**

The image, which went viral on Whatsapp, shows a college student lying on the laps of five female classmates and another male student sitting behind them, identified as Muhammad Riyaz.
Riyaz was hunted down by a gang of locals in Mangalore, driven to an isolated location and badly beaten, before being driven back, according to The Indian Express](Whatsapp picture raises hackles of moral police in Mangalore | India News - The Indian Express).
“After the photograph was circulated on social media sites, a vigilante group got other students from the college to identify the deviant youth and on learning that he was probably a Muslim, decided to attack him,” Assistant Commissioner of Police Ravi Kumar told The Indian Express](Whatsapp picture raises hackles of moral police in Mangalore | India News - The Indian Express).
The computer science student has been admitted to a private hospital in the city.
Riyaz said he was “kidnapped” near his house when he was with his friends. The men blindfolded him and took him to an isolated location where they beat him with wooden sticks. Further, he said they asked him if he was Muslim and wanted to know why he took a photo with Hindu girls.
Riyaz’s father has registered a complaint with the police, who have filed a case of abduction and attempt to murder.

Muslim boy in India beaten black and blue for posing with Hindu girls – The Express Tribune

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These vigilante groups would unravel India...

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Mangalore area is notorious for such right wing vigilantism, and it has been happening for quite a few years (even before Modi came to power). These are the same goons who attacked Hindu girls who went to pubs, and wanted to get couples married off if they were seen with each other on Valentine’s Day. They are just criminals and should be dealt with strictly.

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Now i wonder what percentage of Indian HIndus believe the Muslim student deserved what he got?!? Or sympathize with the motive here ?

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:D Why don't you carry out a poll ?

But lets not trivialize the Charlie Hebdo murders. Getting beaten up for chatting with girls is pretty routine in India, doesn't matter what religion you belong to.

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Im just curious why there are no polls on extremism among Hindus...

Hindu fanaticism as you well know has seen the deaths of THOUSANDS of Muslims, Sikhs etc. So in the setting of India, where so much blood has been shed by Hindu extremists over the years, making such parallels is justified if you ask me, and doesn't trivialize anything.

If anything, its perhaps you that trivialize prejudice in India by so callously brushing this aside. Maybe thats why such things happen in India, because you ignore them...

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Because Hindu extremism (Hindus resorting to violence in the name of Hinduism) is still very small globally and even in India, compared to Islamic extremism.

Pls elighten me on when Hindu extremists (Hindus resorting to violence in the name of Hinduism) have targeted Sikhs.

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Too much damn right depressing stuff going on.

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We are speaking in the context of Hindu extremism in India. I should think that while outsiders could care less, Indians themselves would be interested to know the nature and extent of extremism in their own country.

So for an Indian who is so concerned about extremism among Muslims, i would expect you to be equally concerned about extremism among your own people.

The Anti-Sikh riots of 1984… Hindu extremism goes hand in hand with Hindu nationalism, as Bharat is strongly tied in with the Hindu faith.

Anti-Sikh riots: Digvijaya says probe RSS role - The Hindu

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Even in the context of India, Hindu extremism is small. And the largely tolerant & peaceful Hindu population will ensure that it stays that way.

These comments just reveal your ignorance about India. Its been proven that Congress workers were responsible for 1984 Sikh riots, and Congress has never been a Hindu party. And quoting Digvijay Singh ? That has to be the height of desperation. Will you quote Zaid Hamid next ?

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How many people have died at the hands of Hindu extremism in Indian since partition and before?
How would you know if its a "small" problem unless there are polls to support it ? Can you provide some polling ?
Where was that largely peacful Hindu community during the riots? Same community that voted in Modi no less.

Oh im sorry. Hindu nationalist extremism... Very similar to German nationalism.

Hinduism had nothing to do with it im sure. I guess that makes it all better.

I wonder if you picked up on the sarcasm there...

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Like I said in my earlier post, you are pretty ignorant about India. India was 85% Hindu at the time or partition. Hindu population today is around 78%. Had Hindu extremism been as rampant as you are making it out to be, the demographics of India would have been very different. Now compare that to the condition of minorities in Pakistan.

Coming back to the original issue, Islamic terrorism is a global issue. Kidnapping of girls in Africa, Charlie Hebdo shootings in France, 9/11 in USA, London train bombings, Australia hostage crisis all have one common theme.

The reason I am concerned about Islamic extremism is that it can impact me living in the USA, UK, India or Australia. But Hindu terrorism will not impact you. So your attempts at trying to prove that Hindu extremism is comparable come across as very desperate.

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Meanwhile Shiv Sina is back to their original demand of sending Indian Muslims to Pakistan.. Ofcourse thats what their manifesto is all about..
But I find it realy funny when Indian muslims defend them or modi.

Shiv Sena to Indian Muslims: For special treatment, go to Pakistan – The Express Tribune

Shiv Sena to Indian Muslims: For special treatment, go to PakistanBy Web Desk
Published: March 3, 2015

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Lashing out at Indian Muslim leader Asaduddin Owaisi for demanding more rights for Muslims in Maharashtra, Shiv Sena said on Tuesday if Owaisi wants his demands to be met on religious grounds, then he should go to Pakistan.
“Owaisi may try and get his demands based on religious grounds fulfilled in Pakistan,” a Shiv Sena statement read, according to the Times of India](Shiv Sena to Muslims: For special treatment, go to Pakistan | India News - The Times of India).
Addressing a public gathering in Nagpur Saturday night, The All India Majlis-e-Ittahadul Muslimeen president Owaisi had demanded reservation for backward Muslims in government jobs and educational institutes in Maharashtra.
Terming his statement “hateful,” Shiv Sena said, “”Owaisi is insisting that Muslims should get reservation akin to the Marathas. Such insistence had caused the separation of Pakistan from India. Hatred for Hindus compelled a section of Muslims to take control over Pakistan.”
Shiv Sena further demanded government should file a case against him and start legal proceedings.
It added that Muslims would have to respect India as their motherland.
“They (Muslims) will have to respect the Uniform Civil Code and stop demanding the continuation of Article 370 for Kashmir. Asking for reservations while continuing with religious rants will not work,” it said.
Claiming Muslims suffered “injustice” in Maharashtra during Congress rule at the centre and the Congress-NCP and Shiv Sena -BJP governments in the state.
Hitting out at Owaisi’s statement that Muslims have suffered a lot, Shiv Sena questioned, “But will he give a count of the sufferings of Hindus due to the terrorist activities of extremist Muslims?”
“If extremists start communal violence and terrorist activities after listening to his speeches… Owaisi’s speeches should be termed as hateful and action should be taken against him,” Shiv Sena said.
Further, Indian President Pranab Mukherjee approved on Tuesday the Maharashtra Animal Preservation (Amendment) Bill, 1995, banning the slaughter of cows and bulls and threatening to imprison for five years anyone found to be selling the meat or in possession of it.
Read: Indian president approves ban on beef in Maharashtra
However, beef traders said they are checking if they can take legal action. The beef trade in the state is largely controlled by Muslims of the Qureshi caste.

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I sure am ignorant. Thank god we have you, the local expert on all things India and beyond. I dont want to hear your half baked logic, I want actual data. Where are the surveys on Hindu extremism?

Btw, that "demographic s would be different logic" is the same logic used to defend Muslim rule in India, which you dont regard all that highly as I recall.

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I find the logic that if something does not impact someone directly, they should stay out of it. In fact EVEN if something does not impact someone directly they should speak up against injustice.

Also I find it disturbing that one can simply trivialize such incidents. Shows lack of objectivity at the least.

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I am not trying to prove the existence or prevalence of Hindu extremism. On the contrary, I don't think its a big enough issue to warrant a survey. Now if you are concerned about it, why don't you provide the survey ? We can resume this discussion once you have that.

P.S. I am sure some "objective" Indians on this forum can help you with that ;)

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Another version of (non-)Secular Indians :chai:

Hindus must boycott films of Khans: BJP leaderBy Web Desk
Published: March 3, 2015

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BJP leader encouraged youngsters to not follow the Khan trio which includes Shahrukh, Salman and Aamir Khan. PHOTOS: REUTERS

DEHRADUN: **Bharatiya Janata Party leader and preacher Sadhvi Prachi said Hindus should boycott the Khan triumvirate of Bollywood as they promote a culture of violence, reportedHindustan Times.
“Our children do not get right samskars from the movies of the Khans. They promote love jihad,” she said, appealing to Hindus to not put up posters of the Khans on their walls but instead burn them down. Prachi also encouraged youngsters to not follow the Khan trio, which includes Shahrukh Khan, Salman Khan and Aamir Khan.
Read: Bollywood trio: Aamir on the three Khans in a film together
She said, “Love Jihad was not a form of inter-religion marriage but a forcible change in one’s beliefs with criminal intentions. Hindu organisations will never tolerate this.”

Hindus must boycott films of Khans: BJP leader – The Express Tribune

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Modi is enjoying kite flying with Salman Khan…

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Sadhvi Prachi is right: Time to boycott the Khans and embrace the Khurrana :smiley:

You’ve got to feel a little bad for the Hindu Right in this country. Left-leaning intellectuals have gone on and on, for years, about how they think Bollywood is spreading misogyny and lust for violence insidiously. Recently, a judge in Australia went so far as to accept that Bollywood’s depiction of romances was justification enough for a grown adult male to not know the difference between wooing a woman and stalking her. But here we are, up in arms against poor Sadhvi Prachi because she’s said pretty much what all these people have said before here: that Bollywood is driving the nation insane.
While the rest of us came to this understanding after watching Bollywood films, Sadhvi Prachi came to this conclusion after chatting with a kid in Meerut about his life’s ambitions.
“He said he wanted to become like Hritik Roshan, Shahrukh Khan, Salman Khan, Aamir Khan. When I asked why, his mother told me because they are good at doing stunts,” the Vishwa Hindu Parishad leader disclosed to her audience in Dehradun on Sunday.
Young boys want to grow up to be actors like Hrithik Roshan, Salman Khan and Shah Rukh Khan. And their mothers are supporting them in this dastardly plan. Ye gods, the apocalypse must be upon us!
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Never mind the culture of violence fostered by the riots and political violence that have become depressingly staple fare in so many parts of the country. Or even the calls to violence that VHP’s own leaders keep making to their congregations. Or the pent-up frustration that is the result of growing economic disparity, unemployment and other fiscal woes. The problem is Bollywood.
So Sadhvi Prachi wants us to boycott pulpy blockbusters by the Khans.
(That, incidentally, is the wet dream of a large number of film critics who watch films like Happy New Year and Kick and feel their brain ooze in a slow trickle out of their ears because of how tortuously stupid these blockbusters are. But never mind the trials and tribulations of being a film critic in India.)
Boycotting the Khans is an excellent idea, even if it is coming a little late in the day. Had Sadhvi Prachi recommended that Bollywood man up and break the stranglehold that A-list actors — that’s basically Salman, Shah Rukh and Aamir Khan, with the occasional Hrithik Roshan and Akshay Kumar thrown in for variety — a few years earlier, it would have done the industry a world of good. It would have encouraged new talent, made producers pay attention to scripts and direction instead of fixating on which star is being cast, and who knows? We might even have more blockbusters that were also good films in the process.
But not all the Botox and muscle-flexing in the world can change the fact that time is a great leveller. At 49, all three Khans are the old fogeys of Bollywood, desperately trying to stay relevant and clinging to their little starry fiefdoms which are under siege because there are new kids on the block. In a country where 54% of the population is in their twenties and in an age when we are obsessed with youth and youthfulness globally, old is not gold. The Khans are being replaced, slowly but steadily and the younger bunch, Sadhvi Prachi will be happy to know, are mostly Hindu. But she shouldn’t breathe too easy. Much like the Khans, the new brigade are happy to have a mix of idiotic comedies, cringe-inducing romances and gory thrillers in their filmography. The only silver lining is that the rising stars of Bollywood aren’t opposed to supporting the little indies, which have got a little love from Aamir in recent times and none from either Salman or Shah Rukh Khan at any point. Regardless of how much he messes it up, at least Varun Dhawan will try his hand at a Badlapur.
Speaking of modest indies, I’m disappointed that while lashing out at Bollywood, Sadhvi Prachi didn’t point out that there is a film out in theatres now that stars a Khurrana instead of a Khan, and is just the film that should warm all our hearts, regardless of our political leanings. Dum Laga ke Haisha could become the Hindutva brigade’s favourite film, the one to screen at annual general gatherings and at indoctrination camps.
Starring Ayushmann Khurrana and Bhumi Pendekar (note: good Hindu names), the film is set in the Hindu, holy city Haridwar. It has no violence, if you ignore minor details like a husband and wife slapping each other and a young man threatening to set himself on fire. Because hey, if it doesn’t have stunts and fake blood, it’s not real violence, ok? Liberals, make a* kachori* of emotional violence and stuff your faces with it.
The film’s hero is a young man who is deeply committed to his shakha, a gathering of men in shorts (and khaki sweaters) who meet in the morning and do PE together. If that doesn’t bring a single tear to the eyes of everyone with an RSS background, I don’t know what will. And the cherry on the cake: there’s a sub-plot in Dum Laga ke Haishaabout the hero’s aunt that is bound to make Sadhvi Prachi and gang choke up with emotion. The aunt was married as a child to a gentleman who sent her back to her family without any explanation. While she lives with her brother, hoping against hope that her husband will want her back, her husband goes on tirth-yatra (tours of pilgrimage spots). Surely this angle in Dum Laga ke Haisha will give Jashodaben Modi the warm fuzzies?
Most importantly, though, Dum Laga ke Haisha is a clever and heartwarming film. If Sadhvi Prachi wants a film that promotes good values and a culture of sensitivity instead of non-violence, then this is the one. It could also be one of the few films that both the Hindutva brigade and left-leaning liberals clap for delightedly and openly. It’s been a long time since Bollywood saluted that lot so stylishly.

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Am sorry Salman Khan fans, but this picture is gay. :smiley: