Alright, so PPP is being run like a family enterprise, fine if ppl will find that so repulsive, they won't vote for it.
Mush on the other hand was not elected by the people in 99, 2002 or 2007.
not in 99 but in 2002 and 2007 he did .... u call it rigged elections or whatever you wana say. There will always be one (or more) out there calling elections rigged !
btw by your definition of democracy, Mush was democratically elected in 99 too as outragious number of people supported his coupe and I bet most of you also supported him that time ...
Alright, so PPP is being run like a family enterprise, fine if ppl will find that so repulsive, they won't vote for it.
Mush on the other hand was not elected by the people in 99, 2002 or 2007.
Zardari is an obvoisous liability for the PPP... If the people dont want them, they wont vote for them and Zardari will have to scramble back into the shadows once again, the party will make sure of it...
not in 99 but in 2002 and 2007 he did .... u call it rigged elections or whatever you wana say. There will always be one (or more) out there calling elections rigged !
btw by your definition of democracy, Mush was democratically elected in 99 too as outragious number of people supported his coupe and I bet most of you also supported him that time ...
THE WORLD calls them rigged elections... Now if outragious number of people supported his coup, now there are outragious number of people who want him to leave... So if your respected the "outragious" numbers who supported him then, then respect the outragious number that no longer support him, and tell Mush to step down now!
You need to go look up the term DEMOCRACY... :HEHE:
Accoriding to surveys, over 60 percent want mush to step down, do you respect Democracy enough to understand that the majority dont want this dictator anymore?
.....And Mush isnt president anyways, since he was never recognized by the Supreme Court...
You need to get your facts straight. He was not only recognized by SC (and that to be beloved CJ Ifti) but furthermore, Ifti gave mush the authority to amend the constitution which he did not even asked for.
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Hacha? Is that a will based democracy?!?! LOL, you and Aalsi have single handedly created brand new category of Democracy..
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Just tell me Yes or No: Do you think PPP is a democratic party after choosing their leaders by "will" ?
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Let me give you some insight... Pak people will decide if they want Zardari or they dont... Not you..A democracy itself produces leader, it produces stability, it produces concensus...
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Wrong again, by definition of democracy, PPP (and 60%-70%) of other parties should not be on the ballot paper as these are not democratic political parties. Why ask people to choose from 2 wrongs ?
Well, at that time I was quite apathetic, I just thought oh wow first the excitement over the Bomb and now this. :aq: . And we don’t know if overwhelming majority supported his coup. We don;t know that. But even if we assume that for fun, today if not for the past few years, over whelming majority wants this Yenta to go…just leave!
wasnt obl more popular than mushy or any other political leader in an earlier poll? f'n'f elections in places like mardan, waziristan, swat etc will only result in daisy cutters flying over isb, lhr and karachi. And this isnt fear mongering but the reality on ground. But hey if thats what ppl want, the why not.
You need to go look up the term DEMOCRACY... :HEHE:
Accoriding to surveys, over 60 percent want mush to step down, do you respect Democracy enough to understand that the majority dont want this dictator anymore?
Do you think USA and UK are democratic countries? i.e. as per your definition of democracy?
You need to get your facts straight. He was not only recognized by SC (and that to be beloved CJ Ifti) but furthermore, Ifti gave mush the authority to amend the constitution which he did not even asked for.
Just tell me Yes or No: Do you think PPP is a democratic party after choosing their leaders by "will" ?
Wrong again, by definition of democracy, PPP (and 60%-70%) of other parties should not be on the ballot paper as these are not democratic political parties. Why ask people to choose from 2 wrongs ?
Mush wasnt recognized by the standing Supreme Court, he ordered an emergency, which was illegal... He wasnt president so hadnt the authority to do so...
So since he wasnt recognized by the standing Supreme COURT, he cant be the president!
Mush cant amend anything unless he is president... BUT MUSH WASNT PRESIDENT!
The PPP and all other parties will have to fix themselves.. But whats important is that we allow them to evolve and we allow the public to decide whether they should be in power...
They will change on their own if they realize they need to...
LOL... By the defintion of Democracy, the people have a right to choose their leaders, whatever the composition of the parties themselves...
Do you think USA and UK are democratic countries? i.e. as per your definition of democracy?
USA and UK have free and fair elections... The elections are over seen by an independant Election commision, and nominees have the free and unbiased supreme court to rely on incase some fault develops...
Pakistan neither has free or fair elections, an independant election commision, or a freee and unbias supreme court (since Mush say to it that there is no supreme court to stand in his way)>..
USA and UK have free and fair elections... The elections are over seen by an independant Election commision, and nominees have the free and unbiased supreme court to rely on incase some fault develops...
Pakistan neither has free or fair elections, an independant election commision, or a freee and unbias supreme court (since Mush say to it that there is no supreme court to stand in his way)>..
So again, your putting your foot in your mouth.
No I am not ...... let me explain it to you
As per YOUR definition of democracy overwhelming majority of people voted against Bush and Tony in "polls" ....they should have resigned right ? as you just said Mush should go coz overwhelming majority is against him in the polls ?
As per YOUR definition of democracy overwhelming majority of people voted against Bush and Tony in "polls" ....they should have resigned right ? as you just said Mush should go coz overwhelming majority is against him in the polls ?
First of all, Bush and Tony didnt impose coups. Secondly, did they get less than 20% of the country's polls? Stop comparing democracies with dictatorships. I didnt know Mushtardation could cause hallucinations!
First of all, Bush and Tony didnt impose coups. Secondly, did they get less than 20% of the country's polls? Stop comparing democracies with dictatorships. I didnt know Mushtardation could cause hallucinations!
well public polls was only brought up by one of the will-based-democracy supporter .... :)
But there is the Supreme court you see… In democracy, the Supreme Court is the final verdict…
In Mush land, supreme court has no validity and if there is rigging, there is no recourse!
See the difference? Democratic instituions exist to smoothe out the wrinkles within the system…
Pakistan, not being a democracy, such insitutions were never allowed to exist…
If the Supreme Court of Pakistan is independant, then they can decide who is the ultimate winner upon ordering an investigation…
Besides, who are YOU to say US and UK are flawed?!?!? Please!
