Murder while saving woman’s honor not a crime: LHC

I just have one question. Who made this moron a judge?

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

Murder while saving woman’s honor not a crime: LHC

LAHORE: The Lahore High Court (LHC) has declared murder to save a woman’s honour not a crime, a private TV channel reported on Thursday. According to the channel, Justice Asif Saeed Khosa ruled this while hearing a murder case. The court acquitted Ghulam Nabi and his son Iftikhar, saying murder to save a woman’s honour was not a crime. The accused had killed one Yasin while saving a female relative’s honour. The trial court sentenced them to 10 years’ imprisonment but the LHC acquitted them. daily times monitor

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Who needs FATA when you have Lahore High Court to give us justice? From Iftikhar Chaudry to Dogar to this idiot. Justice system for jahils.

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Does US punish someone if they killed while defending against an attacker? I think by laws if someone gets killed during the struggle to defend it is considered 'not-a-punishable-crime'. It looks close to "honor killing" but is a bit different.

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This is very good news. All the females can sleep soundly now. Someone protecting them from rape/molestation will not be jailed if the protector accidently/intentionally murders the rapist. Finally some justice in the world. Rapists have no self respect in my eyes. They should be stoned to death anyways.

And shamraz khan, wahid doyum you people are males. Take it from a female prospective. Would you like that you get jailed for accidently/intentionally killing your sister/wife/mother's rapist? God forbid if that ever happens.

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This is not about killing rapists, but killing anyone who the male relatives think dishonored the female of the family. This could be anything from love marriage to accidentally looking at a woman. We all should be smart enough to know how such a law will be used by chaudries and sardars in pakistan.

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Are you this oblivious of what is written in the article? It says saving a woman's honour. What more is a woman's honour and dignity? Her izzat? It is about rapists.

Read again:
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How the chaudhari and sardars use a law, does it mean we shouldn't have any law against rapists? Abuse of law or abuse of lack-of-laws can happen anywhere.

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You are very naive. Honour or ghairaat for a feudal pakistani simple means that the feudal ghunda owns the woman of his family and anything he feels "dishonors" woman makes it ok to murder the woman and supposed perpetrator. Trust me, this precedent will simply be used to protect "honour" killers.

This is not a law against rapists or anyone. It's actually not even law, but a precedent set by LHC that makes it OK to murder if one concludes the honour o f a woman is threatened.

So in Pakistan how many fuedal ghundas are actually prosecuted anyways? How many 'thany-dars' of villages have courage to put a feudal ghunda behind bars and execute/punish him for killing anyone? Lets not just look at every law from "feudal" perspective.

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It is important to look from the other perspective too. I understand laws can be misused. If a rapist get killed, I think the law should take cognizance of the fact and then decide. If people misuse the law, then the judges should be prudent to understand what is a misuse and what is not.

I agree.

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Murder is not just a crime against an individual, but its also a crime against the state. This ruling encourages people to take law into their own hands where anyone can kill anyone in the name honor & get away with it, too.

BTW, we already have honor killings & pretty soon some judge will say its not a crime either.

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i agree with those that say this is troubling in terms of legal precedent as justification for honour killing.

the judge should have the good sense to atleast use more precise words. 'defend honour' how? if its to ward off a rapist, no argument from me.

Just an example,

A women is being raped and she is crying for help, will you interfere to save her, and ur interference will be like " Excuse me sir, but it is crime to rape a woman, please let her go" and the guy we will say, "thankyou mr, for ur guidance, i never knew it was a crime, pleae pardon me for my guilt, this woman is my sister from now"

In the real world, the guy will give real TREAT, and will continue with his intentions.. what will u do, call the cops and wait for them and during all this, the woman will get raped...

Taliban came into existance cause this “MORON” was not there, only if verdicts are given to enhance peace & harmony and not to enforce someone’s decision, Taliban will never survive…

This might be start of new erz, the judge has given the justice, and calling him moron shows what mentallity and character you have.

1st lets not get personal. 2ndly there is no diff between this judge and taliban. Prosecuting criminals is state responsibility & when individuals takes law into their own hands its called anarchy. That is why rule of law matters regardless nature of crime & under most legal systems in the world (baring few failed states) state is the only authority legally sanctioned to execute convicted criminals.

You do realize only idiots appoint idiots. Who appointed those two btw?

Most likely this case will be appealed. Let's see what happens in the appeal process.

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Is "honour" = saving a woman from rape or "saving" a woman from marrying from another biraadri or tribe?

Most of the "honour" in Pakistani communities overseas is of the second kind.