i’ve been called that a few times already on gupistan especially during islamic discussions on religion forum or with some guppies/guppans … i pity them and their mentality 
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*Originally posted by masoom_se_ladki: *
well i dont know......that depends if it is or it is not
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How can melodies be bad, when the Holy Quran and the Azaan is recited in a melodic fashion?
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*Originally posted by Fret Wizard: *
How can melodies be bad, when the Holy Quran and the Azaan is recited in a melodic fashion?
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it's the instruments that are haram.
u can say naats hamds without muzic that's fine but instruments can not be used and singing about a girl that u like and stuff like that is phorhibited even if there is no musical instruments involved.
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*Originally posted by PakCanada: *
it's the instruments that are haram.
u can say naats hamds without muzic that's fine but instruments can not be used and singing about a girl that u like and stuff like that is phorhibited even if there is no musical instruments involved.
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A voice is an instrument as well. It's NO different.
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*Originally posted by Fret Wizard: *
A voice is an instrument as well. It's NO different.
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a voice is not a man made instrument. it was given to man from ALLAH to use.
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*Originally posted by PakCanada: *
a voice is not a man made instrument. it was given to man from ALLAH to use.
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Yes, but you see, a voice can create melody, just as an instrument can, so there is no difference. Melodies are man made, whether it's done by a voice or another instrument.
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*Originally posted by Fret Wizard: *
Yes, but you see, a voice can create melody, just as an instrument can, so there is no difference. Melodies are man made, whether it's done by a voice or another instrument.
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bruv as i said it's given to us by ALLAH. and instruments that man makes are not given to us by ALLAH.
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*Originally posted by PakCanada: *
bruv as i said it's given to us by ALLAH. and instruments that man makes are not given to us by ALLAH.
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But melodies aren't given to us by Allah either. Melodies are man made, so how is it ok to recite the Quran in a melodic fashion and not ok to create a similar melody on another instrument. Music is everhwere, even in nature.
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*Originally posted by Fret Wizard: *
But melodies aren't given to us by Allah either. Melodies are man made, so how is it ok to recite the Quran in a melodic fashion and not ok to create a similar melody on another instrument. Music is everhwere, even in nature.
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yes it is in nature and that's where it should stay. Music has been proven haram and we can't do anything about it ALLAh's will passed down through the prophet to the sahabas and then the imam's and now us. it is not halaal and a sin that we all choose to do as I said b4.
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*Originally posted by PakCanada: *
yes it is in nature and that's where it should stay. Music has been proven haram and we can't do anything about it ALLAh's will passed down through the prophet to the sahabas and then the imam's and now us. it is not halaal and a sin that we all choose to do as I said b4.
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Then if music has been proven haraam, why do muslims recite the Quran and Azaan in a musical fashion when they don't have to? If music is haraam, why has Allah created it in nature, and given us humans the ability to create music with our natural instruments?
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*Originally posted by Fret Wizard: *
Then if music has been proven haraam, why do muslims recite the Quran and Azaan in a musical fashion when they don't have to? If music is haraam, why has Allah created it in nature, and given us humans the ability to create music with our natural instruments?
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we donot recite quran and Azaan in musical fashion astaghfiallah but rather in a sweet melodic form which was how da prophet recited it.
and the ability part well ALLAh has given every human a brain and a heart has he not? he has given u sense and feelijngs has he not? well then why would ALLAh have pig wjhich is haraam meat going around why would there be alcahol why is there war and other evil in the world. ALLAh has given us choices the right way or the wrong its up to us to choose the one we want just like that there is music ALLAh has forbiden it in the fashion that it is used today and it is upto us to follow or not follow ALLAh's will and face the consiquences. same goes for alcahol and all other forbiden things in ISLAM.
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*Originally posted by PakCanada: *
we donot recite quran and Azaan in musical fashion astaghfiallah but rather in a sweet melodic form which was how da prophet recited it.
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Huh? What do you think melody is? Melody = Music, and therefore the Quran and Azaan is recited in a musical fashion.
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*Originally posted by Fret Wizard: *
Huh? What do you think melody is? Melody = Music, and therefore the Quran and Azaan is recited in a musical fashion.
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melody as u know it is considered music it is not word of ALLAh to say it is music it is a sweet manner and polite tone.
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*Originally posted by PakCanada: *
melody as u know it is considered music it is not word of ALLAh to say it is music it is a sweet manner and polite tone.
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That makes no sense. "sweet manner and polite tone" can be melodic as well, which in turn is music. To deny that the Azaan and recitation of the HOly Quran is not musical is simply absurd.
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*Originally posted by Fret Wizard: *
That makes no sense. "sweet manner and polite tone" can be melodic as well, which in turn is music. To deny that the Azaan and recitation of the HOly Quran is not musical is simply absurd.
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yaar the term melody is considered music in ur mind but is it word of ALLAH? where in quran or hadiths does it say melody is music. it is a christian thought u got there. it has no assosiation with music in islam
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*Originally posted by PakCanada: *
yaar the term melody is considered music in ur mind but is it word of ALLAH? where in quran or hadiths does it say melody is music. it is a christian thought u got there. it has no assosiation with music in islam
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Huh?? Are you saying Melody doesn't equal music? Then tell me, what is the definition of melody?
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*Originally posted by Fret Wizard: *
Huh?? Are you saying Melody doesn't equal music? Then tell me, what is the definition of melody?
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I just told u it means speaking or reciting in a certain manner
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*Originally posted by PakCanada: *
I just told u it means speaking or reciting in a certain manner
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from www.dictionary.com
mel·o·dy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ml-d)
n. pl. mel·o·dies
1) A pleasing succession or arrangement of sounds.
2) Musical quality: the melody of verse.
3) The leading part or the air in a composition with accompaniment.
4) A poem suitable for setting to music or singing
5) Music.
a)A rhythmically organized sequence of single tones so related to one another as to make up a particular phrase or idea.
b)Structure with respect to the arrangement of single notes in succession.
c)The leading part or the air in a composition with accompaniment.
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*Originally posted by Fret Wizard: *
from www.dictionary.com
mel·o·dy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ml-d)
n. pl. mel·o·dies
1) A pleasing succession or arrangement of sounds.
2) Musical quality: the melody of verse.
3) The leading part or the air in a composition with accompaniment.
4) A poem suitable for setting to music or singing
5) Music.
a)A rhythmically organized sequence of single tones so related to one another as to make up a particular phrase or idea.
b)Structure with respect to the arrangement of single notes in succession.
c)The leading part or the air in a composition with accompaniment.
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BROTHER no point in arguing ur point over and over again it is will of ALLAh. u go ahead and listen to music jsut like me but jsut remember it is haraam. and if u are bothered by reading quran in a melodic "musical" manner than read it in a different tone.