Music in Islam (merged)

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Qaradawi can hardly be qualified as a muslim, let alone a sheikh. Some of the fatawa he’s given out lately literally takes him out of the fold of Islam.

Do a search and you’d know.

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Exactly.

My final point on this is the following verse from the Quran:

***“Verily, those who disbelieve, it is the same to them whether you (O Muhammad Peace be upon him ) warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe.”

***[Qur’an 02:06]

:closed:

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s’one?

check up with s’one again ask him/her if it is halal “as per holy Quran”

I guess all the following reasons are “personal opinion” not "as per holy Quran(or hadith for that matter) ". Implicitly applying that both the devince sources are mute on the subject.

Since, “it is an attractive medium” we can use it to spread the good messages as well. The effect is off set, why worry then?

Dear, the concept is to worship Allah (swt). Keep one thing in mind if you work all day to earn “hallal” you are actually worshiping Allah (swt) and doing what he asked you to do. That is earning you good deeds. So if let say singing/music was “hallal” and s’one spends day and night to earn halal he should be praised and not demoralised.

I’ve found internet as a wonderful medium to learn about islam and other subject, it is an excellent medium to spread the word of Allah (swt). I’ve known people who have learned few basic things about islam online and coverted. : ), “s’one” (with whome you have consulted earlier) would not call this convertor a kafir will he/she?

Atleast that is not my reason of raising voice against is not what you ahve mentioned above. I believe that is enough to negate the fact you have presented.

Again this is a personal thinking about music. There are many other things which you are ignoring.

dear it is not as simple as you have made it. Plus i can show you many people who dislike music. Merely becuase it is forbidden in Islam.

It is a public forum and not a dictatorship. You dont want to dissucss your ideas, why share them in the first place?

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Fine. Let’s apply that to eating. Eating takes away 20 minutes of my entire day, which can be spent praising Allah. Haraam?

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Have you not read the Supplications and Duas before eating? While Eating? While drinking in between eating? While finishing? and after you’re done eating?

You’ve just remembered Allah swt more than I would remember him in 1/2 hour.

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so am i or am i not allowed to listen to Beethoven's 9th symphony?

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Out of the fold of Islam according to what scholars - Pakistani “mullahs”? I am sorry, but I have seen far too many of those who barely understood arabic, let alone Quranic texts.

How do you explain away the following hadith:

‘Aishah narrated that when a woman was married to an Ansari man, the Prophet(peace be on him) said, " ‘Aishah, did they have any entertainment? The Ansarare fond of entertainment.’’ (Reported by al-Bukhari.)

Ibn 'Abbas said, " 'Aishah gave a girl relative of hers in marriage to a man of theAnsar. The Prophet (peace be on him) came and asked, ‘Did you send a singeralong with her?’ ‘No,’ said 'Aishah. The Messenger of Allah (peace be on him) then said, The Ansar are a people who love poetry. You should have sent along someone who would sing, 'Here we come, to you we come, greet us as we greet you.’ " (Reported by Ibn Majah.) 'Aishah narrated that during the days of Mina, on the day of 'Eid al-Adha, twogirls were with her, singing and playing on a hand drum. The Prophet (peacebe on him) was present, listening to them with his head under a shawl. Abu Bakr then entered and scolded the girls. The Prophet (peace be on him), uncovering his face, told him, "Let them be, Abu Bakr. These are the days of 'Eid." (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim.)

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I think just music without words or if with words....good sensible words may be considered OK!. There is hardly any consensus on music being wrong by itself.
Same goes with Art, painting and sensible photography IMHO.

The problem is that when music comes then many other useless and harmful activities become usual. Words/ wrong thoughts with music cannot be filtered all the time as well.

Also at times the music or words get 'stuck' to the mind and I am sure many have experienced that during preparation of exams etc. music becomes a hinderance to focusing the thoughts. Even during prayers the thoughts get disrupted. So too much music is not good.

I do like listening to for example Faiz, Iqbal, Ghalib etc. Reading it is good but with music the meaning gets enhanced. It gives another dimension to logical and intellectual thinking.

But if someone does not agree with it and wants to stick to their belief what's islamic or whats not, then we must let them follow it. No hard feelings from either way.

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No worries, i think ur allowed to breathe whilst praising Allah!

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Certainly all this doesn’t matter to the hindumuslims of Pakistan! :rolleyes:

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I did not make that statement in context to the issue at hand.

Secondly, I do not subscribe to pakistani mullahs.

Lastly, “out of the fold of Islam, according to the Quran.”

(i have to leave in a bit, will provide evidence to support my claim later tonight inshallah.)

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Fine. Let’s apply it to sleeping then. I sleep 7 hours a day, when I could be instead praising Allah. Haraam?

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No. Haraam.

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So defying logic is what it comes down to? No need to try so hard to oppose the Deen and Justify ur stand on totally unlogical claims.

Allahumma bismika Ahmutu wahya.

Read it before you sleep.

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In Ramadhan even sleep is worship, not sure about other months.

But thinking about Allah is also worship.

I have heard that Ayatollah Sistani had said “Permissible to you is the music which puts you to sleep and those whiich keep you awake is not permissible.”

Just my 2 cents.

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Sleep is worship!

Btw, since it is not an iraqi / irani forum, sistani is not really a good source here.. :p

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It’s termed “illogical”. And the claim was perfectly logical bhaijan, in response to which I hear illogical arguments like “sleep is worship”! Come on.

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If music is haraam in Islam, I don't see the logic in it either. Music is everywhere, even in Islam. The recital of the Holy Quran is very musical, the Azaan is very musical. The birds singing in the morning is musical. What is music? It's the arrangement of sounds and melodies. One can consider talking, or the sounds of footsteps, or the daily sounds of the city as music as well. People hear different things in their heads, and everyone has a different viewpoint as to what music is to them.

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Sharaabi,

This is the problem…ALLL Ulema now days can be described as such, and far too many accuse each other of the same.

Qaradawi is not bad, those Saudi Ulema are the ones with half a brain who think thinking is Haraam.

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What do you all think of those new "Muslim pop" groups out there who sing verses/phrases from the Quran, accompanied by pop music of course?

I am talking about groups like 786 singing Labaik in acapella while dancing on stage. O.k., it wasn't dancing, but I wouldn't be surprised if one of them broke out into the running man. I have to say, it was extremely weird and I was a bit offended.

Some things are sacred, like the Quran, and you shouldn't be singing or dancing to it.

Yeah, I went off topic. :)