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*Originally posted by PakCanada: *
BROTHER no point in arguing ur point over and over again it is will of ALLAh. u go ahead and listen to music jsut like me but jsut remember it is haraam. and if u are bothered by reading quran in a melodic "musical" manner than read it in a different tone.
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I'm not bothered by hearing the Quran in a musical fashion. I think it's absolutely beatiful. Also, no I don't believe music to be haraam either.
Actually, your excuses for justifying that music is wrong are rather childish and molded for your own purpose. Music IS melody and you cannot deny that the Azaan and the recitation of the Holy Quran are musical in nature. Saying that it isn’t “musical” is saying that all music isn’t musical. If that’s the case, then music isn’t haram since it isn’t music right?
Also my question has not been answered. Why is the Azaan and Quran recited musically? And don’t say it isn’t melodic or musical because that is simply being ignorant.
Melody has not been forbidden musical instruments have been made forbidden, not by any Mullah or me but by Allah and his Prophet (peace be upon him) and I don’t know the reason why (not that it matters, if They say its forbidden then it is wrong, no matter what I think).
Recognising our sins is the first step to reforming ourselves. Obviously we’re not Angels we sin now and then and I never claimed to be a perfect Muslim myself but we should accept our sins as sins and hope to repent from then once. I just get angry when people try changing religion to suit their needs.
Khair… No point in arguing with you. You are using ‘common sense’ and I am using words of the Prophet (peace be upon him)… So we’re not arguing on common ground…
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*Originally posted by Saif-ul-Islam: *
Melody has not been forbidden musical instruments have been made forbidden
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Musical instruments create melody. The human voice is an instrument as well, which creates melody such as that used in the recitation of the Quran and Azaan. The duff (which is a musical instrument) is allowed, why?
This argument is going nowhere. people need to prove their point not by proving other person's point wrong but by finding something that can back ur own point.
btw, melody is music and duff is the Only instrument not haram in my knowledge.
Like I said before I don't know because I didn't make these rules up, If Allah or his Messenger (peace be upon him) say something I accept it as being perfect and true without arguing against it, sadly I might sometimes end up doing something against it and that makes me sinful but giving my own opinions preference over what Allah or his Prophet (peace be upon him) have said will make me an apostate (God forbid).
We don’t always understand the wisdom behind Allah Almighty’s orders because we don’t have the intellect to see the wisdom behind them.
How do you know that listening to music produces the same affect on our soul as listening to Quran does?
Are you saying Allah (the Exalted) and his Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) have contradicted themselves by ordering us to read Quran in a melodious voice and at the same time forbidding musical instruments? If yes then to you be your religion and to me mine...
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*Originally posted by Saif-ul-Islam: *
How do you know that listening to music produces the same affect on our soul as listening to Quran does?
Are you saying Allah (the Exalted) and his Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) have contradicted themselves by ordering us to read Quran in a melodious voice and at the same time forbidding musical instruments? If yes then to you be your religion and to me mine...
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Don't put words in my mouth. I simply said that music isn't haraam since it is clearly used in religious recitation. It really isn't to difficult to understand. When did I say Allah has contradicted himself and that listening to music produces the same affect on my soul as listening to the Quran does? I simply said that the recitation of the Holy Quran musically (which it is) is simply beautiful.
I’m not the one who decides what is forbidden and what is not and I don’t know the reasons why Allah has allowed something and forbidden another thing or allowed it at one time and disallowed it at another, I’m not a scholar (or a Mullah as you like to call them) I’m just another gunahgaar Muslim. I just accept the Lord's orders as perfect.
Like I've said before we’re not arguing on common ground therefore this argument is going to go no where because you decide what is wrong and what is right based on what you think and how some dictionary shareef defines something and I base my views on what the Quran and Sunnah say.