Re: Muslim attitudes towards rape [split: Muslim Women Gang Raped.. ]
Let me ask the same questions again which you ignored completely! Is there a problem with an adult man marrying an adult women? Who defines adulthood? You need to tell us why it is bad? Who defined that it is bad? Please give us some logical reasonings instead of repeating some stuff over and over again. Just saying that it is wrong is not a logical or rational answer! According to you, by the law of nature an adult man having sexual relationship with an adult women is a rape? Were you born as a result of rape? If a person has hit puberty then naturally that person is an adult…end of story. The person you define as little girl is not a girl anymore when she hits puberty. This is the law of nature, which you secular people do not seem to get it! As far concerning when a man can have sexual intercourse with his wife: I read a hadith a while ago (cannot find it anymore) in which Prophet (Peace be upon him) said something like do not have intercourse with your wives until they are physically ready for it. Also, it is well known that in Islam a man cannot have intercourse with his wife if it physically harms here, weather she is 10 years old or 50 years old.
The modern society has made this age thing so deceiving for people and like I said before it is funny how they do not even agree with each other. In one country the age of consensus is 12 and in another country it is 18. According to one country, a girl/boy is still little at the age of 14 and it is against the law if anyone has sexual intercourse with him/her, whereas in another country she/he has become an adult. We know that boys hit puberty as early as 13(if i am not wrong). So according to some countries a boy has become an adult even before actually becoming an adult! What kind of non-sense is this? so uberalles which one would you go with? I can even argue that a girl who reached the age of 18 is still young. How many times we do say: “that person died in such young age” for someone who was even 30 years old!
You people first need to resolve this adulthood age thing among yourselves and decide one age before you point figures at us, who are going with the law of nature.
I can pinpoint some basic logical errors but I do not think you have studied logic (just a comment not an insult) so let me put in simple language: please do not add your own interpretations! No one is saying that everyone should do it at the age of seven and the other partner should be 45 years old or whatever. What we are saying is that according to the law of nature a person becomes an adult when he/she hits puberty regardless of age; therefore it is naturally and morally correct if they get married etc. The important factor here is not age but adulthood! Why can’t people like you comprehend a simple thing that marriage is not about age! If two people who are marrying each other do not have a problem who the heck are you to say anything about it! If we were to assume that people do not reach adulthood (naturally) even if they pass the age of 20, what would you have said or done in such case?
** Some more facts and questions for pro pedophilia**
1- The word “pedophilia” was first introduced in 1905-that is like 103 years old and its root words are Greek and two different Greek words put together Source ]
2- The definition of pedophilia:
“a person, especially a man, who is sexually interested in children” (Cambridge International Dictionary)
“The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children” (The American Heritage Dictionary)
So stop calling Prophet (Peace be upon him) a pedophilia; he was not according to the dictionary. Our beloved mother 'Aisha (May Allah be pleased with her) had become a woman; she was not a child!
3- What if a 45 years old man engage in sexual activities with an 18 years old female or 12 or 14 years old (as they are considered adult in different countries)? Do you consider that as an act of pedophilia? Why or why not?