Musharraf wants to be PML[Q] head

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After all the humiliation he faced, hes ready to try and enjoy the ‘mazah’ of kursi once again. This is precisely why our country will never prosper, with these scumbugs not paving way for any new comers. The PML[Q] and some of its stalwarts lost the elections badly because of him, and now he wants to become the party leader :hehe: Musharraf has no chance of winning in any PML[Q] stronghold, if theres any left in the first place. Despite the rifts that appeared b/w the Chaudhries and Mushy on the Lal Masjid issue, the Chaudhries still supported him pretty adamently, and look at how they are being repaid :hehe:

If hes really that desperate, he should join the MQM but he knows that laaard Altaf would never allow that. In that case, he should call for Altaf’s resignation or beg Shiekh Rasheed for a spot in his new mazdoor party.

Musharraf wishes to lead PML-Q?

Monday, October 27, 2008
By our correspondent

ISLAMABAD: Former president Pervez Musharraf is said to have expressed his desire in front of his personal friends in Lahore last week to lead the PML-Q.

“But this would only be possible if the Chaudhrys of Gujrat voluntarily hand over the party leadership to him,” sources quoted Musharraf’s friends as saying.Musharraf also told his friends that if the Chaudhrys were not ready to quit, then someone from the ranks of the party should make them leave so that he could take over without much fuss.

A leader of the PML-Q Ishaq Khan Khakwani confirmed to The News from Lahore that General Musharraf told his personal friends at a party, hosted by an oil sector tycoon, that he was prepared to head the party in case Chaudhry Shaujaat and Pervez Elahi accepted him as their new president or they were forced to quit.

“I cannot share my source, who was present in the same house where this secret political game plan was discussed by Musharraf with his friends,” Khakwani said. He said Musharraf had asked his friends not to disclose his intentions.

Musharraf was reportedly told by his friends that after the failure of the Pakistan People’s Party to address the economic problems, the people were recalling the “golden days” of his rule. “Sir, this is the time to seriously think about leading the party,” a source quoted a crony of Musharraf telling him.

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Good News! I would rather have Musharraf than Gunja and Ghaddari.

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Nice news :slight_smile: … I was thinking that Musharraf would come into politics after Dec 2009, but it seems that a lot is going on behind the scene and things might happen sooner.

PMLQ and PPPP are only two Pakistani National parties and rest are all regional parties, so any future contest at National level would be between these two parties.

As for future of PMLQ, they got around 8.5 million votes, only around 2 million votes less than PPPP, a party that was riding high in last election due to murder of BB. Even 8.5 million votes are underestimate figures, as many PMLQ candidates contested election as independent, due to their disagreement with Chaudharies. Still, they kept themselves linked to the party, due to President Musharraf. There was incumbency factor too. Here are two interesting news related to the subject:

News 1: The News International: Latest News Breaking, World, Entertainment, Royal News
Beginning of the end for the Chaudhrys of Gujrat?
Saturday, October 25, 2008
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Senator Salim Saifullah, according to sources, is going to ask the Chaudhrys to step aside gracefully as put by source, “they have had a long leadership stretch and now the party needs fresh leadership” and to make it clear that even if the Chaudhrys decided to fight it out with a clear prospect of the party being divided, the challenge was there to stay. As of today, in the event of a successful challenge Ch Hamid Nasir Chattha and Salim Saifullah are favoured to become president and general secretary respectively, but it is not a foregone conclusion yet.

Meanwhile, behind the scenes another wheel within wheels has started to turn slowly; that of evaluating the ‘possibility’ of bringing in former president Musharraf in some key role five or six months down the road. No one is admitting to it yet but a lot of dos and don’ts are being discussed.

One group is of the view that after Ch Shujaat, the party does not have any national level big-ticket leader and that despite all his controversies Gen Musharraf is a nationally and internationally known leader who may have his many enemies but he also has his admirers. It is also being reasoned that bringing him on board would “create the impression of the khakis having created a standby alternative to the present power dispensation as already a lot of people believe that the only reason he enjoyed a smooth abdication and a continued exalted status is because of him enjoying the army’s support and respect”.
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News 2: The News International: Latest News Breaking, World, Entertainment, Royal News
Shujaat not to contest for PML-Q presidentship

Monday, October 27, 2008
By our correspondent

ISLAMABAD: President Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (PML-Q) Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain will not contest for the party presidentship for another term as he is completing his second stint in the office May next.

The party leadership has decided to initiate election process at different tiers within the party in 10 weeks. Meanwhile, Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain’s mother is seriously ill and undergoing treatment in Lahore. Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi, who is also her son-in-law, is attending her there while Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain is in London for eyes treatment. He is expected to return later this week.

The ailment of the widow of late Chaudhry Zahoor Elahi has stopped the make and break activities within the erstwhile ruling PML-Q. Begum late Chaudhry Zahoor Elahi is in her 90s. The aged lady has immense influence over the Chaudhry family as she opposes shaking hands with the PPP, which she believes was responsible for the assassination of her husband. In fact, she has been pursuing Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain to mend fences with Nawaz Sharif instead of embracing the PPP.

Meanwhile, sources said that Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi was contacted by the PML-Q leaders engaged in bringing a change in the party as it has been divided in six groups, which are pulling the strings into different directions. The loyalists are supporting Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi for succeeding Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain but he has not given his mind for the same, the sources said.

Sumaira Malik, former federal minister and head of PML-Q women wing, is trying to bring Pervez Musharraf as the party head. Former information and broadcasting minister Senator Muhammad Ali Durrani is supporting her wholeheartedly.

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This is wonderful news!!

To all the mushy haters please comment on the following train of thought:

By no means am I a political or economic expert but it seems to me that Pakistan was in a lot better shape when Musharaf was in power. Food prices were lower, lower middle class (and upper) were getting employment, the country was developing in many sectors, the economy was strong, foreign investment was at an all time high, etc, etc. Agreed that he made the mistake of employing emergency and/or sacking Ifthikhar Chaudry but it seems to me during his tenure a lot of good (bordering on great) things happend in Pakistan. Since the PPP has taken over the economy and country have regressed drastically. What has this 'democracy' done for the country?

I say I'd rather be ruled by a 'dictator' where the people of my country have hope than have a democracy where everyone is in fear of their livlihood.

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Zindagi sirf Musharaf, Zardari, Altaf aur Nawaz ka naam le kar jeeyo tum log.

As far as this PML[Q] is concerned, its an old joke now, and the crap finally hit the fan when the party which was all set to win 175 seats according to some najoomiz in the election could not even muster 40 seats thanks to its association with Musharraf :hehe:, and is afloat with tethered forward blocs ready to part ways. I am sure with Musharraf as the party head, the PMA[Q] would come to what is really deserves, a grand total of 0 seats, and I am sure his senility (quite aptly in line with Chaudhry Shujaat) will finally quack like a duck.

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Enough said, let me quote the smarter anil khan:

We dont want this nightmare to return:

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So what happened to Mushy..........aren't there anymore PIA Flights to Sri Lanka....:)

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I dont think he wanna come back, he want to come back he wouldnt have gone. 8 years in power is enough for any person. while he is a better than NS, Zardari personally on intelligence level and leadership. it will be nightmare for him to come back and he knows this, some paracites may ask him to venture out but he will stay out.

Izzat
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He will be OK if he doesn't turn PMLQ into his jagir and install his foreign-settled son as his co-chair.

Ideally (and I mean it), Pak army officers should have come to politics AFTER retiring or leaving the army. They could have brought fresh blood, a discipline, and gotten the THINGS DONE.

Unfortunately our experiment with Asghar Khan types wasn't that succesful. And lately the retired officers turn 180 degrees from clean shaven jawans to dhari walay babas.

Anyways if PMLQ accepts him as president, they have to live with all the baggage he will be carrying with him. Who knows if all that baggage would sink the PMLQ ship.

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Who in Pakistani politics do not have baggage? As for sinking PMLQ ship, everyone knew that person behind PMLQ was Musharraf, and still PNLQ boat did not sink, rather, PMLQ got second highest votes in last election and came out as National party along with PPPP.

Actually, many PMLQ candidates contested election as independent just because they were unsatisfied with leadership of Shujaat, but still they were with Musharraf. During Presidential election, many from opposition also voted Musharraf, showing his popularity amongst some of them too.

I think that if Musharraf would enter politics, it would be a fortune for Pakistan, and I do not see any reason why he should not. We have to get rid of mega corrupts like NS and others from Pakistani politics, and that could only happen if strong personalities enter politics. I hope that you may have seen the interview of Rahmat Shah Afridi, owner and editor of Frontier post, on corrupt politicians of Pakistan, and if not, please find and see them.

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He didn't do it when he had power, what makes you think he will be able to achieve that by being head of thug-party who will be second-fiddle most of the time.

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^ 'thug-party' are Altaf's boys no?

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he can win his seat if u fights from GHQ headquarters.

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They are thugs too, they extort money from common people, people like Chaudhary brothers, Nawaz Sharif extort money from banks in form of loans and then use their political power to get them forgiven.

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I must agree a number of things were much better under Mush thats for sure. I m not sure if I would credit Mush with all that. We dont want to boost his ego LOL.

Food prices were lower moreso because they were lower everywhere internationally a year ago - I do remember people were poiting fingers at Mush for food prices increasing without even looking at the international scenario.
Food prices will now lower now that petrol prices are falling.

Employment for young educated Pakistanis had increased - quite a lot of people were finding it easy to get good jobs in their own country and in some cases wages are that good almost equivalent to some wages in the UK - obviously not for the same job. But now theres a global downturn and obviously this will have an effect on Pakistan. I would nt go so far as saying Pakistan was booming before but it did alot better 2001-2006 as compared to before. Maybe that was a natural knock-on effect internationaly?

Had the CJ issue no thave happened im sure Mush would have still been fairly popular. That completely ruined him. He bought changes to Pakistan and probably thought the mental;ity of the people might not change but it had also changed and people protested.

I think a number of projects had happened under the Mush era - a lot of road building nationally, educational institutions increasing, maybe a few hospitals here and there....but Im sure he could have done more health and education wise. I think under Mush there was far more developoment than ever before.

But at the same time you had the after effects of the war on terror, still having to deal with the crooks masquerading as politicians, and doing anything to keep his position in power.

Im sure someone will post an article contradicting any good he did LOL

The negativity that permeates Pakistanis
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Yes, but Musharrafs croonies dont mention him, because he sold out to Zard-ari as well :hehe:

Personally, Musharraf is more suited to the MQM, as I mentioned before.

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The PML[Q] didnt even win the majority votes in the polling station of the presidential residential society or the cantonement area :hehe:

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I'm sure Nawaz Sharif would love to take on Musharraf, as he would beat him soundly, and finally jail him for his many crimes against Pakistan

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There are plenty of retired Pak Army officers who joined politics after retirement, they just werent party heads. Asghar, who by the way was not in the army, but the air force. Most of them are working for these parties you despise so much, so there goes the little theory. They are as bad as any other politician.

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then someone from the ranks of the party should make them leave so that he could take over without much fuss.
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This is the problem,he thinks the pml[q] is his baap ki jagir, that he can just take over without any fuss. If you really believe in something, you have to fight for it. Musharraf only wants it because he has tasted the joy of taking pakistan for a ride and the perks of holding a kursi.

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^^ and who hasnt taken Pakistan for ride and the perks of holding to kursi. just name and enlighten us!!