this election was a big test for shah mahmood qureshi and he has failed to deliver for imran khan.
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No meaningful electoral reforms have been undertaken, PMLN is doing something in the province (albeit cosmetic) where as Imran Khan is coming across as a person who is all talk and no walk. The reality is that if elections are held today PMLN would win with a bigger margin as compared to 2013. PTI is neither reforming itself nor organizing. Its funny how Imran Khan keeps on repeating the mantra that elections would be held this year. If performance of PTI in cantonment board and now this constituency is not enough to open IK’s eyes, nothing will. In previous elections PMLN man won here with less than 5 K lead which has doubled now. Another thing is that Multan has shunned ethnic politics over what they consider as performance. Something to open the eyes of the opposition.
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Oops.. but PTI candidate still got good number of votes. However where is PPP?
According to unofficial results, Mr Hassan secured 28,324 votes, Mr Jabbar bagged 18,112 votes, while the PPP candidate Muhammad Hussain Arain could got only 6,519 votes.
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PPP is at the same place where it is in all of punjab. non existent. were you expecting it to win or do better than this?
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agreed…lagta hai imran sithya chuka hai. he is again announcing this is election year :). first begging umpire aka pak amry to intervene and when that didnt happen and PM didnt resign either which was Imran’s primary demand (not PTI"s but imran’s demand), he decided to get married, then lost cantonment elections (and PTI fans had gazallion excuses for that)…and now again same shor sharab that get ready, this is election year as if he will sweep through the elections.
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If free and fair elections are held today PTI would have lesser seats than 2013, situation has changed for PTI since 2013. Imran Khan preferred to base all his politics on one issue (rigging in the previous elections) while ignoring real issues people were facing. In our politics ‘optics’ do matter, people would favor “Shahbaz” standing in knee deep water (no one would question him about the reason of water in the streets) as compared to that who does not show up when his voters are in trouble. People prefer those candidates who are on their side in their sorrow and happiness. PTI lost a lot of support in Rawalpindi (as depicted by CB elections), can one ask IK how many times he has visited that constituency? IK preferred to do a jalsa in Multan as compared to visiting those who voted for his candidate in 2013. Still lost that constituency and now how can he beg for votes from Ismailis?
He was saying that he would do real opposition, can some one tell me how many proceedings of National assembly has he attended? How many issues of public importance has he raised? People’s issue is not what happened in 2013, lets take this one though (as this is the only point which PTI has raised during the past 2 years), what role has PTI played in reforming the electoral system? PMLN has strengthened during the past two years at the expense of PTI.
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Dude, are you out of your mind? Seriously? Sometimes you act like a thankless and frustrated turncoat. Shouldn’t you be asking this question to majority government and the main opposition party who also admitted rigging? Enough of this throwing your toys out of pram tactics of yours. PTI is the only party who in the history of Pakistan made the issue of electoral rigging a mainstream and prolonged debate, so much the despite all the obstacles and slack they receive from arm chair critics like you, they had not allowed the issue to go away. They are belligerently and proudly struggling! Yet you have the nerve to ask *what role *they had played in bringing electoral reform? The only reason likes of you even know the term electoral reform is due to PTI! What on earth you think they are trying to achieve by proving electoral rigging - yes so an electoral reform can come through at the end of all that. I’m not at the point I’m not even surprised by the things you say. People like you deserve muka mukka politics or dare I say democracy that PMLN and PPP do because ultimately your favourite past time is to blame the party and the only party which tries to do something different.
You know what, apart from your typical and ever so predictable doom and gloom analysis - PTI will actually win majority of the seats from KPK (based on performance) and thoroughly replace PPP from Punjab as the opposition party. Moreover, they will win few more seats from Karachi. People like you are so confused about democracy that they prefer to mislead the youngsters by professing that democracy is all about winning or losing whereas democracy is about free and fair elections! It’s due to utterly ignorant bogus intellectual analysis that, PTI has been struggling for past 2.5 years to prove that electoral rigging is a the biggest crime against democracy because people like you don’t allow any consensus to be formed. If there was a genuine anti rigging consensus since day one, I’m pretty sure PTI would’ve managed to get those four constituencies investigated within 3 months of the legal deadline. But no lets come up with all those pathetic and disgusting opinions, that oh yeah I know rigging happened but it doesn’t matter because PTI would’ve lost anyway. If parties like PMLN and PPP had invested in good education, people would not have been spewing such brain dead anti intellectual BS.
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I can get past the hypocrisy. On hand hand you are saying Pakistanis are so stupid that they only vote on the optics yet on the other hand you are reinforcing and validating such stupidity by saying how PTI deserves to lose because Khattak isn’t a media hungry sod like Shahbaz Sharif. Well I am glad he isn’t, find me a single KPK government ad where CM KPK’s picture or PTI’s logo is plastered on different spots. You know this is the practice followed in the West…personal and party advertisement are strictly forbidden in government’s name.
Good for PTI for introducing such practice in KPK while people of Punjab can continue swooning over the pictures of SS standing in flood water looking like an idiot.
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Yes for PTI there is only one issue in the country, rigging in 2013 elections, maybe it would help iof IK would go ask the person on the street what his issue is. As far as previous elections are concerned, what can the JC at the most? Denotify the elections and hold a new one? Who would win that election? PTI?
As far as second part of your post is concerned.
Doesnt this situation hold good even now? So all this agitation to reach the same situation that exists now?
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If Imran Khan had some sense he should have tried for electoral reform, perform in KPK, let the government complete its term. Highlight matters of public interest. I have been pointing out for the past many months when PTI began its agitation politics that the party is still not organized enough to win the elections. If they had succeeded in dislodging the government PMLN would have come back again by virtue of victim card, the best way out was to let them get defeated through their bad governance (similar to what happened to PPP, dictators tried to dislodge this party but they couldnt succeed. The decision to let them complete their tenure did wonders). Hey, but IK didnt have patience which is the basic thing in politics…he played all his cards wrongly and has lost a lot of support.
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Again your idea of democracy is all about winning and losing and I pity you! I really do and I think I can only blame your kind of thinking so much - this mentality is a product of a certain environment which needs to be changed and will be changed evntually. I am a PTI supporter, but I also understand and appreciate democracy, my commitment to democratic Pakistan is stronger than my support for PTI. And I am more than prepared to see PTI lose on the basis of performance in free and fair elections. This is what you call democracy, and this is what happened in NA-246!
Since likes of you only how to throw the word democracy but actually don’t know that true democracy really means - respecting sanctity of people’s vote is the fundamental aspect of a true democracy. PTI is a democratic party, and they know how vital free and fair democracy is to Pakistan’s survival. Electoral rigging has been an issue in past 70 years but it is only now that someone decided to fight against it. If this issue is not fixed, then mega criminals like Zardari and Nawaz will continue to loot the country through turns! Are you feeling ashamed of how courts are opening 27 years cases against NS and Zardari and dismissing them totally in matter of days?
And what is your issue? PTI has managed to overtake PPP and that itself is an achievement considering PPP’s history. It’s perfectly democratic to have a hung parliaments. Again it is another one of those typically ignorant views of democracy that it is all about winning majority seats. Many of of PTI supporters like myself predicted a hung parliament or a PMLN government with a very thin margin.
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How? Go on. Don’t just throw these words randomly, see if you can also explain them. Before starting the dharna, the request to open four constituencies, thumb verifications, and the role of ROs was submitted in the parliament. How about for once, you actually tell me what happened to that request.
Actually Ali, enough of fooling people around. How about you give us a number of proposals submitted by all parties (on all issue) and tell me how many of those proposals turned into debates, Bills and Acts. Go on…I have the answer but let’s see if you can - for once - back up your typical slot filling rhetoric.
I thought it was basic common sense that no solution can be devised until the cause of the problem as been identified. Has the JC identified what caused rigging, where it happened and who and how it was caused in order for an electoral reform to come through?
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You know what, it is people like you who can act all goo gee gaga goo over whatever PMLN is doing in LAHORE, but PTI will get elected for the doing oh so little things like this:
Road to progress: Newly-constructed Sweer Bridge turns hours to minutes - The Express Tribune
Apologies that the bridge is not as glamorous or publicity friendly as the ride like overpasses you see in Lahore. But it is still good enough to transform communities, and the locals in KPK appreciate this thoroughly.
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Ali, do you know how many Acts and Bills PTI managed to pass KPK assembly in last two years?
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It is existing , even gaining if you check the statics
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I am sorry to say stats dont support your claim.
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Not to rain on anyone’s doom and gloom parade or propaganda campaign, but @Ali_Syed, did you read this in everyone’s favourite Dawn:
This is how PTI is addressing people’s concerns and ensuring that service is delivered through public offices not through Bani Gala! I have no intention to become PTI’s dessert bird, but I can give you hundreds of examples to show how PTI is on the right track in KPK. Don’t just sit there and call KPK government a failure just because they are not propping up mega expensive scam projects or handing our billion rupee contracts to shady companies with no audit! And no, you won’t find CM KPK in photo-op opportunities going door to door asking people what is their problem. Stick to Khadim e Ala style only Lahore focused dramebazi for such things.
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^ thats good, I was talking with reference to Punjab as PTI cannot win power without that province. I am just saying that instead of getting bogged down by one issue, PTI should have raised other issues as well (which were of public importance), reorganized the party and then hope to cash in the next time the elections were held. They wasted a lot of time, even in KPK during the past few months. Let them deliver there so that they can have something to show their voters the next time around. The coming elections would be based on performance. When Imran Khan was demanding Nawaz Sharif’s resignation I was against it as I knew the party had nothing to show. However cosmetic PMLN has things to show, if the party had been dismissed a few months back they’d have become victims and the same mantra that they were not allowed otherwise they would have done wonders.
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billul theek kaha :cobra:
leekin ab u ko pti k wahshi jiyalay aor jiyalian choray gi naheen ![]()
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madam jee ek bat to batain idhar u k ilawa sub bawaqoof hein na ? cobra: oh mera matlub hey jo PTI k khilaf bolay kia un mein koi u k jitna aqalmand hey me ko chor ker ![]()