Musharraf is not a dictator

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First of all let me say that if these 2 were the only 2 choices to compare then in general mush seems to have done a bit better for pakistan than ns. Now, how much of it is his own accomps vs due to post 9/11 etc can only be conjectured but not ruled out.

That said, the way the pm-ns things have gone down 8 yrs ago and now is nothing less than absolute and total rape of pakistan by both these guys and their supporters (in coming to this conclusion I will only go by published info and not other covert info):

  1. Why did mush deploy to kargil without mandate?

  2. Why did ns refuse landing right for a paki citizen on a commercial flt, that too top army man?

  3. Why did mush circumvent process and first jail, then make a 3 party deal involving saudies?

  4. Why did ns then break the deal?

  5. Why did mush in spite of specific supreme court ruling, re-deport ns?

It is a chain of events. Do you blame the guy who hit first or the guy who hit back first?

If it were children fighting I'll blame the one that hit first. But these two have had their fight not a candy or pencil but the very fate, prode and lives of a country and its people.

As a result the religiouso (including taleban al qaeda etc) have emerged as decisive forces and have set the fate pakistani people by yet another 30 years backwards.

So I don't care whether ns made more mistakes or mush made more. Both have made enough major fups and both have to go. And I don't even care how.

These 2 are not important. There are more pressing issues. Such as saving yet another generation of youth from getting radicalized by the religiouso. Otherwise expect a pakistan that brings together the worst of palestine and iraq.

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Oh bhanchoo, in chicago??

Phir to ifti naseem ka barra tota action dekha hoga devon pe? :faizy: :smiley:

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Exactly, this “ruling elite” keeps fighting like kids and plays with nations fate/lives in the process.

:k: I would prefer NS taken to court, his crimes proved and rot in jail for life rather than live luxurious life and no accountability for his crimes against army/nation. And as for Mushy, I would prefer his accountability as well instead of “aur jahaz hawaa mai patt gya” (in GIK-late words)

Add to that, public is getting against army, even army/para-military is getting divided (last few episodes of para-military/military getting abducted with no shot fired).

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Not that am trying to support NS here. But a few things need some consideration.

  1. Before all this episode, we could notice differences b/w NS & Chaudry (sp?) family. Something was going on. I don't see this family taking political risk at that time without outside support i.e. agencies/army. So something was already going on b/w Chaudrys & Mush.
    Ofcourse I don't know what happened but it seems that Mush had already planned to takeover before he made that trip (was Srilanka?).
    And ofcourse the govt smelled it and they tried to take an action on urgent basis. Only a part of this landing drama seems to be true, not all.

  2. that was the time when US govt was desperately looking for ways to send their army in this region (it was before 9/11). No matter what, a civilian Pakistani govt can only go so far. US needed military in power in Pakistan. They needed to get rid of NS. (they would have done the same with Benazir too).

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London kiyun chora?? Ifti naseem kee shairi sata rahi thee? :D

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They needed to get rid of NS. (they would have done the same with Benazir too).
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Do you think NS and BB had "balls" to resist the US?

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^^ So, do you live by devon then?

Man, that area is soo empty from what I heard from my devon regulars.

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How can Musharaf be a dictator? What has he done which is worse than the civilian governments of past :D

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^ CHup!? We are talking about devon and ifti naseem here… :mad: :hoonh:

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Also, why is one civilian political leader after another queuing up to make a deal with this "dictator"? Toba, toba! :D

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because all (political leaders & Busharraf) are corrupt :p

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oh please. how are you able to digest that lie? c'mon every time Durrani says something it is a lie. the man is a custom made lier, a bull**** producer. how do you digest that bull****?
nawaz knew he was charged for crimes. and when he was coming he knew what would happen if he stayed in the country. so he would not have chosen to come had he not wanted to face those charges.
further, even if that is true Musharraf has still committed another illegal act of abetting a criminal in escaping the hands of law.