Multiple Wives...

[chacha_khan]

Re: Multiple Wives…

@quas

I have been educated by some of the best islamic scholars in Lahore, and Sialkot..

if a dopey idiot like u is the product of ’ some of the best islamic scholars in Lahore, and Sialkot’ then u’ve just proved my point, that doesn’t say much about these so called scholars, neither does it say much about ure own intelligence, if u have to get a ‘scholar’ to teach u something which is already there infront of u, u can’t be too smart, islam is not that hard to understand, but then some people… …don’t have a clue.

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do you even know how difficult it is to become a true muslim?
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it’s only difficult for those who don’t agree with islamic teachings, if ure finding it so hard, u must be a bad muslim.

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nah… forget it. relax on your couch and watch TV…
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u got couches in pakistan…and zeetv

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Islam is not for those who twist their thinking to suit their actions..
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thats most pakistani’s out then?

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I am sure you drink, go to clubs, not grow beard and even talk to girls at bar.. pitty is all I can say
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drink? hell no…clubs?..nah, u got 1 thing right though, i don’t grow a beard, well done quas, 1 outta 3, not bad, not bad at all. Whats this about talking to girls, i seem to remember not so long ago u posting something like “hello guppies** esp girls**”…and now u gone all molvi on me.

u can’t argue with me quas, ure not smart enough, u might grow a beard but like most, u use it to hide ure true nature and decieve ( ) people, and going all defensive like " i’m a true muslim who is only trying to re-educated western muslim women" after i’ve knocked u down a peg or 2 is pathetic.. , if u can’t defend ureself in an argument then u shouldnt be on here, and u call ureself educated…huh?

[K4plan]

Re: Multiple Wives…

@chacha khan

if a dopey idiot like u is the product of ’ some of the best islamic scholars in Lahore, and Sialkot’ then u’ve just proved my point, that doesn’t say much about these so called scholars, neither does it say much about ure own intelligence, if u have to get a ‘scholar’ to teach u something which is already there infront of u, u can’t be too smart, islam is not that hard to understand, but then some people… …don’t have a clue.

ROFL, thats true.

[chacha_khan]

Re: Multiple Wives…

@K4plan

Slating someone sarcasticly (sp?) really isn’t what a true Islam representative would be carrying with him.
When debating on Islam, its best to refrain from throwing any personal remarks around. Thats not civil, polite or either an Islamic thing to do.

quas is a fraud, but ‘K4plan’, ure a better muslim than me.:k:

[K4plan]

Re: Multiple Wives…

@chacha khan

quas is a fraud, but ‘K4plan’, ure a better muslim than me.:k:

Thankyou but I wouldn’t say I’m all that great either.

Quas is ermmm just acting like a true pakistani extremist. Yea sue me.

[quas]

Re: Multiple Wives…

@chacha khan

if a dopey idiot like u is the product of ’ some of the best islamic scholars in Lahore, and Sialkot’ then u’ve just proved my point, that doesn’t say much about these so called scholars, neither does it say much about ure own intelligence, if u have to get a ‘scholar’ to teach u something which is already there infront of u, u can’t be too smart, islam is not that hard to understand, but then some people… …don’t have a clue.

Islam is easy but then its also deep my brother and sometimes there can be many interpretations of the same thing- people can pick the wrong one up- thats why you need a moulvi, an Islamic scholar to tell you what to do especially in cases when you are confronted with many options.. obviously, YOU are showing signs that you haven’t met one islamic scholar yet. Please my brother, get enrolled in one madarssa- this is my humble request.. you are showing signs on a true non-muslim to me already. We need more madarssas in Pakistan.

@chacha khan

it’s only difficult for those who don’t agree with islamic teachings, if ure finding it so hard, u must be a bad muslim.

I am a devout muslim and but you seem to be a kafir(a non-believer). You need to be shown the right path. My best guess is that you are a Hindu and a bihari or an Indian muslim.

@chacha khan

Islam is not for those who twist their thinking to suit their actions..
thats most pakistani’s out then?..

No!! hell no! Pakistanis are the most polite, sane individuals- maybe as an Indian you didn’t get a visa to meet one good Pakistani. Atleast we dont fight over religion in India the way they do in India (Obviously as a Hindu u support Mr. Narendraa Mody and have forgotten Gujarat and partition riots).

@chacha khan

drink? hell no…clubs?..nah, u got 1 thing right though, i don’t grow a beard, well done quas, 1 outta 3, not bad, not bad at all. Whats this about talking to girls, i seem to remember not so long ago u posting something like “hello guppies** esp girls**”…and now u gone all molvi on me.

u can’t argue with me quas, ure not smart enough, u might grow a beard but like most, u use it to hide ure true nature and decieve ( ) people, and going all defensive like " i’m a true muslim who is only trying to re-educated western muslim women" after i’ve knocked u down a peg or 2 is pathetic.. , if u can’t defend ureself in an argument then u shouldnt be on here, and u call ureself educated…huh?

See, there is a big difference.. I am talking to the girls on the net and it is same as talking to them while they are in purdah(hijaab).. That’s fine with me and everyone in Pakistan- you can talk to them while they are wearing hijaab and show nothing except their eyes.. IT IS NOT OKAY WITH ME or ANYONE IN PAK to talk to girls in tank tops and tight jeans.. please, dont bring your religion(hindu or Indian islam) here. Why the hell havent you grown any beard? want to become salman khan from chacha khan? pity

Allah Hafiz,
Quas

[quas]

Re: Multiple Wives…

@chacha khan

quas is a fraud.:k:

Can you elaborate please? Just hurling plain personal insults without provocation is an old habit of the Indians.

[hussain87]

Re: Multiple Wives…

@K4plan

Thankyou but I wouldn’t say I’m all that great either.

Quas is ermmm just acting like a true pakistani extremist. Yea sue me.

he man watch ur tongue:halo: …he is not saying u should marry more then 1 women …he is here just to defend islamic point of view and that is a muslim can have more then 1 wife at 1 time …u don,t have to agree with it but saying u can,t do that is against our religoun:) …and for matter of fact my dad was mullah and since we came to holland my dad had to do every thing for us from cooking to laundry cuz my mom didn,t feel right…and that all did he for 7 years long..he had also religous responsebilities …so not all ppl are the same…

[K4plan]

Re: Multiple Wives...

@quas

Islam is easy but then its also deep my brother and sometimes there can be many interpretations of the same thing- people can pick the wrong one up- thats why you need a moulvi, an Islamic scholar to tell you what to do especially in cases when you are confronted with many options.. obviously, YOU are showing signs that you haven't met one islamic scholar yet. Please my brother, get enrolled in one madarssa- this is my humble request.. you are showing signs on a true non-muslim to me already. We need more madarssas in Pakistan.

Are we certain that every scholar is such an angel that he may not misinterpret the the Quran/Hadees?

I am a devout muslim and but you seem to be a kafir(a non-believer). You need to be shown the right path. My best guess is that you are a Hindu and a bihari or an Indian muslim.

WOW, JUST WOW.. YOU REALLY ARE A DEVOUT MUSLIM. DO YOU REALISE HOW MUCH OF A SIN IT IS TO CALL ANOTHER MUSLIM A KAFIR. NO? Go and ask one of your scholars/maulvis.

No!! hell no! Pakistanis are the most polite, sane individuals- maybe as an Indian you didn't a visa to meet one good Pakistani. Atleast we dont fight over religion in India the way they do in India (Obviously as a Hindu u support Mr. Narendraa Mody and have forgotten Gujarat and partition riots).

No, we Pakistaniz are damn scary. I was once robbed in a shop in Lahore, mayn.

See, there is a big difference.. I am talking to the girls on the net and it is same as talking to them while they are in purdah(hijaab).. That's fine with me and everyone in Pakistan- you can talk to them while they are wearing hijaab and show nothing except their eyes.. IT IS NOT OKAY WITH ME or ANYONE IN PAK to talk to girls in tank tops and tight jeans.. please, dont bring your religion(hindu or Indian islam) here. Why the hell havent you grown any beard? want to become salman khan from chacha khan? pity :p

Yes but it certainly does depend on the nature of the conversation. Islam doesn't encourage anyone to take upon ramblings to the oposite of sex. Allah Hafiz, Quas

You iz such a Pakistani, Mister.

[K4plan]

Re: Multiple Wives…

@hussain87

he man watch ur tongue:halo: …he is not saying u should marry more then 1 women …he is here just to defend islamic point of view and that is a muslim can have more then 1 wife at 1 time …u don,t have to agree with it but saying u can,t do that is against our religoun:) …and for matter of fact my dad was mullah and since we came to holland my dad had to do every thing for us from cooking to laundry cuz my mom didn,t feel right…and that all did he for 7 years long..he had also religous responsebilities …so not all ppl are the same…

Yea your dad had a valid reason to marry another wife. I’m sure thats acceptable but what about those promiscous men who only marry many wives to fullfill their sexual desires? If theres nuthing wrong with the first wife, theres no real reason to marry again in this day and age.

[Afridi786]

Re: Multiple Wives...

Yah, they shudnt for sexual desire, they can, but they shudn't. Lock this thread, I dont like seeing it when I enter this forum.

[hussain87]

Re: Multiple Wives...

@K4plan

Yea your dad had a valid reason to marry another wife. I'm sure thats acceptable but what about those promiscous men who only marry many wives to fullfill their sexual desires? If theres nuthing wrong with the first wife, theres no real reason to marry again in this day and age.

well my dad never wanted to marry eventhough my mom said to him we have lil kids and who is going to take care of them and therefore she gave parmission to my dad but he didn,t feel good about that cuz he said u never know how another women is gonna behave with u:):o ....and i am glad he didn,t marry cuz we would have felt quite misrable of his decision:) ......

[K4plan]

Re: Multiple Wives...

@hussain87

well my dad never wanted to marry eventhough my mom said to him we have lil kids and who is going to take care of them and therefore she gave parmission to my dad but dad never wanted to do that and also he didn,t feel good about that cuz he said u never know how another women is gonna behave with u:):o ....and i am glad he didn,t marry cuz we would have felt quite misrable of his decision:) ......

Man, we need more men like your dad out there.

[Sara516]

Re: Multiple Wives...

@quas

Can you elaborate please? Just hurling plain personal insults without provocation is an old habit of the Indians.

and calling someone a kafir and considering Indian Islam as a separate thing from "mainstream" islam is not an insult?

[hussain87]

Re: Multiple Wives...

my dad died 2 years ago is an accident and now my mom does everything ....... ofcourse with help of us:) ......sometimes i cook and somtimes my mom make food for us:) ....and quite frankly i like to cook:D ......

[K4plan]

Re: Multiple Wives...

@hussain87

my dad died 2 years ago is an accident and now my mom does everything ....... ofcourse with help of us:) ......sometimes i cook and somtimes my mom make food for us:) ....and quite frankly i like to cook:D ......

Itz good to know that you're there for your mother through the hard times - its upon you to support her now :)

[Impulse]

Re: Multiple Wives...

@quas

I am a devout muslim and but you seem to be a kafir(a non-believer). You need to be shown the right path. My best guess is that you are a Hindu and a bihari or an Indian muslim.

ONLY Allah has the right to judge who is Muslim and who is kafir...calling a Muslim a kafir is a big sin. im shocked you even said this

@quas

See, there is a big difference.. I am talking to the girls on the net and it is same as talking to them while they are in purdah(hijaab).. That's fine with me and everyone in Pakistan- you can talk to them while they are wearing hijaab and show nothing except their eyes.. IT IS NOT OKAY WITH ME or ANYONE IN PAK to talk to girls in tank tops and tight jeans.. please, dont bring your religion(hindu or Indian islam) here. Why the hell havent you grown any beard? want to become salman khan from chacha khan? pity :p

Allah Hafiz, Quas

talking to girls behind a purdah is ok? I saw a pakistan police program the other day....there was 2 brothers and one was married and other one wasnt. the wife of the married one wore a full nikab....only her eyes were showing. However, her and the unmarried brother had an affair and "loved" each other...even though she had a kid....so they KILLED the husband of this nikabi.....maybe they also believed its RIGHT to have an affair as long as the woman is wearing nikab?

and a beard says NOTHING about a person...in fact id say the ones without beards are generally more sincere people compared to the beard ppl (in my opinion)...some people with beards are the biggest frauds around....even today i was talking to a friend of mine who happened to tell me what a bearded guy has been saying to her recently....they were supposed to be discussing "dawah" work....but apparently "sweet dreams" etc...came somewhere into it too.

[Afridi786]

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LoL, ok, delete this thread, sum1? any1?

[Mehnaz]

Re: Multiple Wives...

Afridi, request denied. :)

[quas]

Re: Multiple Wives…

@Impulse

ONLY Allah has the right to judge who is Muslim and who is kafir…calling a Muslim a kafir is a big sin. im shocked you even said this

talking to girls behind a purdah is ok? I saw a pakistan police program the other day…there was 2 brothers and one was married and other one wasnt. the wife of the married one wore a full nikab…only her eyes were showing. However, her and the unmarried brother had an affair and “loved” each other…even though she had a kid…so they KILLED the husband of this nikabi…maybe they also believed its RIGHT to have an affair as long as the woman is wearing nikab?

and a beard says NOTHING about a person…in fact id say the ones without beards are generally more sincere people compared to the beard ppl (in my opinion)…some people with beards are the biggest frauds around…even today i was talking to a friend of mine who happened to tell me what a bearded guy has been saying to her recently…they were supposed to be discussing “dawah” work…but apparently “sweet dreams” etc…came somewhere into it too.

I can go on at length to convince you about importance of beard and purdah and other good things of Islam but that’ll be an overkill… ask any islamic scholar.
Forget bout the story.. many like the ones you mentioned are doing rounds in the western media too.. Pervs are everywhere but a few get reported depending upon how clever the media is. How do you say clean-shaven guys are much more decent and beardos(as you call em) are frauds? Does after shave lotion make them decent? plz. explain. thanks!

[Impulse]

Re: Multiple Wives…

@quas

I can go on at length to convince you about importance of beard and purdah and other good things of Islam but that’ll be an overkill… ask any islamic scholar.
Forget bout the story.. many like the ones you mentioned are doing rounds in the western media too.. Pervs are everywhere but a few get reported depending upon how clever the media is. How do you say clean-shaven guys are much more decent and beardos(as you call em) are frauds? Does after shave lotion make them decent? plz. explain. thanks!

quas… this year Ive been the HEAD of the islamic society at my university for a whole year…and I had to work with ALOT of bearded guys…as well as non bearded ones…I personally prefer the non bearded ones generally…now this is just me and the experiences ive had…im not saying anything against bearded guys…some of them are also very respectable but alot arent too.

as far as u always telling me that im not a Muslim and ur trying to teach me Islam…thanks to Allah, I know quiet abit about the religion anyway…hence the reason i was **chosen **to become the Head of Islamic society (whether i wanted to or not is a different issue)…so dont assume all of us living in the west are bad…