Musharraf Supporters Before and After Elections

[teggy]

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No buddy! the news is not manipulated or twisted like your facts.

It is as it is. Whether you choose to believe it or not, is upto you. And this was just one of the sources reporting on it, there are others.

:)

[Mostar95]

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@TheRealDeal

An example of the massive fraud by the MQM, used to get many of their seats

**Massive fraud! - An Eyewitness Account **

Erik de Bruyn

Erik de Bruyn, leader of the left wing of the Flemish Socialist Party in Belgium has been invited by the PPP to monitor the elections in Pakistan. In particular he is monitoring the elections in the industrial belt of Karachi (NA 257) where the PPP candidate Riaz Lund is challenging the ruling extreme right wing party, the MQM. Here what his personal report on day of election.

Yes MQM did these things in their areas. But the guy who was invited by PPP should also have visited the areas of Malir and Lyari where PPP did exactly the same things.

[Sa1eem]

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No buddy! the news is not manipulated or twisted like your facts.

It is as it is. Whether you choose to believe it or not, is upto you. And this was just one of the sources reporting on it, there are others.

:)

I think that you like to stay happy with fabricated and illogical news. I have one too ... that is, recently a Chicken from Zardari house gave birth to a donkey :) Now think of it and be happy :D

[teggy]

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I think that you like to stay happy with fabricated and illogical news. I have one too ... that is, recently a Chicken from Zardari house gave birth to a donkey :) Now think of it and be happy :D

i can understand your bitterness, trust me i can and i do.

Don't worry inshaAllah Pakistan will survive even without gifted Mr. Musharraf. You just sit tight and keep crunching your numbers and nostrodamas style-prophecies, we'll be here to read them and get a good laugh.

ps: Your joke was lame, what i posted was a genuine news piece. :d

[Iconoclast]

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@ehtasab

As if you’d have voted for someone else yesterday

@Sa1eem

After giving a lot of thoughts, I think all these charges against MQM are by corrupt supporters of thug parties who are actually themselves thugs. After this election and after seeing racial and ethnic bias and hate on this and other forums, I believe that MQM stand is very right and compare to PPP and PML(N) thugs, they are Angel. From today, I join the party or not, but my vote is for them and I do not care what the thugs of other parties believe or what propaganda they do.

We knew all along that you are an MQM supporter. I wrote that 6 months ago.

[teggy]

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^Yea i remember that. He always said i don’t support MQM. lol

Oh well…

[yazdi]

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Whoever mentions May 12 should also not forget December 27. On that day both the most affected parties of May 12 ANP and PPP took their revenge by killing almost equal number of people, by burning cars and other vehicles and by sexually harrassing female workers here in Karachi.

On May 12, MQM goons killed political workers (some of them were equally armed and could not compete with better positioned rivals who were supported by silence of law enforcement agencies on that day). But on December 27 PPP and ANP goons found inncent citizen to commit their attrocities.

And that May 12 violence mainly between ANP and MQM was already looming in Karachi - arrival of the CJ was just a trigger - on the issues of demolition of kutchi abadies, removal of smoke emitting vehicles and rickshaws (which becomes an ethinic issue in Karachi only) etc.

Mostar bhai...I am not exactly aware what really/actually happened on May 12th...or what was the history behind it...but when I mentioned May 12th my perception is based on media reports...may be they were wrong...I don't know...and there is no way of knowing without an impartial judicial enquiry...

Media reported on 12th May that police and other law enforcing agencies were purposely asked to sit on the side lines...to give a chance to government sponsered thugs to play havoc with public lives...we saw that on AAJ tv live that for ten hours these thugs continued firing and police did not come to take any action...so the impression we got from those events was it was government sponsered terrorism...and when Mr. Musharraf showed his muscles publicly in Islamabad and termed the events of the day in Karachi as his show of strength...it was too much...even I used to admire the guy for a lot of things before that day...but after that day he completely lost my respect...and believe me here in Punjab it is difficult to find a single person who supports Mr. Musharraf...one of my friend who went to vote was told at the polling station..."subah di sirf do saykalaan aayaan hin......"it was clearly a vote against Musharraf...and May 12th was the beginning...

As for the events of 27th December you know very well that I was the biggest critic of the lawlessnes and events that occured....but it doesn't mean that...you can justify one wrong with an other"....the events of 12th May were wrong....the aftermath of 27th December was wrong....every act of violence against any citizen belonging to any colour, creed, and religion is wrong...and must be condemned...

[Mostar95]

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Musharraf is alone not responsible for May 12 incident - army's other people are also involved in that. That what i mean to say.

And on Dec 27, both ANP and PPP lost any moral ground they had against MQM for whatever they did with innocent people.

So May 12 = Dec 27!

It is very likely, Allah forbids, these are going to recur here in near future.

[yazdi]

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It is very likely, Allah forbids, these are going to recur here in near future.

Allah khair karey...I hope you are wrong!

[Iconoclast]

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Musharraf is alone not responsible for May 12 incident - army's other people are also involved in that. That what i mean to say.

And on Dec 27, both ANP and PPP lost any moral ground they had against MQM for whatever they did with innocent people.

So May 12 = Dec 27!

It is very likely, Allah forbids, these are going to recur here in near future.

Dec 27 was in no way like May 12. Loss of life on May 12 was out of comparison to dec 27. And ANP was not involved in Dec 27. Another difference in May 12 and Dec 27 is that May 12 was planned and executed by party leadership, Dec 27 was spontaneous rioting.

[Mostar95]

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Dec 27 was in no way like May 12. Loss of life on May 12 was out of comparison to dec 27. And ANP was not involved in Dec 27. Another difference in May 12 and Dec 27 is that May 12 was planned and executed by party leadership, Dec 27 was spontaneous rioting.

If you do not know the facts, then do no speak. ANP was looking for the opportunity and they found it on Dec 27.

[yazdi]

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So May 12 = Dec 27!

.

Mostar I don't agree with you...for me..

12th May=wrong..

27th Dec=wrong..

12th may+27th Dec=two wrongs...

[Iconoclast]

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If you do not know the facts, then do no speak. ANP was looking for the opportunity and they found it on Dec 27.

May be you can provide some links to back what you say.

[Mostar95]

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For that you have to come to Karachi and meet the affected people.

[Mostar95]

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Mostar I don't agree with you...for me..

12th May=wrong..

27th Dec=wrong..

12th may+20th Dec=two wrongs...

Yes that's right. And innocent people will continue to become prey for that.

[Ali_R]

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It is a futile exercise to dispute MQM's support in Karachi. Yes Altaf has murder cases against him, yes MQM thugs have terrorized Karachiites, yet a majority of Karachi population still thinks they are better for them than what others have to offer. This is a fact that Pakistanis have to accept. MQM's vistory is no different from what happens in the rest of Pakistan. Poors all year round complain about the atrocities of the waderas and choudhries yet every election we see the same people coming back to the assemblies.

It is sad to see that Pakistanis who claim MQM to be ethinc and talk about national unity are always the ones draqgging mohajirs into an ethinic debate. Who are we to tell anyone who to vote for?

Sir, there is a slight confusion in your analysis..we saw a different behaviour of voters when corruption cases were exposed pre-99'. Be It PPP or PML-N. The very first time in Pak history we saw on screen slaughter being practised by MQM thugs. We saw these terrorists waving their flags infront of geo tvs camera men. Now have you noticed a decline of votes for the MQM?
On the contrary they won 2 more seats!

Now I conclude from the above:
Either these voters share no love for the other ethnic groups and back government sponsored terror. Or rigging has taken place in areas were MQM had some influence.

[Lusi]

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Mushy's supporters before election = dheat and baysharam
Mushy's supporters after election = dheat and baysharam to the power n+1

[Mostar95]

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The very first time in Pak history we saw on screen slaughter being practised by MQM thugs. We saw these terrorists waving their flags infront of geo tvs camera men. Now have you noticed a decline of votes for the MQM?

May 12 neutralized by Dec 27!

[Lusi]

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May 12 neutralized by Dec 27!

How can killing of one group of innocents neutralize the killing of another group of innocents?

Monstar, mind elaborating your statement? I don't quite get what exact connection you are trying to make.

[Mostar95]

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Simple revenge.