Musharraf Supporters Before and After Elections

Before Elections:

President is the most popular leader after Quad-e-Azam.
Silent majority supports Musharraf.
People care about economic development and not about uniform or judges.

After Elctions:

People are stupid. There shud never be elctions in this country.
Musharraf is great for holding free and fair elections.
People have short memories, they forgot how corrupt Zaradi and Nawaz are. (While they expect people to remember the corruption of BB and Nawaz 8 years ago and forget about May 12 that happened few monthjs ago.)

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^^^

I think May 12th was the biggest turning point....when Musharraf showed his true face and openly aligned himself with MQM...which is seen as a violent party by rest of Pakistanis...his popularity graph nose dived from over 50% to less than 15%...it was seen as a display of sheer arrogance while people were bleeding on Karachi streets...it was a very insensitive display of vulgarity...

If he would have apologized to the nation on that stupidity....admitted his mistake than and there only...and remained a law abiding Pesident...instead of becoming a bullying monster...a person who liked to crush his opponents with sheer force...he would have not seen this day...

I think too much power us kay sar par charh gayee thi...

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when Musharraf showed his true face and openly aligned himself with MQM.../quote]

Why has he been allowed to stay in power by our army after seeing his 'true face" on May 12?

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^Ask that those who voodo him to make decisions. I think the main forces are beyond Pak borders. Do you agree?

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Because many Generals made many billions with Musharraf

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Well put. The people have spoken, and have largely defeated Mush’s attempted rigging.

Civil society has spoken! Go Mushharaf! GO! :jhanda:

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Then do not spread ethnic bias here!

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For others millat farooshi, why to blame an ethnic group?

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That's where he lost the support of army also in real sense...and they facilitated his downfall by refusing to become a party to his grand rigging plan...

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Ethnic bias? Supporting crack down on MQM terrorists doesnt make me bias. Or have you failed to acknowledge the fact that a very narrow, blunt thin black line now seperates the MQM terrorists from the Taliban (without arguing on the political motives)?

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your theory does not hold water. PMLQ lost because Musharraf supported MQM.
However if you notice, MQM won, better than ever.

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If zardari aligns with musharraf, then musharraf supporters will be back(ironically it looks like musharraf conducted elections in a fair manner). ANd if they indeed align, then i don't think it is a good thing again for democracy

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My theory concludes only clarification on people blaming me of being biased, when I talk bad reject MQM thugs. Isliye I care when elections are rigged at certain places.

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How can you deny the fact that MQM enjoys enormous support in Karachi. How many elections does it take for you to realize this fact? How many records need to be broken?

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An example of the massive fraud by the MQM, used to get many of their seats

**Massive fraud! - An Eyewitness Account **

Erik de Bruyn

Erik de Bruyn, leader of the left wing of the Flemish Socialist Party in Belgium has been invited by the PPP to monitor the elections in Pakistan. In particular he is monitoring the elections in the industrial belt of Karachi (NA 257) where the PPP candidate Riaz Lund is challenging the ruling extreme right wing party, the MQM. Here what his personal report on day of election.

Yesterday started with hope, as you can see from my earlier report. But what I saw yesterday made me realise that this Election Day was just the beginning of a very long struggle of liberation of the people of Pakistan. Yesterday I visited some twenty ‘sensitive’ polling stations. All of them are in an area dominated by the MQM, the party in power in Karachi and the Sindh Province and the local pillar of the Musharraf regime.

When I say ‘dominated’ you have to take this quite literally. In theory all parties have the right to send scrutineers to the polling stations. In this area I saw only twenty percent of stations with PPP scrutineers. Other opposition parties were not even to be seen. How is this possible? The scrutineers present are incredibly courageous people. They suffer ill treatment, are sometimes abducted and often even killed by the parties in power. A collaborator of an independent NGO told me that yesterday official figures indicated that 15 scrutineers of the PPP were assassinated in the whole country. Most of the 27 people killed yesterday were scrutineers at polling stations, quite apart from the abductions, torture, etc. Last night two PPP women activists in Karachi were still missing. We tried to compensate for the absence of a sufficient number of PPP scrutineers by organising a kind of flying picket in this ‘sensitive zone’.
The forms with the electoral results being changed or filled in at the central counting office of the NA-257 district, where the data should only be collected and counted.

The absence of PPP scrutineers was not the only thing I saw: some polling stations were decorated as headquarters of the MQM. Election forms which had already been filled in (pro-MQM of course) were strewn around the tables ready to get stamped by the officials, identification papers of people who are not on the electoral rolls (in other words people who do not exist), suitcases filled with election forms which were either not sealed or badly sealed. Some of the cases of fraud were solved by our presence and intervention. Some 900 MQM votes have been declared null and void as a result of these irregularities.

However, the worst was yet to come. In the evening I went to the central counting office of the NA 257 district. What I saw and photographed there defies everything imaginable. Stacks of bags full of election forms were broken open. Forms were being filled in or changed in the corridors of the court hall. Other original forms were thrown away. Thanks to our pressure and the presence of the local media, a local president of the polling station was arrested and taken away. But will it surprise you to learn that the PPP candidate Riaz Lund, who in the evening was winning with 15,000 votes in 50 out of the 198 polling stations, has officially lost the election?

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Who do you think will win the election if not MQM. Who do you think is the most popular party in Karachi if not MQM? Why do you think only 2-3 % vote were casted, when MQM boycotted the election in early 90s.

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They have support, that is not in doubt, but the large number of seats they 'won' yesterday are a direct result of using state resources in a thuggish manner to conduct their fraud, that is not in doubt either

MQM will not be part of Sindh or Pak govt, no matter the rigging, no matter how much you support them

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Did MQM win anything outside of Sindh's urban centers? They have strangle hold on Karachi and Hyderabad & got exactly same number of seats they did they got last time around.

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OK. so whats the problem then. why the outcry?

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  1. MQM has been rigging since years.
  2. MQM winning seats doesnt change my mindset in believing them to be anything but fair, balanced and a democratic party.
  3. MQM has AH as their king, terrorists on board and is ethnic biased. Get rid off these elements and Ill vote for them next time.