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informative but WRONG!! so so wrong
Re: Muharram Starts!!! Some Important Questions to Ask (Exclusive)
but allah says he wanted to pure them...not said already pured you...you misinterprete it.....
ASTAGHFAR................. you means ALLAH Want to pure them, but he failed to do it?/ May ALLAH Guide YOU.
ALL AHLE SUNNAT AGREED ON THE FOLLOWING STATEMENS AND HADITH AND QURANIC VERSE.... Could you please let me know that either you are more knowledgeable then all or what???
Evidence From Quran
The Holy Book of Allah mentions Ahlul-Bayt and their exceptional virtue in the following verse which is known as "Purification Verse" (Ayah al-Tat'hir):
"Verily Allah intends to keep off from you every kind of uncleanness O' People of the House (Ahlul-Bayt), and purify you with a perfect purification". (Quran, the last sentence of Verse 33:33)
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Note that the word "Rijs" in the above verse has got the article "al-" at its beginning which makes the word universal. Thus "al-Rijs" means "EVERY KIND of
impurity". Also at the end of the verse, Allah states "and purify you a PERFECT purification." The word "perfect" comes from the emphasis of "Tat'hiran". This is the only place in Quran that Allah uses the emphasis of
"PERFECT purification".
According to the above verse, Allah expresses his intention to keep Ahlul-Bayt pure and flawless/sinless, and what Allah intends it will certainly take place as Quran itself testifies (see 16:40). Indeed, a human can be sinless
because he is not forced to commit sin. It is the human's choice to accept the instructions of Allah and get His help to avoid sin, or to neglect Allah's commandments and commit the sin. Allah is advisor, and encourager,
and warner. A sinless human is still a human; no doubt about it. Some people assert that in order to be human, one SHOULD have some mistakes. Such claim
is unsupported. The truth is that Human CAN make mistakes but he does not have to.
It is the Grace of Allah that attracts His servants towards Him, WITHOUT compelling them any way. This is our choice to pursue this attraction and refrain from doing mistakes, or to turn away and commit the mistakes.
However, Allah has GUARANTEED to show the Right Path and to provide a pure life for those who seek it:
Whoever works righteousness man or woman and is faithful, We shall revive a PURE life for him. (Quran 16:97)
And whosoever keeps his duty to Allah, Allah will appoint a way out for him. (Quran 65:2)
It is worth mentioning the sentence of Quran in verse 33:33 which is related to purification of Ahlul-Bayt, has been placed at the middle of verses related to the wives of the Prophet (PBUH&HF), and this was the main reason
why some Sunnis include the wives of the Prophet in Ahlul-Bayt. However, the sentence related to Ahlul-Bayt (given above) distinguishes itself from the sentences before and after it with a clear distinction. The sentences before
and after, use only feminine gender which clearly shows they are addressing the wives of the Prophet (PBUH&HF). However, in contrary, the above sentence uses only masculine gender which is a clear indication that that Quran is changing the individuals who is referring to.
People who are familiar with Quran to some extent, know that such a sharp change of addressee is not a weird-thing, and it has been applied to several places in Quran. For instance we read in Quran:
"O Joseph! pass this over and (O wife of Aziz!) ask forgiveness for your sin, for truly you have been at fault."(Quran 12:29)
In the above verse, "O wife of Aziz" has not been mentioned and the address to Joseph (AS) looks to continue. However the transition of the address from
masculine gender to feminine gender clearly shows that the second sentence is addressing the Aziz's wife and not Prophet Joseph (AS). Notice that both sentences are WITHIN one verse. Also note the immediate change of addressing from Aziz's wife to Joseph and again back to the wife in verses before verse 29 and also WITHIN that verse.
In Arabic language, when a group of women are being addressed, feminine gender is employed. However, if only one man exists among that group, masculine gender is used instead. Thus the above sentence of Quran clearly
shows Allah is referring to a group other than the wives of the Prophet, using masculine gender, and that group includes some male members.
From the verse 33:33 alone, we can not conclude that the wives of the Prophet are not included in Ahlul-Bayt. This latter claim can be proven by the authentic traditions of the Sunnis from Sihah Sittah in which the Prophet
mentioned who Ahlul-Bayt are; and also by comparing the specifications of Ahlul-Bayt given in the verse of Quran with the behavior of the some of the wives of the Prophet mentioned in Sihah Sittah to prove the contrary.
What can be understood from the verse ALONE is that Allah is changing His address (which was exclusively the wives of the Prophet at the beginning of the verse) to some people who include some male members, and may or may not include the wives of the Prophet.
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Authentic Traditions
It is interesting to see that both Sahih Muslim and Sahih al-Tirmidhi as well as many others confirm the Shi'ite point of view explained above. In Sahih Muslim, there is a chapter named "Chapter of Virtues of the Companions".
Inside this chapter, there is a section called "Section of the Virtues of the Ahlul-Bayt of the Prophet". There exists ONLY ONE tradition in this section, and this tradition has no reference to the wives of the Prophet (PBUH&HF).
The tradition is known as "The Tradition of oak/Mantle" (Hadith al-Kisaa), and is as follows:
Narrated Aisha(r.A):
One day the Prophet (PBUH&HF) came out afternoon wearing a black cloak upper garment or gown; long coat), then al-Hasan Ibn Ali came and the Prophet accommodated him under the cloak, then al-Husain came and entered the cloak, then Fatimah came and the Prophet entered her under the cloak, then Ali came and the Prophet entered him to the cloak as well. Then the Prophet recited: "Verily Allah intends to keep off from
you every kind of uncleanness O' People of the House (Ahlul-Bayt), and purify you a perfect purification (the last sentence of Verse 33:33)."
Sunni reference: Sahih Muslim, Chapter of virtues of companions, section of *
*the virtues of the Ahlul-Bayt of the Prophet (PBUH&HF), *
*1980 Edition Pub. in Saudi Arabia, Arabic version, v4, *
*p1883, Tradition #61.
Below is the Arabic text of above tradition given in Sahih Muslim:
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One can see that the author of Sahih Muslim confirms that:
1- Imam Ali, Fatimah, al-Hasan, and al-Husain are the Ahlul-Bayt,
2- The purification sentence in Quran (the last sentence of Verse 33:33) was revealed for the virtue of the above-mentioned individuals, and NOT for the wives of the Prophet (PBUH&HF).
Muslim (the Author) did not put any other tradition in this section (section of the virtues of Ahlul-Bayt). If the author of Sahih Muslim believed that the wives of the Prophet were included in Ahlul-Bayt, he would have quoted
some traditions about them in this section.
It is interesting to see that Aisha, the wife of the Prophet (PBUH&HF) is the narrator of the above tradition, and she herself is testifying that Ahlul- Bayt are the above-mentioned individuals (i.e., Imam Ali, Fatimah, al-Hasan,
and al-Husain, may the blessing of Allah be upon them all).
Another version of the "Tradition of Cloak" is written in Sahih al-Tirmidhi, which is narrated in the authority of Umar Ibn Abi Salama, the son of Umm Salama (another wife of Prophet), which is as follows:
The verse "Verily Allah intends to ... (33:33)" was revealed to the Prophet (PBUH&HF) in the house of Umm Salama. Upon that, the Prophet gathered Fatimah, al-Hasan, and al-Husain, and covered them with a cloak, and he also covered Ali who was behind him. Then the Prophet
said: "O' Allah! These are the Members of my House (Ahlul-Bayt). Keep them away from every impurity and purify them with a perfect purification." Umm Salama (the wife of Prophet) asked: "Am I also included among them O Apostle of Allah?" the Prophet replied: "You remain in your position and you are toward a good ending."
Sunni reference: Sahih al-Tirmidhi, v5, pp 351,663
Here is the Arabic text of above tradition given by Sahih al-Tirmidhi:
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As we see, al-Tirmidhi also confirms that Imam Ali, Fatimah, al-Hasan, and al-Husain are the Ahlul-Bayt, and the purification sentence in Quran (the last sentence of Verse 33:33) was revealed for the virtue of the above-
mentioned individuals, and NOT for the wives of the Prophet (PBUH&HF). Also it is apparent from above authentic tradition that the Prophet himself
excluded his wives from Ahlul-Bayt. If Umm Salama (RA) was among Ahlul-Bayt, why didn't the Prophet answer her positively? Why didn't he enter her into the cloak? Why did the Prophet tell her that she remains in her own position?
If the Prophet (PBUH&HF) would consider Umm Salama among Ahlul-Bayt, he would surely have entered her to the cloak and would have prayed for her perfect
purity as well.
It is also worth mentioning that the Prophet (PBUH&HF) did NOT say: "These are among the Members of my House". He rather said: "These are THE Members of
my House" since there was no other member of Ahlul-Bayt who was alive at the time of the Prophet (PBUH&HF). Also notice that Umm Salama (RA) who is the virtuous wife of the Prophet is the narrator of the tradition to his son and
gives the testimony that who Ahlul-Bayt are.
In the tradition of al-Hakim the wording the last question and answer is as
follows:
Umm Salama said: "O Prophet of Allah! Am I not one of the members of your family?" The Holy Prophet replied: "You have a good future but only these are the members of my family. O Lord! The members of my family are more deserving."
Sunni reference: al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v2, p416
Also the wording reported by al-Suyuti and Ibn al-Athir is as follows:
Umm Salama said to the Holy Prophet: "Am I also one of them?" He replied: "No. You have your own special position and your future is good."
Sunni reference:
- Usdul Ghabah, by Ibn al-Athir, v2, p289
- Tafsir al-Durr al-Manthoor, by al-Suyuti, v5, p198
Also al-Tabari quotes Umm Salama saying:
I said, "O Prophet of Allah! Am I not also one of your Ahlul-Bayt?" I swear by the Almighty that the Holy Prophet did NOT grant me any distinction and said: "You have a good future."
Sunni reference: Tafsir al-Tabari, v22, p7 under the commentary of verse
33:33
Beside Sahih Muslim and Sahih al-Tirmidhi from which we quoted the Tradition of Cloak on the authority of Aisha and Umm Salama respectively, below are more Sunni references of the Tradition of Cloak who reported both versions of the traditions:
(3) Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v6, pp 323,292,298; v1, pp 330-331; v3, p252;v4, p107 from Abu Sa'id al-Khudri
(4) Fadha'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, p578, Tradition #978(5) al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v2, p416 (two traditions) from Ibn AbiSalama, v3, pp 146-148 (five traditions), pp 158,172(6) al-Khasa'is, by an-Nisa'i, pp 4,8
(7) al-Sunan, by al-Bayhaqi, narrated from Aisha and Umm Salama
(8) Tafsir al-Kabir, by al-Bukhari (the author of Sahih), v1, part 2, p69
(9) Tafsir al-Kabir, by Fakhr al-Razi, v2, p700 (Istanbul), from Aisha
(10) Tafsir al-Durr al-Manthoor, by al-Suyuti, v5, pp 198,605 from Aisha and Umm Salama
(11) Tafsir Ibn Jarir al-Tabari, v22, pp 5-8 (from Aisha and Abu Sa'id al-Khudri), pp 6,8 (from Ibn Abi Salama) (10 traditions)
(12) Tafsir al-Qurtubi, under the commentary of verse 33:33 from Umm Salama13) Tafsir Ibn Kathir, v3, p485 (Complete version) from Aisha and Umar Ibn
Abi Salama
(14) Usdul Ghabah, by Ibn al-Athir, v2, p12; v4, p79 narrated from Ibn Abi Salama
(15) Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Ch. 11, sec. 1, p221 from Umm Salama
(16) Tarikh, by al-Khateeb Baghdadi, v10, narrated from Ibn Abi Salama
(17) Tafsir al-Kashshaf, by al-Zamakhshari, v1, p193 narrated from Aisha
(18) Mushkil al-Athar, by al-Tahawi, v1, pp 332-336 (seven traditions)
(19) Dhakha'ir al-Uqba, by Muhibb al-Tabari, pp21-26, from Abu Sa'id Khudri
(20) Majma' al-Zawa'id, by al-Haythami, v9, p166 (by several transmitters)
... and more ...
*Here is another authentic variation of "The Tradition of Cloak" which is *
related to Safiyya who was another wife of the Prophet (PBUH&HF). Ja'far Ibn Abi Talib narrated:
When the Messenger of Allah noticed that a blessing from Allah was to descent, he told Safiyya (one of his wives): "Call for me! Call for me!" Safiyya said: "Call who, O the Messenger of Allah?" He said: "Call for me my Ahlul-Bayt who are Ali, Fatimah, al-Hasan, and al-Husain." Thus we
sent for them and they came to him. Then the Prophet (PBUH&HF) spread his cloak over them, and raised his hand (toward sky) saying: "O Allah! These are my family (Aalee), so bless Muhammad and the family (Aal) of
Muhammad." And Allah, to whom belong Might and Majesty, revealed: "Verily Allah intends to keep off from you every kind of uncleanness O' People of the House (Ahlul-Bayt), and purify you a thorough purification
(Quran, the last sentence of Verse 33:33)".
Sunni references:
- al-Mustadrak by al-Hakim, Chapter of "Understanding (the virtues) of *
*Companions, v3, p148. The author then wrote: "This *
*tradition is authentic (Sahih) based on the criteria of *
*the two Shaikhs (al-Bukhari and Muslim)." *
*- Talkhis of al-Mustadrak, by al-Dhahabi, v3, p148
- Usdul Ghabah, by Ibn al-Athir, v3, p33
Although the majority of traditions on this issue show that the last sentence of the verse 33:33 was revealed in the house of Umm Salama (as quoted earlier), the above tradition implies that it might have been revealed in the
house of Safiyya. Based on the opinion of the Sunni scholars including Ibn Hajar, it is quite possible that the verse was revealed more than once. In each occasion, the Prophet repeated his action in front of different wives so
that they all realize who his Ahlul-Bayt are.
The testimony of three wives of the Prophet (Aisha, Umm Salama, and Safiyya) leaves us no room but to believe that the Ahlul-Bayt at the time of the Prophet were no more than five individuals: Prophet Muhammad, Lady Fatimah,
Imam Ali, al-Hasan, and al-Husain (Peace be upon them all).
The fact that the gender in later part of Verse 33:33 is switched from feminine to masculine, has led the majority of Sunni commentators to believe that the last part was revealed for Imam Ali, Fatimah, al-Hasan and al-
Husain, as Ibn Hajar al-Haythami indicated:
Based on the opinion of the majority of (Sunni) commentators, the saying of Allah :"Verily Allah intends to ... (the last sentence of the verse 33:33)" was revealed for Ali, Fatimah, al-Hasan, and al-Husain, because of the usage of masculine gender in the word "Ankum" and
after that.
Sunni reference: al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar, Ch. 11, section 1,
p220
Although the Shia have great respect for the highly righteous wives among the wives of the Prophet (PBUH&HF), such as Khadija, Umm Salama, Umm Ayman and ... (may Allah be pleased with them) who closely followed the Prophet and his Ahlul-Bayt before and after the demise of Prophet (PBUH&HF), yet we do not
include even those respected individuals into Ahlul-Bayt since the Prophet clearly excluded them according to the authentic Sunni and Shi'i traditions.
Ahlul-Bayt have exceptional virtues that no other pious person after the
Prophet would possess them in the world, which are according to Quran: sinlessness, flawlessness and perfect purity.
The Messenger of Allah said:
"Whosoever wishes to live and die like me and enter that heaven (after
death), which my lord has promised me, namely, the ever lasting heaven
should acknowledge Ali (AS) as his patron after me, and after him he
should acknowledge the sons of Ali, because they are the people who
will never leave you outside the door of guidance nor will they
let you enter the door of misguidance."
Sunni references:
- Kanz al-Ummal, by al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, v6, p155, Tradition #2578
Abdullah Ibn Hantab related:
The Messenger of Allah addressed us at Juhfa saying: "Do I not have
authority over you more than yourselves?" They all said, "Yes of
course." Then he said: "I shall hold you answerable for two
things, namely, the Book of Allah and my descendants."
Sunni reference:
- Ihyaa al-Mayyit, by al-Hafidh Jalaluddin al-Suyuti
- Arba'in al-'Arbain, by Allamah al-Nabahani
- Also abridged Kanz al-Ummal on the margin of Musnad of Ahmad Ibn Hanbal v5, p32
IF STILL YOU KEEP DENYING THE ABOVE THEN I THINK YOU ARE NOT MUSLIM, may be you belong to some other sect and you here just for despute....because a person who is sunni muslim he respect all the above books which is core for Ahle Sunnat wa al jummat.
ALLAH HAFIZ.. see you all of you brother after End of May 2007. becuase now my Isamic dissertation is in crucial stage.. ALLAH HAFIZ AND TAKE CARE AND KEEP READING AT LEAST YOU OWN BOOKS. AND DECIDE WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG,, if YOU THINK THAT ABOVE ALL IS WRONG PLEASE LET ME KNOW< SO I WILL STOP GIVING REFERENCES FROM IT, and i will consider it all fabricate, and in future no one in this forum will bring references from it...
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Yes excellent description…
actually out of 1, 24,000 prophets …no one has a chance to establish the pure religious state as a political leader…
***Nooh(as) **own son deviated…
*looth(as) own wife deviated…
***ibrahim (as) **, though very great , not established a state…
***moosa(as) **was going to establish but the vicious bani israel neglected to enter israel… and said you and your lord fight , we are sitting here…kaisay nahingar sahaba thai moosa(as) kai …
***essa(as) **was sold on **32 **dinars by one of his own hawari …
but when last prophet(pbuh) came … the sky never seen such the great companions who sacrificed everything
for the sake of muhammad(pbuh) and islam.
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Infact when abdullah ibne saba *started his **sabai **movement .... the basic purpose was to **degrade these great companions **who , in the first **time of human history *, helped the **messenger **of allah to establish a **political state **and not only that , but expand it to such a vasteness that yet world not seen such a great state **ever carved out **on the map of world.... 3 continents **were under **umar bin abdul aziz **regime.... africa , asia , europe......
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1. **muslims defeated jews and all of **3 tribes **were killed , **expelled **and defeated.... so thier enemity , which was already so much , increased further ... so **ibne saba **found the **right target **to degrade these sahabas as these were the people who defeated his **ancestors...
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2. **To make **golden history **of muslim conquerers so malicious , **controversial **and delicate that instead of people gaining **inspiration **from them , keep on investigating** about thier characters and so called *greed of power *...
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3.To make sahabas so controversial **that the **quran **they collected **also **become controversial... as this **most basic **islam pillar become controversial ...then it will be easy to find **loop-holes **in islam as saying that quran is **not complete, in the cave of imam , has been lost, the ayats about the cursing of sahabas and in favour of wilayat of ali(ra) ahs been deleted by these sahabas .....
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4. once quran becomes controversial... then it is easy to say those sahabas who did not collected **the quran properly...how can they collect the **ahadees **of prophet(pbuh) .!!!! as a result **whole of ahadees collection will also become controversial ....
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Excuse me? He is mentioned in the Quran with Prophet s.a.w and only Sahabi referred as a "Companion" in the Quran. Hazrat Abu Bakar r.a. is the best after the Prophet a.h. When Prophet s.a.w was migrating to Medina, he chose someone who He could trust the most and someone who was closest to Him.
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5. And the most important is , the *unbilieveble conquests **of these sahabas which are **un-parrelled **in history as accepted by all western historians also ... to create a pause in them ...otherwise these sahabas will conquer the **whole world **in a shoprt time .... so create a **fitna **between them , in the name of **Huubb-e-Ali *, so that people will easily fall a prey to it , so they start fighting each other and as a result somehow thier **journey of conquests **come to an end....
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One can use Alehe Salam for ahlebait too.
If it’s Ok to say Assalaam o Alalkum Salam be upon you why is not OK to say Alehe Salam salam be upon them. It’s perfectly OK to say Alehe Salam for Ahle Bait.
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Yes very true… he is only one written as “companion”…
and was the best to be chosen at migration…infact he started weeping at this gift when he first heard the prophet(pbuh) that allah has ordered me to bring you in my migration…
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I agree with you Farwah. It’s time to be Muslims instead of Sunni Shia:
YouN to Sunni bhee ho Shia Bhee ho
Yeh to Batao kiya tum muslimaan bhee ho
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Brother , i respect your views …
but this matter is not too much great so we become touchy or allergic over it…
the real matter is the false colouration of historical incidents upon which the whole shia doctrine is based and seperated with majority of ummah…that is the real problem…!
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Mairai bhai … my purpose in this long thread is also to clear the historical misconception between these of two sects … and i and my other respectful memebers ..like **khanbabax , jan leva **and all other members also tried to ****raise the curtains of history ****that there were **no **such things between ali(ra) and all other sahabas … or any greed of power in sahabas… all are **fairy tales **created ****hundreds of years after ****…for just political intersest… nothing was that in the period of all 4 great caliphs… thats why i quoted time and again from history…
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all 4 had a very good relations between them ....
so shias also follow thier imams .....
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dawai dil.....remember the links i posted....u should read the entire article..hopefully you will learn something...Allah tumko maarfat-e-Ahlebait de inshallah
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I will quote one of the marvellous sermon of **lion of god **, ali(ra) from the book **Nahg-ul-Balagha **and the sermon no. 127
you can check this sermon at : http://www.al-islam.org/nahj/
With regard to me, **two **categories of people will be ruined, namely he who **loves me too much **and the love takes him away from rightfulness, and he who **hates **me too much and the hatred takes him away from rightfulness. The **best **man with regard to me is he who is on the middle course. So be with him and be with the great majority (of Muslims) because Allah’s hand (of protection) is on keeping unity. You should beware of division because the one isolated from the group is (a prey) to Satan just as the one isolated from the flock of sheep is (a prey) to the wolf.
we all know that the people who hated ali(ra) were khargites who atleast killed him …
the majority of people , which ali(ra) is saying above is, ahle sunnah waljamah …91% almost or 1.2 billions …
the third one who loves hims very much which ali(ra) says in first line… i will not say anything… just my respectful readers connects the dots themselves…
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Still such a clear cut **statement from lion of God..... and still people are in **doubt .....
will i go in the deserts as a *majnoo *??????
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what about ummayads! they did not hate ali?