Muharram Myths

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There are a lot of misconceptions regarding Marriage, buying anything new like car…etc. would bring bad fortune. Following is the answer for Sunnis:

Source: http://askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=b14dbc02a3fc14a2eea2b386a1946664

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right..but im afriad there are some people who have immense respect for esteemed personalities like imam hussein and rejoicing in the month which brought sadness to the ahle bayt does not seem right to them.

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Some ahadees prohibit mourning a death more than 3 days.

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^ If you saw your own fammily murdered in front of your eyes one by one then believe me you would not smile so often.

Let those who want to mourn, mourn in whatever way they wish!

I myself am a Sunni and have always been a fervent follower of Sunni Islam but I have no enmity for the Shia and in fact thier grief is my grief, thier sorrow is my sorrow and we share a common ancestry.

I think it's up to the individual at the end of the day... but out of respect I too mourn the loss and indeed it seems very unfair to hold a celebration of any kind during such a sad and emotional time.

Furthermore it comes to mind that many years ago our faith was led by Hazrat Umar who forbade any mourning of shaheeds for he believed one should not mourn the passing of someone who has not died but has simply gone to a better place.

Yet even Umar wept like a child when he heard one of my heroes Khalid bib Al Walid had passed from the world of mortals. Wailing "Women shall never give birth to the likes of Khalid bin Al Walid"

So If Hazrat Umar Faroooq, may Allah be pleased with him, declared an unprecedented spate of national mourning on the passing of one great Muslim warrior, why can we not mourn and observe such for Muharam after all no man can say he played upon the back of the Prophet as a child... indeed not even the sword of Allah.

But alas It's up to the individual... I just thought i'd point out some reasons why one should respect such a time.

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Faris, I love you bro.

And when Uthmaan was killed, didn't the people wail and cry holding his blood stained shirt in Masjid e Nabawi?

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islam is a complete way of life, muslims follow the prescribed way, duration and etiquette of mourning

i know you want to support the shias as a political gesture but if it means trampling on islam, if the trampling is shown to you, will you continue to support them?

is fabricating hadiths, questioning the quran, adding a line of prophets, trampling on the high status of the sahaba ra and ummulmomineen ra, desserting (rawafid) the main group of muslims not enough indication of their desire for unity?

abu hanifa rah: "Whoever doubts whether they are disbelievers has himself committed disbelief."

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islam is complete code of life, but aqal plays an extremely important role. i suggest u use ur aqal. what makes u think a true follower of ahle bayt would rejoice in this month? the month reminds us of the sacrifice of imam hussein and u expect people to engage in parties, weddings?

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Abu Hainfah? You must be jocking! You want me to quote the edicts of Kufr issued against Abu Hainfa by prominent Sunni Imams which includes Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal, Imam Malik, Imam Shafiyee, Imam Ibn al Mubarak etc?

So please keep the Kafir Kafir thing with yourself!

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Nobody should call any kalimagoh a Kaffir. Full stop.

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For Sunnis

Why not mourn the days of Shahadah / torture days of people more superior in degree to the Imams (At least not less then the Imams) ? PROPHETS. Hazrat Zakarya (a.s) split into two from the center of his head. Hazrat Yahya (a.s) butchered and many Prophets achieving shahadah on the same day......etc.

Above all, the day the most beloved Prophet Mohammad (saw) got stoned for 2 miles in Taif ?? At least we can easily find out the date this incident happened, even though there are many more painful incidents in the life of the prophet (saw). If you start marking them, you would have nothing to do except mourning every single day. Probably you won't be able to marry or buy anything on any day of the year, throughout your life. Because there isn't a single day in the life of the Prophet Mohammad (saw) when he didn't go through the toughest tests/pain/sorrow...etc. no other human on this earth has gone through.

Even Imam Hassan (r.a) and Imam Hussain (r.a) didn't mark the day of Hazrat Ali (r.a)'s Shahadah for mourning every year.

Lets stop mourning and try our level best to follow the foot steps of our Imams and Prophets in order to achieve success in this life and hereafter.

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I would be interested to see your references.

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Here on in a pm? Bec thread could deviate if we indulge into this one, so its your call.

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^why not here, so everyone can see it?! After all u shared the info here, no?

From what I know, weddings are not prohibited during Muharram as some people wish to make it sound like. Personally, I think one should not have a wedding in Muharram, because it is a month of sacrifices of our Prophets beloved once and just like you wouldnt set a date on the day of your mother/father/sister/brothers death anniversary, same way, show the respect. No need to chop Islam in pieces in every details and be like "oh it doesnt say this or that" .. Use your common sense. God given gift.

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^ Well said. :k:

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Why then ignore the death anniversaries (Shahadah) of so many prophets and Suhabas. Didn't Hazrat Ali (r.a), Hamza (r.a), Umar (r.a), Usman (r.a), Talha (r.a), zubair (r.a), Saad (r.a), Hanzalah (r.a)...etc. and thousands of Suhabas not get shahadah, or are they not as dear to us that we don't need to remember their anniversaries and can happily marry on their Shahadah anniversaries ?

We shouldn't marry on the day suhabas got shahadah in Hijrat, Badr, in Ohad,....etc.

And if it is only about death anniversary and not Shahadah anniversary, then we should also include the wives, daughters and sons of the Prophet (saw). How bad would it be that we marry on the day they left this world.

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^ Well spoken. :k:

Few people know that we must all make durood on Thursdays to remmber the fallen Shaheed at Uhud. Most people just say Jumehratfi ka Durood without knowing the reason behind it.

In my fammily we do not make any celebrations on Thursday or Wednesday unless it’s an official Eid or Milad or other Urs shareef.

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so you see the problem is that all the sahabas you mentioned, well most of them i admire, none of them were subjected to atrocities similar to karbala. they werent driven out of their homeland with their sons, daughters, infants, wives, elderly to camp under the scorching sun without water for three days and then slaughtered in a day. None of the families of the sahabas you mentioned were taken captives and taken to the court of yazeed laen to be humiliated with the severed heads of family of the holy prophet(s).

The tragedy of Karbala is unique. Its remembrance comes naturally to a musalman, those who claim to be followers of Muhammad(s). The purpose of Muharram, its sanctity and reverence is not to 'mourn' the dead. The shaheeds of karbala are not dead. They are very much alive, only we perceive not (paraphrasing the holy book). You remember Karbala because of its exceptional circumstances, to ponder upon its message and act upon it and of course pay your tributes to your leader in paradise. Having said that, rejoicing in this period is unexceptable to at least to the shias. Do you know that NONE of the imams of shia, beginning with Ali died natural deaths? Some were murdered and most were poisioned. All of them subjected to some form of evil and the biggest evil was of course Yazeed.

So the problem is not the Shahada of Imam Hussein or Ali or Hamza etc. The problem is the nature of the shahada, the circumstances, the reasons and the sheer brutality of it. Can you find any incident similar to Karbala? Its no wonder its known as the 'tragedy of Karbala' and poets like Allama Iqbal, scholars such Kalam Azad and even non-muslim writers have attested to the fact that this particular incident stands out to every other incident. The steadfactness of the imam, the chivarly, sincerity to the cause, piousness are unparalled and that makes Karbala worth remembering and respected.

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I would second every single word you have spoken .. :)

Please share here

again, very well said

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I don’t want to get into huge arguments, so i will try to keep it brief
http://www.shia-nj.org/documents/Calendar_2011.pdf
Above is a link to shia islamic calendar, it has all the important dates, Shahdat of Masoomeen a.s Wiladat of Masoomeen a.s, Eids, Shab-e-qadar, Shab-e-Barat, wedding day of Mola Ali a.s with Bibi Fatima s.a e.t.c.
We don’t know dates of all events through out the year but try to keep the dates we know in our mind everyday of year and recall which significant event happened on same day years ago.
Above said, we do have majalis and Jaloos of shahadat of every Shaheed Imam but Moharam is Unique for alot of reasons. I will provide couple here:
We Do believe that Mola Ali a.s and Mola Hassan a.s are above Mola Hussain a.s in Rank but we dont do as many preperations on there martyrdom of as we do for Imam Husssain. why?
When Mola Ali was struck on head by Ibn-e-Muljam Laeeen, He had his sahaba around him, His family around him, Laeen was captured, He was provided Kafan and all necessities that we do for a martayr after his shahadat were provided.
When Mola Hasan a.s was Poisoned, He was arnd his family, his sahaba. He was provided Kafan and Janaza was done and all the obligations were full filled.
This doesnt mean we forgot how many times arrow was thrown on Mola Hassan a.s mayat or How mulsims treated Mola Ali while he was alive but compare these deaths to Death of Imam Hussain and you will see why we mourn for Mola Hussain a.s more than others.
His shahdat was the reason Hashmi women were taken bare head to Bazars of sham. Mola Ali didn’t have to carry six months old to get him some water from people who had killed his brothers, son and nephews. Other Imams didn’t have to collect pieces of there nephew before there shahadat and carry body of a 19 yrs old son to tents of Hashmi Women.
If I kill an innocent baby today, u guys will want me to be burnt alive… but when I go to the court and the judge puts a hang to death sanction on me…even after doing such a shameful act and dereving this punishtment… I will be asked if I want water before I am hung… We remember this day more coz Hashmi’s and there sahabas were killed thirsty. I don’t want to go in detail but I will like to mention… Ask shia in this forum if they mourn more about what happened on day of aashura or what happened follwing day of ashura and you will get a surprising answer.

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^ Well Said! I second every single word of the above post.