I can’t go on with life, I want to see things from your perspective, from my family’s perspective, I just don’t get it! When muslims criticize everything else, why don’t they hold Islam to the same level of interrogation/questioning? The definition of morality is worlds apart from what it used to be centuries ago yet Muslims hold on to the definition of morality in the Quran.
Technically, you are. My entire community is muslim like you, everything they do from eating to what they wear to what profession they choose has to be in accordance with Islam. And my family is not even all that typical either!
I say absolutely nothing because I don’t want to upset them..but Islam is embedded in my lief to the point I can’t leave it behind even if I want to. Someone says something and I start wondering, I start looking for answers and then I end up here eventually.
I am restless and have always been!I have forever asked questions not just about Islam but about everything in general. Islam is a true religion, it’s a religion and that’s exactly what it is- organized. I am not here to get people to agree with me. I am just trying to see things from your perspective…and then when I do see it, it makes no sense.
For the same reason you want to belong to a group (your family & community). I don’t want to feel like an outcast so I keep trying..I find my peace and then someone says something in regards to Islam that how it’s so peaaceful and that sends me looking for answers yet again. Then I flip through the pages of Quran to find pertinent interpretations and find nothing…maybe I just don’t get it! Am I dumb or am I not reading what they have read? How do you take a verse out of the Quran and interpret it in a way that fits your definition of morality? You are ok with taking the verses out of context as long as they justify your actions, but then the same people turn around and curse those terrorists who are infact doing the exact same thing!
I will admit, I am scared to let go. You want to know why? Because if anybody has read the Quran, they know how horrible the punishment is for nonbelievers and Allah will null all good deeds of a nonbeliever. I love my God, I ask for forgiveness from my God, but this Allah of Islam categorizes humans in slaves, masters, concubines, prisoners, men(a degree higher than women). It recognize this as the natural order! Slavery is long gone but it wasn’t Muslims who outlawed it, they were pressured to do so by the West. There’s so much that doesn’t align with my belief system. I see humans as complete equal of each other. No one can own another human under any circumstances. This religion of truth is old politics. There are excuses why Islam couldn’t do away with slavery, concubinage and all that because it would lose “control”. When a question of multiple marriages arise, it was to strengthen political ties among tribes. When questionable Ahadith are layed out, they must be from a nonreliable source. How can you have the punishment of Zena when men can have 4 wives PLUS concubines but a woman must be married to one man. Women then by default are more likely to get persecuted because she is only allowed one man. If the west never intervened, Muslim men would still be marrying 4 women and having unlimited concubines. No woman would be thrilled to see her husband bringing in another wife, if she is, it’s A LIE or she is insane. Everything is permissable for men yet anything that addresses women in the Quran is a requirement, justice?
When you legitimate something so horrible such as slavery, you are not guilty of committing a crime against humanity. Look at the historical Arab slave trade/markets, these fine rich righteous men had all been muslims yet openly bought and sold slaves.. You can post verse after verse from the Quran showing how it was only permissable under certain circumstances, but the truth is, the Quran allowed it and that was all that mattered for these bast#%ds.. For every male slave, there were two female slaves for the sole purpose of concubinage. The west learned slavery was horrible, and abolished it..don’t tell me Muslims were the first to abolish slavery… they did nothing, if anything, allowing slavery increased the number of slave markets.
Well, then what is Islam if it’s not politics? It was all politics to have control over people. The Quran talks more about what to do with prisoners than it talks about helping the poor. It talks more about sex, wives, punishments then it talks about how to maintain peace. It’s a book on rules of war, and what man needs to do to have full control over those beneath him. It talks so much about what needs to be done with nonbelievers and how to not be like them as if all nonbelievers are not humans. It warns believers against nonbelievers to a point where Muslims will not befriend a nonmuslim because it may “rub off” on him. Hell, I can pick up a land constitution even that is more just than what you call “Quran the ultimate guide”
Where do you see God in all this? Only a man would care so much about how to win a war, have multiple wives, divide property, what to do with war prisoners, blame Jews for everything, painful chastisement, hell fire, how to spend money, eat chicken only if it’s slaughtered by a believer, etc…
You cannot confine GOD! God is god. You don’t know what it is…
What Pope? Let me remind you, I don’t affiliate myself with any organized religion. No, I will never say I believe in Islam and Quran… I know this for sure now. But I will continue to provoke your thinking with my questions…
Sanity and my belief in humanity and justice.
There are two approaches to this.1) If the Quran was Muhammad’s invention then he could marry any number of women and if your belief in Allah’s apostle is so strong that whatever he did was ordained from God, then you would not blink twice even if he murdered a million people..
2) If the Quran’s interpretation is taken as it’s written, then he did violate it. I would rather believe this because this would prove at least that he was no more of a super human than we are. He was capable of making mistakes and he did make mistakes.
Good question! I have actually wondered about that so much that I don’t honestly know if there’s only one God. We don’t know our creator, for all we know, it could be some 4rth dimensional creature who drew us and the world and put us in it..and for every 4rth dimensional dweller, there must be a toy universe like ours that it plays with and hence he is the god of that universe. Who knows…really?
I sometimes wonder what if we all die and we leave the world and it turns out that every religion was indeed a true religion and there are multiple Gods and multiple heavens and hells. We will be asked what religion we believed in and if we satisfied the god we believed in then we would be sent to heaven. My imagination runs very very wild…
Nobody knows…
P.S. I know it is painfully long…sorry for going off on a tangent unnecessarily..