Mumtaz Qadri protest turns violent in Islamabad Red Zone

pathetic situation in Islamabad

Around 10,000 people protesting the execution of Mumtaz Qadri – a former Punjab police commando hanged last month for assassinating Punjab governor Salman Taseer – breached Islamabad’s Red Zone Sunday evening and clashed with police.
There were also reports of police using tear gas to disperse the crowd from the high-security zone outside the parliament building.
Earlier, more than 25,000 people had gathered in Rawalpindi’s Liaquat Bagh to participate in the Chehlum of Qadri.

Mumtaz Qadri protest turns violent in Islamabad Red Zone - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

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army has been called into red zone............

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Barelvis are showing these days that they are not far behind others in intolerance and violence.

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the army must take action against those harii pagRiiwalas who resort to violence to keep this menace away from general public. kill those criminals if they have to.

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They should be tackled fiercely, take the heads and sieze their property...do it once and this menace won't be seen again

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Very Bad situation
Military called to rein in violent Qadri protestors in Islamabad

Govt calls in army to control law and order situation in Red Zone.

**اسلام آباد کے ریڈزون میں فوج سے مدد طلب](اسلام آباد کے ریڈزون کی سیکیورٹی کیلئے فوج پہنچ گئی - Pakistan - Dawn News Urdu)
**Above all is surprising , I live here and there was no expectation of this all

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look at this idiot…matlab govt shd never take any tough step

Moeed Pirzada ‏@MoeedNj](https://twitter.com/MoeedNj) 25m25 minutes ago
Looking at situation in Islamabad I wonder if Govt decision to hang Mumtaz Qadri was wise? Public Policy decisions have to weigh utility

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agreed....secretly send messages to all heads of religious parties that you and your families will not be spared or put your act together. these religous leaders are all cowards who only want masoom awam to spill the blood..so they will get the message

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Sunni Tehreek was involved in violence since long. I have read some slogan like 'Suniyon ka jangi jahaz, Sarwat Aijaz, Sarwat Aijaz ' 15 years back.

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We never know here in Pakistan , this all is normal or some thing behind

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Haroon44 mins ·

There MUST be zero tolerance for any sort of extremists or extremism in Pakistan. This is not Islam! All Pakistanis must stand in solidarity against these psychos!! If you know of anyone who appears radicalised or has extremists views please report them to the authorities they are potentially dangero

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Sunni Tehreek is MqM...

They resort to killing and violence and i guess are on payroll of RAW as well

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There was much fear here on the day of Namaz e Jenaza but there was nothing today
How this all happened , We all are surprised

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Let me try to explain this phenomenon.

When Qadri was hanged all of a sudden, Mullas were in shock that how come a man they glamorised as Aashiq e Rasool, who could not be hanged even after verdict of courts due to support from even lawyers and judges, was suddenly hanged without even before they knew it. That shock alongwith fear that any riot in jenaza will lead to severe consequences stopped them from big riots. Though there were incidents of stone pelting even in Karachi on that day.

However, the way they promoted Qadri as Rehmatullah and promoted his big funeral as some miraculous signs coupled with photoshopped noorani face of the killer Qadri provided the jahil followers some courage. JI's million March to render khiraj e aqeedat to Qadri was another mileage to strengthen the view that they are doing right and have all the right to take law in order in their hands. Just go through Ummat's issues after 29th Feb and look at the reporting style about this issue. In a month's time, these kuttas became sher to attack parliament house and all religious parties including JI and right wing media (Ummat) has a role what happened today first at Karachi Press Club and then in Islamabad.

All the problem lies in mishandling groups like JI who have time and again openly challenged writ of government and brain washed innocent masses to meet their shameless agenda.

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They should all be arrested and thrown in jails. Dont want these dogs roaming the streets.

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round them all up and cut off their heads. That would quickly ensure these "brave" people's retreat back to their holes

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Where are the protestors for the children killed in the army school attack in Peshawar?

Will they come out to protest the Lahore blasts this weekend?

When the West criticizes muslims for not doing enough about these people they have a point.

In America, we have a gazillion Islamophobia conferences going on.

We have like nearly NO peace vigils for these Lahore bombings, no support sessions for the hanging of Mumtaz Qadri, no mention of Salman Taseer's death by even the major muslim representative groups here, and very little in the way of formal programs to prevent youths from joining ISIS. No major outreach projects to protect people from extremism. No conferences denouncing extremism on the scale that these Islamophobia conferences are being done.

Hamza Yusuf is the only man I have heard give a very direct khutbah against Isis and all terrorist groups, where he directly targets these people and their misquided ideas. The others softly talk about it, but spend more time talking about Islamphobia and trying to defend good muslims from a bad rep. No one is going on the OFFENSIVE with these groups. We just stand in front of the world and give defensive speeches.

That doesn't work.

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Issue is that groups like JI are deeply rooted in society. If you start rounding up people and hanging them, and improsing them, situation will quickly turn into the rebel-vs-Assad situation in Syria, and there are lots of hungry countries ready to throw money at and fund the Pakistani version of "rebels" - i.e. groups like JI etc who will feel disenfranchised when their leadership starts being put in jail.

Syrian population that is running away has said one thing in multiple interviews, and they are right. You can get rid of one group and it doesn't matter. Other groups will rise. We tried to get rid of Taliban , we got TTP. We get rid of JI, it will be some other group then later. Getting rid of Al Qaeda, and then we got ISIS.

The issue isn't the group itself and it's leadership, it's the underlying thought process of extremism. It's the idea that people actually think misogyny, women's strict dress codes and social laws about women (i.e. are they allowed to work, drive, etc), how you treat someone who chooses to not believe in Islam, apostasy ideas, treatment towards non-muslims, treatment towards shrines, treatment towards churges/temples/synagogues, treatment towards other sects of Islam, shia vs. sunni ideas, rules regarding jihad, predictions of a khalifat, etc are all actual Islamic beliefs.

None of the above is Islamic, but people won't accept that, and that's a very deep rooted problem amongst all muslims, and that's what people mean that we need "Islamic reform". These topics need to be addressed by scholars, and clarifications need to be made, and then furthermore, the education needs to be widely implemented. Clarifications are being made, but right now, education is in the hands of wahabbi funded curriculum, rather than these clerics that no one seems to be listening to.

The following ideas need to get built into curriculum in Pakistan - in madrassah system, and in the private and government sectors also. And not just in Pakistan, but in every muslim majority country, and in every muslim immigrant community outside. And that's NOT going to happen any time soon, because there are too many salafi/wahabbi forces that won't let it happen. We have to disown wahabbism, and you'll see, the radicalization will end.

  1. niqab - make it haraam. Women must be made to show their face. (ref: hadith where Rasulullah explictly states the face stays open).

  2. hijab - make it optional. Don't celebrate this as something that makes a woman automatically heaven-bound, as we celebrate it today. It was not used as such back then. There is also no evidence a woman was ever punished for showing her hair, and there are hadith's that show women did come in front of Rasullullah SAW w/o covering their hair. "Khimar" in the Quran should be translated as "cloth" rather than "headcovering". Use the literal translation, don't impose an implicit translation on this word. Muslim scholars will mostly reject this idea.

  3. Acknowledge that beards and hijabs have become a cult-indocrtination code. Nothing different than a gang tattoo used to identify you as different from others and as part of a sorority/fraternity group. There is NO such dress code in Islam. This is all based on one hadith where Rasulullah SAW suggested muslim men in war grow beards to distinguish themselves from the enemy. We are not in war anymore and shouldn't be.

  4. Educate on the very distinct rules for Jihad which the Quran already dictates. Shove it down everyone's throat so they understand they're not supposed to pick up arms on their own. Give the power to wage war ONLY to nation-states and leader heads. Make it a crime to pick up arms on your own, and treat it as TREASON, and hang these people right away.

  5. Make it a crime to hurt a Shia. Hang the people that do it. Educate sunnis and shias both about each other's interpretations, and make it socially acceptable to pray next to each other moving your hands in different ways during prayer. Even a verbal slur or a verbal criticism of Shias should be blocked and punishable. Should have punishments like what would happen if you made anti-semitic statements in the US.

  6. Make holidays for minorities public holidays, and have muslims openly participate with these non-muslims during their holidays. Muslims can celebrate Holi with Hindus in India, why can't we?? We should have been standing guard at that park in Lahore protecting Christians while they celebrate their Easter publicly.

  7. There needs to be a door to door check of people suspected for extremism, take their laptops, cell phones, etc and if you see suspicious activity and activity/books preaching hate, take it from them and put them in a detention center where they are deradicalized. I think yeah, it's getting to this point that if we don't start nipping these people in the bud, that they will cause more and more problems.

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And most importantly, any mullah who is preaching hate speech - there should be an overnight operation in Pakistan where these people are picked up and put in jail. Then if they don't repent, then execute them.

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You know how these extremists feel no shame in lynching people in public for apostasy etc? We need to be brave, call THEM apostates, and LYNCH THEM.