Musharraf the most unpopular leader in the world today

Thanks for showing me those enlightened thoughts which suddenly you find distorted..

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And i am not of yours facetious personality.
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No problem...I remain your big fan..

and yet you cannot stop talking about him.

Re: Musharraf the most unpopular leader in the world today

hate democracy
when a person came and start restucturing pakistan then the pakistani said he not a democtratic leader he is not came throug the election and public will
but on the other hand when some people burn ROBBERS in main market of karachi then the people said it is not good where is democracy then isn't this a general public will.

Now now robert, dont get so upset because his days are near… Also, I would like to ask you what connection his non-existent fan base has with me bashing him left and right :hehe:

Calm down, yazidi sir. Comparing musharraf with hitler is lunacy, is all I am saying. :)

I feel that maybe if he acted like a real dictator, then this mindless, extra ordinary hate against him would be justified. I didn't see people skinned alive, gassed in large chambers, intentionally starved to death, complete ban on opposition, complete suffocation of media during his tenure, complete decimation of any opposition activity or other branches of government etc in the eight years he has been our leader. :)

He obviously isn't perfect and thats for darn sure. I think it all comes down to who do I respect as a leader in retrospect. As it stands right now, I feel very little respect towards mr. sharif or mr zardari as opposed to president musharraf. thats all, friendo. :)

Reinvented bhaijan...I have no way of knowing what is actually going in your mind...I just replied to you looking at your post where you showed your strong wish that Musharraf should have hanged Nawaz Sharif...as the original post has been deleted/modified by mods you expressed your strong desire to hang Nawaz Sharif by your favourite dictator, but you know exactly what you wrote...Isn't it a barbaric wish list...

*As for the comparision between Hitler and Musharraf I think 600 families of missing persons might not share your dynamic views..
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I was just stating, yazidi bhai, that if musharraf was as bad as he is portrayed, then maybe he should have lived up to the hype atleast. I am glad he didn't hang mr sharif, as it is certainly very barbaric.

If you consider 25 million deaths as a result of Hitler's war, to be equivalent to any musharraf action, then I'd say there is no arguing with you. :) You can believe whatever you like friend. :)

You don't have to be so defensive reinvented bhaijan....You know exactly what you wrote in your original post although as usual mods have modified the original text...I was in my reply just appreciating your mentality...

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If you consider 25 million deaths as a result of Hitler's war, to be equivalent to any musharraf action, then I'd say there is no arguing with you. :) You can believe whatever you like friend. :)
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I do believe for each on of the families of these missing persons he is worse than Hitler...I am thankful to God that you and me are not one of these families...the difference is I am feeling for these families even I am not one of them...you would have felt the pain if only God forbid your own family had to go through that mental torture...you are absolutely right about there is no arguing with me as I will never be able to understand your justification...

Dear mr yazidi,

I have had personal family persecuted, tortured and murdered by official thugs, under mr. zia, mr sharif and ms bhutto's administration. Please do not tell me what I don't feel.

If you feel that (and let me fix the number) roughly 72 million people killed by hitlers war is on par with musharraf then I feel comfortable saying that you are mentally incapable of logic and reasoning. :)

I think you are lying and making these things up...if you had so many family members who suffered because of their beliefs and were not given a chance to defend themselves in a court of law...you would never be advocating such inhumane acts by a dictator...anyway I think there is no point argueing on this subject anymore...as I think both of us live on totally different planets...

Inhuman acts committed daily by talibani terrorists get so easily glossed over by some.

Yes, and there have been Shias who have been killed by official ISI thugs under Musharraf's administration as well.

Yazidi bhai, your logic supersedes dr. einstien himself. Does your brain compute at the same level as the russian national super computer as well?

Reinvented bhaijan it does not take an Einstein brain or a super computer to come to such a conclusion...now having asked for it I'll explain you step by step to show you how I came to this conslusion...

1) The argument started with your post which somewhat read like this: I really wish that Musharraf should have acted like a real dictator and hanged Nawaz Sharif just like Zia hanged Bhutto..."

2) Reading your post Mr. Saad from UAE got excited with your statement and appreciated and endorsed your post...

3) I replied both of you where I tried to show you that it was really a brutal thought and Zia's action until today is considered malafide and world considers it a murder...

4) After my post you used your tools as a moderator to edit your original post and changing it even in the quote I used in my reply without sending me a personal message... used your power as a moderator to save your reinvented knick from embarrasement in a malafide manner...editing altogether your reference to all this hanging business...infact you took a total flip flop by stating that you are actually happy that Musharraf did not hang Nawaz Sharif...taking totally an opposite stance...

5) A simple and honourable way would have been admitting that you made a mistake by posting such a barbaric thought...instead of indulging in to all this gymnastic...of editing your post even in my quotes without notifying me...and revealing your moderator knick..."

6) You not only used your tools as a moderator to edit your own post but selectively deleted Saad_UAE and my exchanges totally deleting posts where he called me a pathetic soul...without notifying me and revealing your moderator knick"....using your moderator previleges in a malalfide manner...and against the rules of the forum where moderators notify the posters when they do such things through a personal message...

7) After you had nothing logical to say on missing persons subject you simply tried to attack me by stating "don't tell me about family sufferings...my own family has suffered on several ocassion"...

8) As your actions were totally unethical throughout....misusing your moderator staus in a very questionable manner...and not taking an honourable route of admitting your mistake...I therefore concluded that I think you are lying and making up things....

Re: Musharraf the most unpopular leader in the world today

^ yazdi ali isnt a moderator, im pretty sure of that

Ravage are you sure you are not Ali...I remember one of your post a few months ago where you mistakenly replied for Ali and admitted it was a big hassle to change knicks when replying...

Anyway if Ali is not ravage...err a moderator...than surely he has magical powers to make changes like he did...

Both Ali and ravage are not mods. Ravage used to be a mod but no longer as for Ali he has never been a mod, so stop assuming. Furthermore ravage is not Ali.

Ehsan could you explain me who deleted the posts, and who edited the orignal post of AliG_reinvented even from the quote of my reply...how can a normal poster do it without having tools of a mod...

Re: Musharraf the most unpopular leader in the world today

yazdi you were thinking of my now retired alt nick: LockJaw

if you are sure the posts were edited, then a mod may have edited it, but not for the reasons you think. maybe there was something offensive that needed to be edited out.

Can you provide me with the link and are you now saying that I am lying when I say that Ali is not a mod.