Mr. & Ms Right

Lifestyle Relationships
81

After you have worked for 27 years of your life then you can talk. You might to work 2 more decades to amass the experience. lol

82

im gonna hold u to that :snooty:

83

AE fact is Women are NOT equal to Men.....never have , never will be, that is how God created them ..........so all that talk about being equal doesn't wash , its feminists justifying themselves !

Some ppl don't need 2 decades to learn a simple lesson ....

84

Okay now you are contradicting yourself.

Either equal or not equal. If the man needs to provide for the household then he gets to wear the pants, and make most of the decisions and be the boss.

If you want equal rights...then most decision making process will be a tie, there will be more problems.

If you want to wear the pants and on top of that you want the man to provide, you need help....haha!

85

yep those are my views as well. we have rights....but they are different then men.

86

:hehe:

there are some women like that u know! lol

87

How am I contradicting myself ????

I said men should be providers & women the nuturers , and that men & women are not born equal .

I said if difficulties occur than yes the woman should pitch in and help with earning the money.

I asked what one should think or do when one comes across men who decide they want to sit on their lazy bums n let the woman earn for them ??

I think i'm being quite consistent !

Tsunami Reloaded
88

being the provider is different from wearing the pants tho sheyn. so i take it you think men should wear the pants?

The Hi/Bye Thread
The Hi/Bye Thread
89

Okay, then you also have to add that a woman has to live by the man's standards of living, and not the standard of living that was provided to her by her parents.

and islamically the mans responsibility is roti, kapra and makaan.

Not the mercedes, the mansion, and the mignon.

90

But it goes hand in hand.

Man = a woman subroutine would be like this.

Man wants woman = Yes

then
{

If provider = Yes
then Pants

If provider = No
then Skirt
}

Provider = Yes

Then Man = BOSS

-EOF Live happily ever after

91

fayax.....from my understanding (islamically speaking) a man that can not provide (at the least) a lifestyle that his wife was accustomed to when she was living with her parents....should not have married her in the first place. just something i recall reading.....correct me if im wrong.

and yes...the mercedes, mansion etc is just a luxury not a necessity. If he wants to gift it to her it should be out of love for her and because it is within his means to do so.

92

Re: Mr. & Ms Right

fayax, that’s cool. i used to write code like that back in the day. :@:

AE, have you found your Mr. right yet? :emmy:

Getting back with ex-husband
93

You are partially correct. That is recommended.

However a woman demanding more than a man can provide OR is willing to provide, is ruining her own marriage from within.

Also if a man and a woman deny eachother based on finances, i.e., I cant marry you cause you don't make enough money, then its a business deal and not a matter of the heart anyway.

In Japan its mostly like that btw. Its a business deal more than a marriage.

94

I think its one n the same thing .......

EXACTLY ..........islamically its the MAN's responsibility to provide the roti , kapra and makaan .

I rest my case !

95

mmm maybe :halo: :faizy:

yep…agreed. a woman that wants more then what a man can provide needs to get a damn job :smiley:

I dont think this was set forth as a business deal fayax…it’s just to prevent these things from happening in the first place.

women typically arent happy with what they have in the first place…so even if he can provide all the luxuries in the world…she will always want more. sad but true :bummer:

96

Actually, the bit in bold is not true:

‘Islam recognizes women as individuals with specific rights. Among these are: the right to life, the right to learn; the right to earn, own and dispose property; the right to choose a husband; the right, as a wife,** to her pre-marriage standard of living;** the right to be treated equally; and the right to inherit. Women, like men, are rewarded by God for a righteously led life.’

Source: http://www.discoverislam.com/poster.asp?poster=DIP2004_28&page=1

There are multiple other sources confirming this, check out Sunnipath or Islam Q&A for more info. It all comes under issues of compatibility and is v.logical when u think about it. If a man wants to live with his wife in the box room of mummy and daddy’s house his whole life he should find a wife who is willing to accept that (and it is not recommended to live with inlaws anyway), not one who has been used to having loads of her own space (and privacy) and then expect her to ‘put up or shut up’ under the guise of Islam. Imo us desis are by far the worst when it comes to giving the rights women are entitled to in Islam and if u say anything ur labelled a raging feminist..

97

no they arent. provider means he is providing his family with the essential day to day things (food, shelter, clothes).

wearing the pants means u have the upper hand in the decision making process. you are in total control of running the household etc. A man can provide but he doesnt necessarily have to wear the pants.

98

thanks…i was just saying the same but could not recall correctly what i read.

99

The right to "wearing the pants" comes from being the Principle breadwinner .

U cannot expect a man to earn and provide and then not to even have the upper hand in the decision making. That is just wrong !!!!!

100

Re: Mr. & Ms Right

^ ya right.