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Do you trust the potential candidates replacing Musharraf to help the country achieve those long term goals? All the top tier lotas out there had opportunities to rule Pakistan and they were booted out and there were reasons.
why army is so worry about them
first go and get rid of curruption within army then think about pakistan
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Look, should Pakistan continue it's experiements with so called democracy or should it prepare a furtile ground for democracy to flourish.
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every dictator say this, this is not new, thats why Pakistan is in so much bad condition
if they had leave this on people , Pakistan would have become great country
but these army generals never let Pakistan to progress , they only think how to fill their empty tanks with the money of people pakistan
how to get the land of pakistan
their main concern is never the betterment of Pakistani people , they only think about getting land
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Country is caught in a loop which starts every 5 years and ends in the same manner. While Pakistanis waste their time and money following commandments of thier idiotic political messiahs, their neighbor India turning into an economic powerhouse leaving Pakistan in its dust.
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because there army general never took over the government, they let the politions do the politics
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Just like I said, look beyond the sound bites and dig under the surface. What are their motives? Are they capable of achieving anything for the country?
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what about army generals
see are they capable of achieving anything for the country
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What are your long term goals? Do you trust the potential candidates replacing Musharraf to help the country achieve those long term goals? All the top tier lotas out there had opportunities to rule Pakistan and they were booted out and there were reasons.
Let the democratic process flourish, if military is so sincere with the 'democratic process' they should have forced a system of accountability of government and not overthrowing a democratic government (however sham democracy that be), if they have overthrown it then it is not hard to re-start the game after establishing a system ... but this game of cat and mouse has been going on for years and years now.
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Look, should Pakistan continue it's experiements with so called democracy or should it prepare a furtile ground for democracy to flourish. Country is caught in a loop which starts every 5 years and ends in the same manner. While Pakistanis waste their time and money following commandments of thier idiotic political messiahs, their neighbor India turning into an economic powerhouse leaving Pakistan in its dust.
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Talk about India only if you want to promote democracy.... military preparing a furtile ground for democracy to flourish? yeah sure, heard that before many times.
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Let the democratic process flourish, if military is so sincere with the 'democratic process' they should have forced a system of accountability of government and not overthrowing a democratic government (however sham democracy that be),
Why didn't the two "democratically" elected PM didn't facilitate the "democratic" process? Why does military have to do everything? When is the country going to grow the hell up?
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Why didn't the two "democratically" elected PM didn't facilitate the "democratic" process? Why does military have to do everything? When is the country going to grow the hell up?
When the military leave the civilians alone and let the institutions flourish and grow instead of destroying them.
Re: Musharraf will not be in office by this time next year.
Let the democratic process flourish, if military is so sincere with the 'democratic process' they should have forced a system of accountability of government and not overthrowing a democratic government (however sham democracy that be), if they have overthrown it then it is not hard to re-start the game after establishing a system ... but this game of cat and mouse has been going on for years and years now.
Talk about India only if you want to promote democracy.... military preparing a furtile ground for democracy to flourish? yeah sure, heard that before many times.
More platitudes and regurgitation of selective history.
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Why didn't the two "democratically" elected PM didn't facilitate the "democratic" process? Why does military have to do everything? When is the country going to grow the hell up?
weren't they running the show 'democratically'? weren't they elected democratically? what was so 'un-democratic'?
"Why does military have to do everything?" because they are the ones destroying development/flourishing of democracy every decade.
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interesting developments there silly billy. thanks for sharing.
as far as others, just because someone gets in the office through ballots does it mean there is democracy? , i mean by the people, for the people and of the people. it satisfies just the 'by the people" part, if we assume there is no rigging and vote fraud. the other 2 components are not quite achieved because its not of the people, but of a certain fuedal class, and defintely not for the people because I fail to see what some of these govts did. the extremist groups like sipah sahaba were not banned, hudood ordinance etc was not addressed, there was a famine of efforts "for the people."
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Yes the situations is not good and how Musharaf has handled election and the CJ matters is pathetic.
But I cannot digest how some people are talking about assassination and explosion etc! are you people so short of memory?or just foolish? Musharaf is a rare breed of a leader that Pakistan does not deserve ... atleast you people. Clearly he should find asylum and leave the country...time has come for him to leave.
But to talk about assassinating him is a very ungrateful act that cn only come from forgetting how much he has save pakistan from several dire circumstances.
And does anyone think another assassination will add glory to pakistan or simpky reconfirm the 'failed country' status?
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give me real democracy.
Please define "real democracy".
Is it based on number of votes?
Is it based on number of electoral votes?
Is it based on supreme court's decision?
And above all is it based on less than 50% people who take time from their work to go for vote to elect a leader???????????
As we know it,....... Election day is not a holiday in some so called democratic countries and voting right is not exercised or encouraged to majority of people.
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Musharaf is a rare breed of a leader that Pakistan does not deserve ... atleast you people. Clearly he should find asylum and leave the country...time has come for him to leave.
Agreed.
Hissy fits pitched by these people are suitable for children not adults. People have lost all perspective ( I doubt they ever had any to begin with).
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interesting developments there silly billy. thanks for sharing.
as far as others, just because someone gets in the office through ballots does it mean there is democracy? , i mean by the people, for the people and of the people. it satisfies just the 'by the people" part, if we assume there is no rigging and vote fraud. the other 2 components are not quite achieved because its not of the people, but of a certain fuedal class, and defintely not for the people because I fail to see what some of these govts did. the extremist groups like sipah sahaba were not banned, hudood ordinance etc
Bhaijaan
SS or LT or Hudood all depend upon what is required to rule the country. Had it been Musharraf 20 years ago in place of Zia he wud have been preaching Jihad and had been Zia now, he wud be moderately enlightened.
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It is clear the ‘deal’ Mush is looking for to save him from the enraged masses is in trouble, how Mush will be ‘re-elected’, with pressure for fair election,while still going through the judiciary crisis, and uniform issue is increasingly hard to see
Mush supporters may like to pretend everything is ok, but it is clear things will be getting worse for Mush, and his so -called allies,US, PML-Q will dump him as soon as its suits them
Benazir threatens to boycott polls if voters’ lists not ‘corrected’
Pakistan People’s Party Chairperson Benazir Bhutto on Saturday threatened to boycott the upcoming general elections if her party’s apprehensions were not removed, reported Geo TV. Addressing a ceremony in Dubai, Bhutto said more than 20 million voters had been removed from the voters’ list. She said there had been 70 million registered voters in 2002 while the number had reduced to 50 million in 2007. She questioned where the missing 20 million had gone, the channel reported. Bhutto said the elections could not be fair as, according to her, the election commissioner had told PPP delegations that he was not free to take independent decisions. She said, in the present circumstances, the PPP would have to review its decision to participate in the upcoming elections, the channel reported.
Staff report from Islamabad adds: Benazir Bhutto has also written a letter to Chief Election Commissioner Justice (r) Qazi Farooq about the reported irregularities in the electoral rolls, urging him to remove the anomalies in consultation with all political parties. A PPP delegation led by Senator Sardar Latif Khosa delivered the letter to the CEC. Bhutto said her party would like to verify the provisional electoral lists.
Online adds: The CEC assured the delegation that he would use his constitutional powers soon after the announcement of the election schedule.
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'New blood'; how to find it, where to get it?
Identify this, understand how (or if at all) possible it is, and we come back and stop at Musharraf again.
An ailing body with anaemia and a few complications has better chances of survival and returning to health with few medicines, blood enriching diets etc, but transfusing contaminated/infected blood does what we can well imagine, even to perfectly healthy body.
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by the people, for the people, of the people.
The legal community is the only community in Pakistan to have a regular system of elections, which with a few unfortunate exceptions has been recognised by everyone. So you should be a firm supporter of the present protest movement.
Also I take your point, democracy is a process not an event (elections).
