existance of these shia books, is these books exist? if so, where are these books and what status in islam.
Mushaf Fatima (Book of Fatima),
Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr (The Parchment)
existance of these shia books, is these books exist? if so, where are these books and what status in islam.
Mushaf Fatima (Book of Fatima),
Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr (The Parchment)
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
Mushaf Fatima was a book having traditions recorded by Fatima Zahra [sa] and once can say that it was a family book, passed on to their generations, thus, you no need to be bothered on this.
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
Mushaf Fatima was a book having traditions recorded by Fatima Zahra [sa] and once can say that it was a family book, passed on to their generations, thus, you no need to be bothered on this.
for your inforamation there are 2000 hadith in al-kafi regarding these books and you said that "no need to bothered on this".
quite amazing.
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
There could be, but what you have to do with Mushaf Fatima? If I today write a dairy for myself and for my progeny today, can you have any right tommorow to talk over that dairy?
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
you may find more information about this subject on famous shia web site.
hubeali . com
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
Did I ask you to 'enlighten' me about the topic by telling me any website?
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
Brother if you just do translation of what is highlighted in Red, it will SUFFICE...
where it is said by Imam Sadiq (AS) " it is Quran... " according to Arabic version " IT IS MUSHFA..."
Since it is not Quran so if (this book) contains three times or four times of Quran, does it matter?
The Actual Translation as per arabic version : " Abu Basir quoting al-Imam al-Sadiq(A.S.) as saying: The Mushaf of Fatima(A.S.) is with us and how do they know what her Mushaf is.
I asked: What is the Mushaf of Fatima (A.S.)? He replied: It is a Mushaf in which exists three times as much as in the Qur'an. I swear to Allah, there is not a single letter of the Qur'an in it."
Conclusion is left to you
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
Sallam
How unfair is this that a Muslim accusing other Muslim of infidelity. The sole purpose of this thread is to show that Shia don’t believe in this Quran, whereas anyone can check the copy of Quran in their hoses and mosques (not a big deal)
As far a genuine question regarding the true nature of Mushaf-e-Fatimah (AS) and Jafar –e- Jam' iah, it is a worth inquiry.
(I am not be the right person to comment on it, but as far I know)
According to the shia doctrine of Imamat and Wilayat, shia imams are designated by Allah (SWT) and introduced by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH&HP) far the continuous guidance of mankind according to the latest agenda (Shairah). Earth is never void of a pious Wali of Allah (SWT). In this regard Imam has a great responsibility bestowed upon by Allah (SWT) and it conspicuous the divine abilities of the Imam ( as shia believe that Imam is infallible, receives guidance from Allah (SWT), has greatest amount of knowledge elm-e-Ludani ( esp. knowedge given by Allah (SWT) etc ) and in this regard Mushaf-e- Fatimah or Jafar –e- Jami'ah contains special guidance given by Allah (SWT) regarding events that will happen in future and responsibilities of the future etc but in no way it is equivalent or part of Quran or an extra part of Quran. And this is the Divine Book that is been taught for centuries to (shia) children, recited daily in shia homes and mosques, scholars have written comprehensive books on the Divine nature of this book (a number of books related to the refutation of allegations regarding alteration in Quran) etc. and still it is voiced that Shia don’t believe in this Quran ( the one that is in our hands) ….
Lexically, the Arabic word Mushaf can mean a book, collection of pages, a volume or a collection of writings. Sahifah means a page or, in modern Arabic, a newspaper. The plural is suhuf. Thus, in The Qur’an (87:18,19) Allah SWT refers to“ Inna hadha lafi Ssuhufil oola, Suhufi Ibrahima wa Musa” (This is the Scrolls/Scriptures of yore. the Scriptures of Ibrahim AS and Musa ).The word Mushaf, then, does not necessarily mean The Qur’an. It can be applied to any book.
NOTE :- And as far some of the quotations from Kafi, then it should be clear that this book is based on the theme of collection of Ahadith in order to preserve what so ever is available, shia scholars never qualified this book as Sahih ( as it is the case with Sahih Sitta). If any narration concerning the alteration of Quran is present in if and is used by some prominent shia scholar in order to show the invalidity of Quran then it is worth mentioning.
Well I do have a number of references from sunni books to counter this aggression but why should I indulge in this polemic? Regardless of what is written in historical records I know my sunni brothers firmly believe in this sacred text.
A sunni scholar (of sub-continent origin) Hafiz Muhammad Aslam author of "Tareekh-e-Quran" writes on page no. 62 to 67 under the handing of " Shia and Quran " (after quoting a number of view points of shia scholars) says :
"These are the standpoint of those shia scholars who are most notable amongst the community, and their sayings cant be misunderstood (since they are very much clear) and neither this is the case that they said it due to Taqiyya since some of them has written books against ahl-e-sunnah, and Abu Jafar Qumi's book Al-Ah'taqad and Mullah Mohsin's book Tafseer-e-Safi, are part of the curricula and no one can think of it that they are teaching their standpoint of their religion"
Likewise I can quote Moulana Abu Muhammad Abd ul Haq and other scholars but, will it suffice? Those who have disease in their hearts will never accept it, even in Quran Allah (SWT) says about Kuffar (those who denied Prophet Muhammad) that they knew him as they know their own sons but even then they denied him….
Alas! How much spectacular it would had been, if you quoted shia scholars sayings and research regarding Quran AL Hakeem and I would had quoted sunni scholars…
Regards
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
The most important, oldest and the most reliable book of creed and fiqh (jurisprudence) for jafri shias is Al-Kafi (compiled by Koleni, died in 329 hijri). The part of this book dealing with ‘aqeedah (creed) is known as Usul Kafi and the part related to fiqh (jurisprudence) is called Furu’ Kafi.
We find numerous traditions about Tahreef in Quran in Usul Kafi. In this book there have been put chapters especially on Tahreef in Quran and the effect of such traditions is that the last eminent muhaddith (hadith scholar) of jafri shi’ites, Nuri Tabrasi, in his book Faslul Khitab fee Tahreef Kitab Rabbul Arbab, has not only mentioned 2000 traditions and hadiths of shias over Tahreef in Quran but also stated clearly that all early eminent shia scholars (high ups) except four believe in Tahreef in Quran.
It has also been stated in this book that these four rejectors of Tampering in Quran cannot prove their views using principles of shi’ism.
(In other words their views are based on Taqiyyah so that shias can use their cover at the time of need, saying our these 4 ‘ulama don’t believe in Tahreef in Quran and we also don’t believe in such ‘aqeedah.)
This is not only our claim that (the four) shia ‘ulama who reject tahreef in Quran, do it as Taqiyyah but this fact has been admitted by the famous shia scholar and student of Mulla Baqar Majlisi, Ne’matullah Jazayeri who writes in his book Anwarun Nu’maniyah:
Those who have rejected (‘aqeedah of) Tahreef in Quran (i.e. Shaykh Sudooq, Shareef Murtadha, Tusi and mufassir Tabrasi) have done so due to many considerations (expediency) (i.e. due to taqiyyah to fool sunnis) because they have accommodated such hadiths and traditions in their books in a big number which claim that Quran has undergone tampering and that the so and so verse was revealed this way but later on it was tampered.
(Anwarun Nu’maniyah, printed in Tabrez, 1389 hijri, volume 2, page 257)
Muhaddith Nuri Tabrasi
The importance of muhaddith Nuri Tabrasi one can imagine by the following fact:
Jafri fiqh is based on these 4 books:
The collection of all narrations from these books is named as Wasayel-ash-shia which was compiled by Hur ‘Amili.
To this most comprehensive book of shia-hadiths, Nuri Tabrasi has appended a supplement in many volumes with the name of Mustadrak al-wasayel and thus he has perfected shias’ traditions/narrations. On this memorable work of him, he was buried after death near to the presumed shrine of Hadhrat ‘Ali radhiyAllahu 'anhu in Najaf, where his grave is the pilgrim centre for everyone.
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
These scholars of jafri shias who believe in Tahreef of Quran, openly admit it saying
We have numerous traditions/narrations concerning tahreef.
These narrations of us clearly imply tahreef in Quran.
We belief in tahreef of Quran due to these very narrations.
The expert in shialogy, Maulana Abdush Shakoor Lakhnavi who was the first to introduce this book of Shaykh Nuri Tabrasi in the subcontinent, writes in his book Tambihal-Hayerin under the heading of Three Admissions of shia-scholars which was in response to the booklet of his contemporary shia mujtahid, ‘Ali Hayeri Lahori, the booklet was Mau’izah Tahreef Quran:
Many hadiths which are authentic and imply the shortfall and loss in the present Quran, other than those hadiths which have been described in the course of prior arguments and imply that this Quran is less than the amount of descent (nuzool) and this shortfall is not specific to some verse or chapter and these hadiths are diffused in such different books in which our religion confides and to whom the followers of our religion refer. I have compiled all those hadiths I came across.
After this he has named numerous books and piled the narrations over tahreef.
Saiyid Muhammad Jazayeri has written in the book Anwar which means the people of Imamiyah have agreed on the accuracy (authenticity) of these advantageous (mustafeedha) and continued (mutawatir) narrations which clearly imply the Quran being tampered (changed), this tampering is with Quran as well as with parts and with a’rab (vowel points) and Imamians have agreed on the attestation of these narrations.
It should be known that hadiths on tahreef (of Quran) have been transmitted from those books in which our fellows trust in order to establish commands of shari’ah and to transmit traditions of Nabawiyah.
To me the narrations about tahreef in Quran are really mutawatir (continued), if these narrations are abandoned, it would discredit all our art of hadith, even that according to my knowledge, the narrations about tahreef in Quran are not less than those of the issue of Imamat, therefore if the narrations of Tahreef in Quran are not trusted, the creed of Imamat as well can’t be proven through narrations.
The meaning of all these narrations as well as the hadiths which have been transmitted with the sanad of Ahl-al-Bayt, is that the Quran which is with us is not exactly as it was descent on Muhammad sallAllahu ‘alayhe wasallam but in it something is opposite to what Allah descent and there are some changes and tampering and certainly much of its content has been removed for example the name of (Imam) ‘Ali from many places, in addition to this it is known from these narrations that the order of this Quran (arrangement of verses and chapters) is not as was agreed by God and His Messenger. This all is agreed upon by ‘Ali bin Ibrahim Qummi.
Ayatullah fil ‘aalameen i.e. Molvi Dildaar ‘Ali says, after quoting some hadiths over Tahreef (in Quran) transmitted from the leaders of creation (i.e. Imams of Ahl-al-Bayt):
The conclusion of these narrations is that there was certainly a tampering (tahreef) in this Quran which is before us, with respect to an addition of some letters (huroof) and a loss of some letters even some words and with respect to the order. In this way after believing in these narrations, there cannot be any doubt in the tampering of Quran. (after this Molvi Dildaar ‘Ali has mentioned forms of tampering which we would see later, inshaAllah)
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
as we all aware that sahaba ra collected quran in hz. abu bakar ra era whereas al-kafi claim if some one claim that he collected quran is lier, so, as per al-kafi all muslim are lier.
Chapter 35 (PART TWO) AL-KAFI
No one collect all of the Holy Quran except the Imams (a.s.) and that they have the knowledge of all of the Holy Quran
H 607, Ch. 35, h 1
Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from ibn Mahbub from ‘Amr ibn abu al-Miqdam from Jabir who has said that he heard abu Ja‘far (a.s.) say the following. "No one from the people has claimed to have collected the whole of the Holy Quran (in a book form) as it was revealed. If anyone would come up with such a claim, he is liar. No one collected this Holy Book and memorized as Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High
revealed it except Ali ibn abu Talib (a.s.) and the Imams after him."
H 608, Ch. 35, h 2
Muhammad ibn al-Husayn has narrated from Muhammad ibn al-Hassan from Muhammad ibn Sinan from ‘Ammar ibn Marwan from al-Munakhkhal from Jabir from abu Ja‘far (a.s.) who has said the following. "No one is able to claim that with him is the whole of the Holy Quran; its apparent and hidden essence, except the executors of the will of the Holy Prophet (s.a.).
H 609, Ch. 35, h 3
Ali ibn Muhammad and Muhammad ibn al-Hassan have narrated from Sahl ibn Ziyad from al-Qasim ibn al-Rabi‘ from ‘Ubayd ibn ‘Abdallah ibn abu Hashim al-Sayrafi from ‘Amr ibn Mus‘ab from Salma ibn Muhriz who has said that he heard abu Ja‘far (a.s.) say the following. "Of the knowledge that we have received is the interpretation of the Holy Quran and its laws, the knowledge of the changes of time and the happenings therein. When Allah wants good for
a people, He makes them to understand. If He would make to understand one who does not want to understand such a person turns away as if he has heard nothing. The Imams (a.s.) paused, briefly, then said, "Had we found keepers and trusted people for our knowledge, we would have said it (all to him). Allah is the best supporter."
H 610, Ch. 35, h 4
Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Muhammad ibn al-Husayn from Muhammad ibn 'Isa from abu ‘Abdallah al-Mu‘min from ‘Abd al-A‘la Mawla ’Ala Sam who has said that he heard abu ‘Abdallah (a.s.) say the following. "I swear by Allah that I know the Holy Quran from the beginning to end as if it is in the palm of my hand. In it there is the news of the heavens and the earth, the news of what has been and the new of what will come into being.
Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, has said, "In it there is the explanation of all things." (16:89)
H 611, Ch. 35, h 5
Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn abu Zahir from al-Khashshab from Ali ibn Hass’an from ‘Abd al-Rahman ibn Kathir from abu ‘Abdallah (a.s.) who recited the following verse. "The one who had knowledge from the Book said, "I can bring it to you before you even blink your eye. . . ." (27:40). The narrator has said that the Imams (a.s.) opend his two fingers and placed them on his chest and then said, "With us, I swear by Allah,
is the knowledge of the whole of the Book."
H 612, Ch. 35, h 6
Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father and Muhammad ibn Yahya from Muhammad ibn al-Hassan from those he mentioned, both of them from ibn abu ‘Umayr from ibn ’Udhayna from Burayd ibn Mu‘awiya who has said that he asked abu Ja‘far (a.s.) about the meaning of the following verse. ". . . Say, ‘God and those who have the knowledge of the Book are sufficient witness (to my prophet-hood).’" (13:43) The Imam (a.s.) said, "It is a reference to us. Ali (a.s.) is the first among us and the most virtuous and the best among us after the Holy Prophet (s.a.)"
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
Brother if you just do translation of what is highlighted in Red, it will SUFFICE...
where it is said by Imam Sadiq (AS) " it is Quran... " according to Arabic version " IT IS MUSHFA..."
Since it is not Quran so if (this book) contains three times or four times of Quran, does it matter?
The Actual Translation as per arabic version : " Abu Basir quoting al-Imam al-Sadiq(A.S.) as saying: The Mushaf of Fatima(A.S.) is with us and how do they know what her Mushaf is. I asked: What is the Mushaf of Fatima (A.S.)? He replied: It is a Mushaf in which exists three times as much as in the Qur'an. I swear to Allah, there is not a single letter of the Qur'an in it."
Conclusion is left to you
you changed your authentic books, if you do not have actual saying of hz. jaffer-e-saddiq rah allow me to provide correct text of his rah saying.
I asked: What is the Mushaf of Fatima (A.S.)? He replied: It is a Mushaf in which exists three times as much as in the Qur'an. I swear to Allah, there is not a single letter of the your Qur'an in it."
you missed word "your".
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
you changed your authentic books, if you do not have actual saying of hz. jaffer-e-saddiq rah allow me to provide correct text of his rah saying.
I asked: What is the Mushaf of Fatima (A.S.)? He replied: It is a Mushaf in which exists three times as much as in the Qur'an. I swear to Allah, there is not a single letter of the your Qur'an in it."
you missed word "your".
Whatever is the case, the bottom line is that Mushaf Fatima was a book for Ahlulbayt [as], we do not have to worry about its content.
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
Whatever is the case, the bottom line is that Mushaf Fatima was a book for Ahlulbayt [as], we do not have to worry about its content.
what utter nonsence, did you say that current quran is not quran of hz. jaffer-e-saddiq rah, quran is for ever muslim and hz. jaffer-e-saddiq was muslim.
as per your al-kafi jaffer-e-saddiq rah said your quran it proofs that shai did not beliefs of current quran why did not he rah said our quran.
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
^ You really are pretty thick. are'nt ya?
In your previous post you claimed you were a shia. Did you or your family have a different quran then?
If yes, then am sure everybody on this forum love to see some scan pages of that quran proving your claims.
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
^ You really are pretty thick. are'nt ya?
In your previous post you claimed you were a shia. Did you or your family have a different quran then?
If yes, then am sure everybody on this forum love to see some scan pages of that quran proving your claims.
but i aware most of shia beliefs that quran was altered, some of classical scholers of shia do beliefs on such, in Pakistan ppls called khoja do beliefs that there are 40 paras of quran and ten para were eaten by hz. ayesha ra goat.
one thing more i have produced authentic books which acertain that shai beliefs on tareef-e-quran, one group called akhbari also beliefs on such belief.
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
Precisely the question was "existence of these shia books is these books exist? if so, where are these books and what status in Islam.
Mushaf Fatima (Book of Fatima),
Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr (The Parchment)"
Until now it is clear that these books do exist, since they are not meant for public so no need to poke one's nose into it and these are not parallel to the existence of Quran Al Hakeem this is their status in Islam (not in wahabi Islam).
Moreover, as far this tradition is concerned distinction is already made between "Quran" and "Mushaf" (though Quran in its literal terms is also a Mushaf (a witten book) but in order to avoid confusion Imam (AS) didn’t use this term alternatively).
In short, "Mushaf Fatima (AS)" is not Quran Al Hakeem. Hence, this thread logically ends here.
As far as the impression that Imam (AS) pointed towards some other "Quran" is completely void. Since, Mushaf is not Quran, anyways, and therefore indicated in the narration separately. And it clearly indicated that you only have got the "Quran" in its textual form, its Zahair and Ba'tin (exoteric and esoteric) factual are with us in the form of Mushaf and Jamia'.
If it were said, we have QURAN (rather Mushaf) that is thrice the size of yours, then one could brag on it, but it is not the case. Therefore word "your" should not hinder anyone, rather those about whom Allah says in Quran Al-Hakeem, they had disease in their hearts and Allah has engorged it… Diseased hearts are not submissive to the truth when it is revealed to them.
As far as the Ulema-e-Muqademeen and contemporary scholars are concerned just name a few, Allama Syed Murtaza (RA), Allama Shaikh Tusi (RA), Allama Tibrasi (RA), Allama Hamid Hussain (RA), Allama Balaghi (RA), Allama Haieri (RA), Allama Khoi (RA), Allama Ali Naqi (of sub-continent origin) (RA)… .
[FONT="]The completeness of Quran is so indisputable among Shia that the greatest scholar of Shia in Hadith, Abu Jafar Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn al-Husain Ibn Babwayh, known as "Shaykh Saduq" (309/919-381/991), wrote:[FONT="] [FONT="]"Our belief is that the Quran which Allah revealed to His Prophet Muhammad is (the same as) the one between the two covers (daffatayn). And it is the one which is in the hands of the people, and is not greater in extent than that. The number of surahs as generally accepted is one hundred and fourteen ...And he, who asserts that we say that it is greater in extent than that, is a liar."[FONT="] [FONT="]Shi'i reference: Shi'ite Creed (al-I'tiqadat al-Imamiyyah), by Shaykh Saduq, English version, p77. [FONT="] [FONT="]And its theme is taken from Imam Ali (AS) and it is said that "anything present between the two covers (daffatayn), it is Allah's (sacred) book" (Nahjul Balagha), likewise Imam Sadiq (AS) instructs that recite Quran as it is recited by other Muslims (Muqadma of Tafsir Safi), etc.
[FONT="]It should be noted that Shaykh Saduq (RA) is the greatest scholar of Hadith among the Imami Shia and was given the name of Shaykh al-Muhaddithin (i.e., the most eminent of the scholars of Hadith).
[FONT="]Another prominent Shia scholar is Allama Muhammad Ridha Mudhaffar who wrote in his Shia Creed book that:[FONT="] [FONT="]"We believe that the Holy Quran is revealed by Allah through the Holy Prophet of Islam dealing with every thing which is necessary for the guidance of mankind. It is an everlasting miracle of the Holy Prophet the like of which can not be produced by human mind. It excels in its eloquence, clarity, truth and knowledge. This Divine Book has not been tampered with by any one. This Holy Book which we recite today is the same Holy Quran which was revealed to the Holy Prophet. Any one who claims it to be otherwise is an evil-doer, a mere sophist, or else he is sadly mistaken. All of those who have this line of thinking have gone astray as Allah in Quran said: "Falsehood can not reach the Quran from any direction (41:42)"[FONT="] [FONT="]Shi'i reference: The Beliefs of Shi'ite School, by Muhammad Ridha Mudhaffar, English version, pp 50-51[FONT="]It clearly states if anyone states otherwise may be an evil-doer, obfuscator, or is badly mistaken about the Book of Allah (SWT), and if few scholars states otherwise then it is not considered the doctrine of a entire madhab specially when it is contrary to the Ijma of scholars. And any such tradition or narration present in a hadith book doesn’t qualify it to be utterly authentic to rely on. Yes, such traditions are present in shia hadith books as well as sunni hadith books one can read Al-Etaqan and Dare Mansur by Allama Sauyti where these matters of Tahrif (alteration) are discussed at large but we know in totality sunni madhab rejects this doctrine. Therefore, if it is asked, do Shiites believe in the authenticity, validity and divinity of the Quran, the one we have between two covers and present in every mosque and home? Then every shia will assertively replies; YES.
Assalam un Alykum Manitaba Al Huda
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
as far as the akhbari thing is concerned one should be aware of this fact that how were they tackled (with evidence, even some public debates took place in this regard), and what were the endurances of our scholars back then, these days you may find them scattered, and you attribute the so-called doctrine of Tahrif (as you said akhbari have/had it) to the entire nation who stood against them, and generation and generation of scholars... moreover, akhbari and usooli is more of a difference like muqalid and ghair-muqlid... .
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
so, you mean what shia scholer says about quran are from akhbari sect, did you dis-belief on your book al-kafi.
Re: Mushaf Fatima, Al-Jamia, and Al-Jafr did exist.
[FONT=Century Gothic]we have quoted verbatim the exact texts of only those books which are at our disposal. As for those books which we do not possess, we have sufficed with the meanings alone. These quotes were mainly taken from Ahsan al fataawa, Khumaini aur ithna ashra and Irshad as Shia and other reliable kitabs. Some were also taken from the sites of reliable Ulama on the internet.)
و من قول الامامية كلها قديما و حديثا ان القران مبدل زيد فيه ما ليس منه و نقص منه كثير وبدل كثير (الفصل 2-187(
[FONT=Century Gothic](In every era all the Imamiyyas believed that the Quraan has been changed; added to it was not of it, much has been increased and decreased.))(Al-Fasl 2/187)
[FONT=Century Gothic]لو شرحت لك كل ما اسقط و حرف و بدل مما يجري هذا المجري لطال و ظهر ما تحظر التقية اظهاره من مناقب الأولياء ومثالب الأعداء!!!)الاحتجاج للطبرسي، ص 378،دار النعمان للطباعة والنشر – النجف(
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[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic]((If I were to explain to you all that has been obliterated, distorted and changed, there will be much length, and such things will became apparent which taqiyyah forbids to make apparent.))(Ihtijaj Tabary 378, Dar an Numan, An Najf)
[FONT=Century Gothic]ان الاصحاب قد اطبقوا علي صحة الاخبار المستفيضة بل المتواترة الدالة بصريحها علي وقوع التحريف في القران (فصل الخطاب 31 مخطوط(
[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic]((Verily all our companions agree on the authenticity of those ‘mustafeedh’ infact ‘mutwatir’ narrations which denotes emphatically on the interpolation of the Quraan))(Fasl al khitaab 31 Makhtut)
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[FONT=Century Gothic]عن ابي عبد الله قال ان القران جاء به جبريل عليه السلام الي محمد صلي الله عليه و سلم 17000 أية (اصول كافي 671 طبع لكهنؤ(
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[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic]((Abu Abdullah said: “Verily the original Quran which Jibraeel (A.S) brought to Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) contained 17000 verses))(Usool al kafi 671, Lucknow)
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[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic]The present Quran contains 6236 verses. Therefore the implication of the above mentioned statement is that two thirds of the original Quran is missing.
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[FONT=Century Gothic]ان القران لا يكون حجة الا بقيم(الكافي ج1 ص 169، دار الكتب الإسلامية، طهران( **
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[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic]((Verily the Quran cannot be a proof except with a ‘Qayyim’ Imam))(Al Kaafy 1/169, Dar al kutub al Islamiyyah, Tehran )
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[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic]Their books suggest that there are more than two thousand (concocted shia) narrations which denotes upon distortion of the Quran.
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[FONT=Century Gothic]… و هي كثيرة جدا حتي قال السيد نعمةالله الجزائري ان الاخبار الدالة علي ذالك تزيد علي الفي حديث (فصل الخطاب 251 مخطوط(**
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[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic]((… And (the verses which were distorted) are quite a large number, that As sayyid Nimatullah Al Jazaa’iri remarked: “Verily the narrations which denotes upon (the distortion) exceeds two thousand reports”)) (Fasl al khitaab 251, Makhtut)
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[FONT=Century Gothic]Refer to Usool kafi 260-275. Numerous verses are cited, which according to Shias, has been altered. A full version of this book in Arabic could be found on the following link ÇáÍÏíË ÇáäÈæí ÇáÔÑíÝ](http://www.14masom.com/hdeath_sh/) .
[FONT=Century Gothic]In fact the entire kitab ‘fasl al khitaab’ was written only to proof the distortions of the Quran. The ‘makhtut’ (original manuscript) which is in our possession contains close to 400 pages. A perusal of this magnum opus can leave no doubt in ones mind that the Shia religion fundamentally maintains the theory of alterations in the Quran, which is , also, supported by thousands of sayings of the Innocent Imams. (Below we have discussed this books authority)
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[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic]Here follows just two examples from Fasl al khitaab which Shias believe to be omitted from our Quran.
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[FONT=Century Gothic]Image of Tabrassi book, ‘FASL AL KHITAAB’
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[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic](The following is an image of ‘Surah Wilaayah’ which Allama Noori Tabresi, the Shi’i authority mentions in this book, Faslul Khitab. This book has been written in Persian and was printed several times in Iran. This chapter (Surat-ul-Wilaayah) was also quoted by the famous orientalist, Noeldeke in his book ‘History of the Copies of the Qur’an’. He reproduced it on the authority of another famous book of the Shias, ‘Dabistaan e Madhahib’. A great Jurist of Egypt, Muhammad Ali Saudi, found a manuscript of this Surah in Iran by the well known orientalist, Mr Brown. It also appeared in the Asian-French Newspaper in 1842 C.E)
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[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic]Surah Al Wilayat 7 verses
[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic]Saintly (Patron) Chapter
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[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic]In the name of the Allah, the most gracious, the most merciful
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[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic]1 Oh you who believe, Bring faith in the prophet and the wali (patron) (Ali Bin Abi Talib), both of whom we sent, they will guide you to the straith path.
2 A prophets and a patron “belonging to” each other, and I am the all knowing, the all aware.
3 Verily those who fulfill God’s covenant for them are comforting paradises.
4 And those upon whom if our verse are read, they disbelieve.
5 For them there is an enormous place in hell,
6 when it is proclaimed on the day of judgement: “Where are the oppressers, the rejecters of the messengers?
7 The messengers didn’t leave them except with the truth, and Allah will not permit them to be successful till a short time.
8 And hymn the praises of your lord whilst thanking him, and verily Ali from the witnesses.
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[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic]"Oh you who believe, believe in the two lights.
He has revealed them unto you, warning you against the torture of the Great Day – two lights emanating from one another, for I am the All-Hearing and the All-Knowing.
Truly those who fulfill Allah’s pledge and his Apostle’s verses shall be rewarded with Paradise.
Those who disbelieve by breaking their covenant and what they have pledged to do before the Apostle shall be thrown into hell, for they did injustice to themselves and disobeyed the supporter of the Apostle.
Therefore, they shall be caused to drink from the Hamim River in hell.
Truly Allah is the light of heaven and the earth as he wills, and he has chosen his angels and apostles and made believers of those whom he created.
All do whatever he wills. There is no god but him – the Merciful and the Compassionate.
Those who came before them cheated their apostles, and so I have stricken them with my cunningness vehemently and painfully.
O Apostle! Preach my admonition, for they shall know.
Those who fulfill their pledge to you are likened to me to be rewarded by Paradise.
Truly Ali is one of the pious. We have sent Moses and Aaron, being appointed his successor, yet they disobeyed Aaron.
Be of good patience! They will become old. We have given you judgment, just as we did to other apostles before you. We have appointed a guardian to you from them, that they might return.
Truly Ali is devout, lying prostrate at night, warning as regards the Last Day, and hoping for the mercy of his Lord.
Say: “Should those who act unjustly be treated equally, while they know my torture?”
(Mohammad Azat Darwaza, Al-Qur’an al-Majid, page 60 and
Mohammed Ahmed Maal Allah, Al Shia wa Tahreef Al Quran).
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[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic]Also documented in :
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[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic]Theodor Nöldeke: Geschichte des Qorans
Zweite Auflage, völlig umgearbeitet von Friedrich Schwally
Zweiter Teil: Die Sammlung des Qorans, Leipzig
(Dieterich’sche Verlagsbuchhandlung) 1919, Seiten 102-103.
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[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic]The image of Surah Wilaayat has been taken from
[FONT=Century Gothic]Surah al-Nurayn & Surah al-Wilayah: Their Authenticity & Literary Style[FONT=Century Gothic]
[FONT=Century Gothic]and the image and translation of Surah Nurain was taken from
[FONT=Century Gothic]The Challenge - Surat al-Nurain[FONT=Century Gothic]
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[FONT=Century Gothic][FONT=Century Gothic](Surah Nurain is on page 181/182 of the ‘makhtut’ of Fasl al khitaab. It differs slightly with the above version, having few additions and subtractions.)
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[FONT=Century Gothic]Status of ‘FASL AL KHITAAB’
[FONT=Century Gothic]We have found numerous Shia kitabs and websites of claims that they disown the book ‘Fasl al khitaab.’ However, this is all based on taqiyyah. Sheikh Mohiuddeen writes: “Although the Shias pretended to disown At-Tabrasi’s book, as an act of taqiyyah, the glaring fact that it includes hundreds of quotations from the recognized works of their scholars clearly confirms their adherence to the tenet of alteration in the Qur’an. Of course, they do not want a clamor to be raised over this perverse article of faith of theirs.” (Al Khutut al areedha)
[FONT=Century Gothic]When the Shias raised objections to this kitab during the life of the author, Allamah Tabrasi, he wrote a reply entitled ‘Raddush shubhat an Fasl al khitab fi ithbati tahrif Kitab Rabbil arbab’. These two books (original and reply), really, have left no room for the Shias to deny the belief of the distortion of the Quran.
[FONT=Century Gothic]Also, the author of this kitab attained such a high rank amongst Shias that he was given place to be buried in the ‘Mashad Murtazawi’ (tomb of Ali (R.A) at Najaf). According to Shias, this is considered to be the holiest place on the face of this earth. Only those Scholars are buried here who are unanimously accepted by all Shias. Khoemani was also aware of ‘Fasl al khitaab’. Yet he paid glowing tributes to the author in his ‘Al Hukumat al Islamiyyah’. (Khomeni, Iranian revolution 171) Had the Shias truly disowned his book and beliefs, they would also regard him as a disbeliever. On the contrary, they hold him in high esteem and regard him as a great scholar.
[FONT=Century Gothic]Finally, even if we do accept their rejection of this kitab, what answer will they give to the narrations of Usool al kafi etc? Shias believe “Usool Al-Kafi is the oldest, greatest, best and the most accurate book”. (The book of Al Muraja’aat , Muraj’ah number 110)
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