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That post does not answer the question.
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do you use harp,guitar or tablah while doing Adhan?
How many time do you do Adhan?
How many Time do you listen to Adhan?
How much time do you give to your music?
How much do you spend in reading or reciting Qur'an?
don't tell me any of these answers................just ask yourself.
While listening music Do you remember your God?coz you said no one can come between you and your God..................If music does'nt come between you and your God........then I'm ready to take every word of mine "Back" against Music?
I won't listen to music but I won't say anything to you against music?
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Well then stop being a judge here!
Also, I have seen alot of people carry this debate (both sides) but you have put the sorriest argument I have ever seen, its like they are coming from a 7 year old.
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No, you use your voice, which is an instrument as well.
I don’t, but I hear it everyday.
Multiple times a day.
I constantly listen to music while I’m doing things during the course of the day.
Too late.
Yes, I remember Allah constantly.
Music does not come between me and my belief in Allah. So I guess you can start taking your words back. Who are you to make assumptions on what I believe, and how I believe? Just because I’m a musician, you automatically assume that I don’t give time to Islam.
I truly think your childish attitude is a bit annoying.
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remarks from a 2 year old…
So its “okay” for you to judge others but when others judge you - you get all offensive :halo:.
So far i have not heard from 1 imam that “Music” is halal…then how dare you say that it is.
ps: hareem01 nice replies. :k:
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^ Kid, when did I judge him? Go back to cafe please, thats where you belong. I can dare say that, why dont you do something about it, little KID! Ill blow my flute in your ears, if that helps.
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Music is not a form of 'genius'.
Coming from Mr. Beethoven himself lol
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Yeah really. One must be truly ignorant in the highest form to say that music is not a form of genious. I’d like to see him acheive a fraction of what Beethoven acheived in his life.
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I would like to know why the Arabic word for Music, is not mentioned in the Quran (refering to the verses above). Why only in the parenthesis (inserted by the translator)?
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Do you know what it was that was presented as a gift to Prophet Daud (pbuh) from Allah, as mentioned in the Quran?
4:163 We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him: we sent inspiration to Abraham, Isma’il, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and solomon, and to David We gave the Psalms
17:55 And it is your Lord that knoweth best all beings that are in the heavens and on earth: We did bestow on some prophets more (and other) gifts than on others: and We gave to David (the gift of) the Psalms.
Narrated Abu Musa: "That the Prophet said to him ‘O Abu Musa! You have been given one of the musical wind-instruments of the family of David.’ (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Virtues of the Qur’an, Volume 6, Book 61, Number 568)****"
Psalm
Middle English, from Old English, from Latin psalmus, from Greek psalmos, from psallein, to play the harp. See phttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/amacr.gifl- in Indo-European Roots.]
A harp is a wind-instrument.
So, if Music is Haraam, why did Allah give such a gift to Prophet Daud (pbuh) ?:naraz:
Great way to try and end the discussion! Here are a few more verses for you:
Say, “Who prohibited the nice things God has created for His creatures, and the good provisions?” Say,“Such provisions are to be enjoyed in THIS life by those who BELIEVE. Moreover, the good provisions will be exclusively theirs on the Day of resurrection.” We thus explain the revelations for people who know." QURAN, 7:32
**Say “Do you see that which God has provided for you, you make some of it Unlawful (Haram) and some of it Lawful (Halal)?” Say “Did God allow you to do this? Or do you tell lies about God?” **
QURAN, 10:59
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Man I lost pateince on the 7 page.
Has this thing sorted out yet?
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actually there are two kinds of music:
-halal
-haram
Period.
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ok
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Also by your defination almost ALL desi music should be haram as it contains only one theme.
So you have never heard Nusrat Fateh Ali? You never heard Hindustanit classical music? You never heard Bade Ghulam Ali ya Alla Rakha ya Vilayat Khan ya Jasraj? All that music has only one theme?
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Expat, I never knew you were a senior citizen.
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Originally posted by hareem01
There can be small benefits in alcohal but the loss is great,.....................but Music ....................there is "no" small benefit in it.........................................
you can't convince me ever that music is beneficial in any way........................
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who said its not beneficial, numerous surgeons use music in their surgeries (to relax, to get rid of the huge pressure/stress they are under) which has let to a lot of successful surgeries. Hareem put aside ur ego and quit acting like a 2 yr old
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Our Ummat follows the **The Prophet Pbuh.
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WHy wasn’t alcohol banned in his time too? and a million other things? Heck why need the Prophet pbuh as an example for mankind? (Nauzubillah).
I hope you see what I mean.
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Musicmaniac
Why don't those surgeons read nimaz or pray........
provide references of those particular "successful surgeries".
How do you know I'm 2 year old:)
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Sorry to intevene, but,
How do YOU know they dont pray?
**
Music Therapy Helps Cancer Patients**
By Rebecca Oppenheim
7-31-3
Patients who have undergone bone-marrow transplants report less pain and nausea if they take part in music therapy, according to US researchers.
The therapy may also actually speed up the time it takes for the new marrow to start producing blood cells, say the scientists from the University of Rochester Medical Center.
The team looked at 42 patients, aged between 5 and 65, who were being treated for various types of cancer, including leukaemias, lymphomas and solid tumours. Half the patients received music therapy after their transplants and the rest received standard follow-up care.
The music patients met twice a week and could listen to music of their choice, play instruments themselves, write songs or simply talk about music they liked. During the sessions the patients were also encouraged to visualise a peaceful or joyful setting.
The study revealed that patients who took part in the music therapy sessions reported significantly less pain and nausea. Before the sessions, they rated their pain and nausea as ‘severe’, but after the sessions only ‘moderate’.
In addition, the new bone marrow was slower to take hold in patients who did not have music sessions Ð an average of 15.5 days compared to 13.5 days. The speed with which the patients begin producing their own white blood cells is crucial because they are vulnerable to infection.
Music is already used in some medical settings, such as mental health services and hospices for terminally ill patients, to decrease patients’ perceptions of pain and depression, and boost feelings of relaxation.
However, it is not commonly used with bone marrow patients and initially staff members turned the therapists away saying the patients were too ill.
Researcher Dr OJ Sahler said, "It’s taken a while for staff members to recognise that music therapy can be very helpful to people when they feel most distressed.
“Nurses and doctors originally thought that the patient had to be playing or singing along, but passive listening or simply the presence of the therapist providing music itself can be therapeutic,” she said.
Her colleague Dr Bryan Hunter, an associate professor of music, added, "When a programme like this is first introduced, typically we get mixed reactions. Some in the healthcare field are sceptical at first.
“But when they see the positive effects on patients, they usually change their mind,” he said.
The pilot study will appear later this year in the journal Alternative Therapies in Health and Medicine
http://www.rense.com/general39/myu.htm
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**I found this among millions of others after 15 seconds of searching.
This one is really easy.
Although maybe certian types of music with certain instruments maybe haraam, you take the extremist step to say: “Music is not beneficial” “You will never convince me”. The prophet did allow the music with duff and even encouraged its use on weddings, so your extremist strategies backfire on you since your beleif “Music can never be beneficial” conflicts with the beleifs of the prophet. Thats why you sound like 2 years old, you’re probably not because you can type, I suspest a brain-growth disorder. You need music therapy.