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Why is thread still open? Whoever the Mod is plz close it. Discussion over this has been done to death already.
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the decent and best scholars around only have one wife.....just something ive observed
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It's their choice, doesn't make it wrong, and even they would agree that they are allowed to have multiple wives.
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for some reasons we have made it very easy for all the males to have four wives and stuff. if looked at that ayah closely, it does not even give permission in such a way as is understood today. but we will come up with anything to keep our society male-dominant and then we call ourselves muslims and think that we are the true followers of that great faith.
Actually, you're not correct about that. Muslim males do not need their wife's permission to get remarried. It's considered good Islamic manners to get permission, but it's not necessary by any means. Having four wives is a right God has given Muslim men. With that right comes responsibility, and many men do not exercise that right. In the old days, when men went fighting in wars in distant lands, they couldn't contact their old wives when they were going to take another wife. As much as you want to deny it, men are totally allowed leniency in their sexual lives that women aren't allowed. A Muslim man is totally within his God given rights to have sex with his female slaves without marrying them, and these women do not count as their four wives. Even our Prophet pbuh NEVER married Maria bin Qitbiyah RA, and he even had one more concubine (Rayhana RA), who he never married. These things are hard for us to understand today, but our Islamic laws are meant for all times.
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can i have the evidence for this please? (from a reliable source)
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Whats the big deal if men marry 4 women?? Just imagine how weird it would be if a woman was married to 4 guys.
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If you do a quick internet search, you'll see that some websites say this. However, you'll also find websites that say its hard to confirm whether or not the Prophet married these women, and some further say this is a falsity.
Who the hell knows.
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^I've NEVER heard of this before......and ive been to millions of talks ranging from seerah of the Prophet to marriage....not once has this come up that the Prophet (pbuh) had concubines. I think we need to get our information from reliable sources...otherwise keep quiet.
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Impulse, this information can be found on the Islam QA website:
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=47572&ln=eng
I prefer this website because they give you solid references to the hadith. It’s a little tricky navigating the web on this topic since so many anti-Islamic websites are abound using the Prophet’s marriages as a way to discredit him.
Also, I have a book at home called “The Wives of the Prophet” by Fida Hussain. It’s an old book, and she’s compiled a lot of interesting information about the lives of the Mothers of the Believers. I always thought it was common knowledge that the Prophet pbuh had concubines. For me, it’s not a shock since I’ve grown up knowing this information.
About the husband not needing the first wife’s approval:
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=12544&ln=eng
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=3924&CATE=10
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Thanks RKR, it is pity that american girls like PCG, Angel di aankhen and Impulse begum are not aware of this.. it is pretty obvious and they teach this in any Islamic school. It is clear that these ladies have not attended any Islamic school and have learnt Islam second hand(from relatives and friends). They should make it mandatory for every muslim to attend an Islamic school.
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im sorry but the sources seem very weak…the only sources I would say are reliable are
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Quran,
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Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim (two most authentic hadith collections)
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4 other authentic collections: **Sunan of Tirmidhi, Nasa’i, Ibn Majah, and Abu Da’ud. **Together these four and the two sahih collections are called the “six books” (al-kutub al-sitta).
(Two other important collections, in particular, are the Muwatta of Ibn Malik, the founder of the Maliki school of law, and the Musnad of Ahmad ibn Hanbal, the founder of the Hanbali school of law.)
Apart from the above sources (in order of how authentic they are…)…I dont trust any other sources.
Quas…stop assuming things. I went to the BEST islamic school in UK, but unlike you I dont like advertising it…because showing off is a form of shirk and the first people to enter the fire will be those who did good deeds only to get praise from people (i.e. to show off). so to you I may come across as someone who doesnt have much knowledge about Islam…but only Allah knows how much knowledge (or lack of) I have 
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dont u show off about urself and your finance. Anyways shirk is associating partners with Allah swt. Otherwise every muslim has committed shirk.
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Any reason why did you have to go to an Islamic school in the UK as opposed to Pakistan. Pakistan has some of the finest Islamic schools and madarssas -people from outside come and learn Islam. Recently, lot of Sikhs also have started pouring in. So, when people come from outside to Pak, why did you have to leave your homeland to learn Islam? I have met of gori girls who have been to American and British madarassas and convert to Islam but they're far from being pious- they drink, dont wear veil, and wear jean and T-shirts and their Pakistani husbands gladly approve that :p
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Impulse, I agree with you that the six books are the most authentic books for the Hadith, but there's a lot of Islamic history which can be found in other respected sources as well. If you don't believe me, you should ask a local imam or scholar about the marriages of the Prophet pbuh. There are so many interesting facts about their lives that aren't necessarily taught in Islamic schools (probably because of a lack of time, and concentration on other topics). For me, I was fascinated that Khadijah RA was married twice before she married the Prophet pbuh and had three children who survived into adulthood. One of her sons actually was shaheed fighting for the Prophet. (How many of us know that he had stepchildren not only from Khadijah, but from some of his other wives as well?) Or that Aishah RA was once accused of adultery? Or that, sometimes, the wives would get slightly jealous of one another? To me, this showed their humanity, that they too felt what we all feel. And it's interesting to see how they resolved the situations that arose.
Having slaves and concubines (and having sexual relations with them, i.e. male master and female slave) is permissible in Islam. We may not understand it today, but there is some divine wisdom to it.
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sometimes I wonder why i even bother replying to you…cuz u talk like such a kid…guys normally use thier brains alot more …is urs on vacation ? 
showing off in terms of religion is shirk…learning the whole quran by heart…just so that others will say how great he is…giving to charity just to show people…etc.etc…these are sins in itself…and these people will be the first to enter hellfire.
p.s. theres MANY forms of shirk…major and minor shirk…and minor shirk is when someone shows off in religious matters…for example praying longer in front of people just to show people,…this is a form of shirk…doesnt seem like u know much about shirk.
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Im born in UK, so obvioiusly id go to a school in the country where my parents live.
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Ever heard of this? The person who mocks is worse than the person who gets mocked…& I’m pretty sure 99% of all muslims have committed shirk at one point or another by ur definition.
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there are many forms of shirk....and showing off is a "sagheera" form of shirk....ask ANY knowledgeable person or scholar. I dont want to argue with someone who doesnt even know their religion properly....and then argues like he knows it..
the best person is who doesnt know something and ADMITS they dont know it.
Im not discussing this anymore with you....cuz ur just making things up now. learn about Islam before u act like u know it all.
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Yah, I know I'm a sorry excuse for a muslim....anyways...sum1 who doesn't believe in Allah swt and does these things is committing shirk...I guess its a thin line, a person who truly believes in Allah swt wouldn't show off others to believe in Allah swt. Ur right, I guess it's what angle you look at it from.
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