Musharraf is not a dictator

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Junta’s BS propaganda exposed. I believe Lord Nazir over any of Mushrraf chamchas.

http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\09\12\story_12-9-2007_pg7_11

Lord Nazir tells Supreme Court Nawaz forced into exile

ISLAMABAD: British parliamentarian Lord Nazir Ahmad, who accompanied exiled former prime minister Nawaz Sharif on his homecoming after eight years of exile, on Tuesday submitted a ‘statement of facts’ to the Supreme Court claiming that the former prime minister was forced back into exile against his will.

Nazir, who claimed that he had negotiated with the authorities at Islamabad airport on behalf of Nawaz Sharif, in his statement, said that the former prime minister had at no stage during the whole saga consented to go with the law enforcement officers who were shoving him towards the front of the VIP lounge and pushing him towards the tarmac.

Nazir later told reporters at the SC that he as a member of the British House of Lords was disappointed to see how the Pakistani authorities had refused to obey the court order and sent the former prime minister into exile. “The exercise was nothing but the abduction of Nawaz Sharif,” he said.

He refuted some ministers’ claim that Nawaz Sharif had opted for exile instead of facing jail, saying the former prime minister did not give anything in writing and rather, had insisted on staying in Pakistan.

Shahbaz Sharif’s son Hamza Shahbaz who was also present on the occasion, seconded the claim, saying that Nawaz Sharif was exiled to Saudi Arabia against his will and even without his passport. He said that the Sharif family would fight a legal battle against Nawaz’s deportation in the court and would win.

Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz MNA Khawaja Asif said that Nawaz was ‘abducted’ to promote the interests of General Pervez Musharraf. He said that his party would also file a First Information Report on the abduction and subversion of the constitution in this regard.

He said that Nawaz Sharif was in his own house in Jeddah, the party was in contact with him, and that under Saudi law Nawaz Sharif could partake in politics during his stay in the kingdom. staff report

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So Lord Nazir can speak in Pakistan's internal matters and broker for Nawaz Sharif...!? Why is it so bad if the Saudis merely remind Mian saab of his agreement signed with them by himself...?

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:hehe: LORD Nazir has a nerve to lecture us about democracy. He was appointed to the un-elected second chamber of the English parliament by none other than Tony Balir, and whereever he goes he keeps on reminding people he is a “Lord”. Egotistical Hypocrite.

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well NS exile was obvious from the first day.
thing that interests me more is wat gonna happen after BB’s reelection n how she gonna keep up with her promises/ deals :cb:. this time she will be on ar-par situation :cb:

p.s. ppl this is politics not a book of ethics.

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Lord Nazir though a British, but he is atleast Pakistani national to speak about Paksitan matters. you cant compare this with Saudis. Many of us in GS fall in this category when commenting on such issues.

its Sharifs themselves who got invloved Saudi at the first place, they knew Pakistani govt cant hardly deny any demand from Saudis!

First its was may be good for Pakistan to get rid of these loosers who cant wait to come back to loot again. but it was not on legel terms at all. we should admit.

Secondly, if he came back again, he should be allowed and face the music of his cases. same goes for BB. but again BB is smart to avoid jail always, she only come to Pakistan when she can govern only.

Musharraf has done good for Pakistan, he hasnt done many legally or morally right things.

recently he is negotiating with other looser BB. what respect he can earn out of it when himself branded both as thugs!

definitely Musharraf is a dictator, though a liberal one that has allowed courts to function, media to prosper and question them which no democractic leader has allowed in past.

but when it comes to "Kursi" he is no different to other lot, do anything to hang on to it.

He can easily get elected, drop his uniform without PPP or BB.
but then one question come to mind, why should we have a ex army president?

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Why is Lord Nazir talking about Pakistan's internal issues?

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why are we talking about PK issues here. Most of us don't reside in Pakistan. and most of us are citizens of US etc.
Is there no difference between another country's govt & Pakistanis living abroad?

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Hereditary peers??

So this house of lords is like the US senate right? Who appoints these people? I think US senate in the past [and in a horrible disaster] can have its senators chosen by the state legislatures. There was talk about the house of reps and how there is no mechanism, except elections, if all them went kaboom.

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^^ And all the time I though this lord nazeer was elected based on the mirpuri hoopla I heard about him..

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So wait??? You don’t live in UK anymore? :konfused:

I didn’t see any coverage of his visit to chicago in desi papers. maybe i’ll check the recent ones…

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Lord Nazir is of Pakistani descent, no? Saudis didn't just "remind" Mian of his agreement, they probably forced Pakistani government/Busharraf to let him go with some "accord".

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Lord Nazir said the following as well:

"What would one say if the Saudi or Afghan governments honoured the martyrs of the September 11 attacks on the United States?"

Does he believe 9/11 killers were martyrs?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/06/22/wrushdie322.xml

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:)

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Of course Lord Nazir is of Pakistani origin, but he's an active British politician first when he's using his political weight to be of significance in matters such as Sharif's landing at Isl. Not very fitting esp when compared to Saudis he wasn't involved in the 'agreement' either.

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If Lord Nazir cant speak about Pakistani internal affairs, than what about Altaf Hussian? He is a foreign national (terrorist) hiding in foreign country, and running Terror Inc in Karachi. I'm sure you have objection that too, or do you?

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The US senators used to be elected by the stat legislatures. Now they're directly elected by the people (2 from each state 100 in total) for 6 years terms. The British lords (none hereditary once) are appointed by the queen.

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*Musharraf is not a dictator *

Well thats a lie, a white lie.

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Can you also please dig out what he said about King of Swaziland? What about Pharaohs? :hmmm: Also let me know what he said about China wall? thank you so much for letting us know, this information was very critical for this thread :k:

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I don't think Lord Nazir jumped in middle of mud pool uninvited.

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I hope you also read the posts :)