Thanks again guys. This was been a little helpful. We ll be going in as upper middle class. I might actually have more freedom as I won't be working for first couple of the years.
My wedding was in June and we stayed in lahore for about 2 months (so the whole summer) in lahore. Yes the heat and the load shading is killer BUT that's something we can over come or visit the US for summer :)
Again I can't and won't overlook my aging in laws. Also, as I mentioned and most have agreed, right now would be a better time to move thn later since my kid is a toddler.
CPA2011 we are thinking to rent out our house here in Texas... but if it doesn't for the whole mortgage + tax amount....we ll have to sell it.
Thanks again guys. This was been a little helpful. We ll be going in as upper middle class. I might actually have more freedom as I won't be working for first couple of the years.
My wedding was in June and we stayed in lahore for about 2 months (so the whole summer) in lahore. Yes the heat and the load shading is killer BUT that's something we can over come or visit the US for summer :)
Again I can't and won't overlook my aging in laws. Also, as I mentioned and most have agreed, right now would be a better time to move thn later since my kid is a toddler.
CPA2011 we are thinking to rent out our house here in Texas... but if it doesn't for the whole mortgage + tax amount....we ll have to sell it.
Try your best not to sell it. In the future if you want to move back, it will be a great advantage to already have a place. Say you don't want to move back, maybe your kid will want to go to the US in the future, will be helpful for him/her, to have a place. See if you can refinance, to get the payments to a point where the house can pay for itself. If you spend a couple of years there, and the back and forth, it will be hard to get to a point to buy another house, so don't risk that.
Its really great that you care so much about your inlaws, and I understand that family comes first and elderly people will be hesitant to move to the US since they have lived in Pakistan their whole life. However, frankly speaking, they would have a better life here. They can go to the mall and "people watch" they can go on a walk, medical service is much better here as well. In the future, they might want to come here so you don't want to risk not having a house.
Be very very careful about schools. Most Schools for well offs are making kids very open minded these days. I have been there recently, and I have been very disappointed with how things are moving about raising kids and what they are learning from school and friends. My kids were surprised at quite a few things. They go to Islamic school here, and they had some ideas about pakistan religiously and were taken offgaurd by tv, and other kids their age.
Try your best not to sell it. In the future if you want to move back, it will be a great advantage to already have a place. Say you don't want to move back, maybe your kid will want to go to the US in the future, will be helpful for him/her, to have a place. See if you can refinance, to get the payments to a point where the house can pay for itself. If you spend a couple of years there, and the back and forth, it will be hard to get to a point to buy another house, so don't risk that.
Its really great that you care so much about your inlaws, and I understand that family comes first and elderly people will be hesitant to move to the US since they have lived in Pakistan their whole life. However, frankly speaking, they would have a better life here. They can go to the mall and "people watch" they can go on a walk, medical service is much better here as well. In the future, they might want to come here so you don't want to risk not having a house.
Cpa2011 my hubby is a CPA as well ...thinks just like you regarding the money :)
So would you consider it? My husband is the only son and told me on our first date that if my in-laws didn't want to move to the US, we would have to move back. Now that we have been married for almost 4 years (first date was almost 9 years ago Alhumdulilah!) the topic has come up again. I have NO issues moving back...but want to hear if anybody has experience it? I am a little nervous of the unknown…
We have a toddler and I think now would be a better time than later. Once the kiddos are older it would be harder for them to adjust to that lifestyle. What do you think?
Nothing is final, just a discussion.
My brothers are planning to move back to Pakistan and my hubby want to do the same in next 5 years. We have been out of Pakistan for 18 years.
Pakistan is fun for holidays. its also g8 that you can wear designer lawn and go with fashion. Each everything as it HALAL.
but living permanently especially if you are leaving behind a well settled life seems hard. I know i will miss Sydney, my street and ofcourse my house. I can not get over this point.
my main concern is drs and hospitals. very bad even expensive ones.
bt goodluck if we move we will move to islamabad too.
I've given my feedback on this topic, quite a few times on this forum. I think it was somewhere in travel & tourism forum.
Anyways, without going in detail, I'd say, we moved back 6 years ago. We are in Islamabad, with 4 kids mashaAllah. My eldest was 9 when we moved and youngest was just 6 months old. And we have no plans to move out of Pakistan, inshaAllah. No place will offer you a problem free life and you get a fair share of ups and downs everywhere. I'd say, it's the matter of your priorities.
As a mother of four children, I am happy and satisfied alhamdulillah.
I would just to say many are living here and good lives too. There are different issues living abroad and different ones living at home. But nothing beats living in the homeland
OP, I don't think asking here will do you any good.
LOLZ.
I would never be able to. Actually, my parents tried it with us when we were young, it wasn't good at all. we ended up moving back after a short time.
^another agenda-driven post
Btw you guys were young when your parents moved to pakistan, stayed there for a short time and then moved back, and your mom used to be an ob/gyn in pakistan. Becoming an ob/gyn in pakistan alone is not possible before the age of 28-29 and it requires few more years of experience and practice to know more about business. The 4-5 years ob/gyn speciality training programs are conducted at government hospitals where you are never approached for illegal stuff.
I've given my feedback on this topic, quite a few times on this forum. I think it was somewhere in travel & tourism forum.
Anyways, without going in detail, I'd say, we moved back 6 years ago. We are in Islamabad, with 4 kids mashaAllah. My eldest was 9 when we moved and youngest was just 6 months old. And we have no plans to move out of Pakistan, inshaAllah. No place will offer you a problem free life and you get a fair share of ups and downs everywhere. I'd say, it's the matter of your priorities.
As a mother of four children, I am happy and satisfied alhamdulillah.
Great to hear that. n i will be contacting you if we do go thru this move :)
OP, go with open mind. Keep in mind that it will be very different from your US lifestyle. Remember you will lose somethings and gain. It really depends how you look at your experience.
you’re hilarious.
lol is there a reason why you must get so personal with my posts? do i really bother you that much that you must look at all my posts in ll the the threads and try to figure out how my life must be? this is so sad, i mean really, you need to get a life.
but since you’re so interested in my life, ill just tell you. my parents were born and raised in pakistan. my mother has practiced in pakistan, saudi, and US. why is it so hard to understand? why do you care so much about my personal life i dont understand? stop being obsessed.
oh and yes you’re right, there is absoluetly NO illegal things in pakistan. :halo:
please stop obsessing over me and making yourself look like such a fool. just because you have nothing sensible to contribute ever, doesn’t mean you should always come up with such idiotic personal remarks.
i love how you run away from actual debate threads but always love to make personal attacks and remarks against me in various threads. very mature.
Afia we are in the same boat, planning to move back to Pakistan in this coming year, I have 3 kids almost same age as your children that's why I am particularly asking you, my eldest one will be 11, then 9 and my baby will be 5 IA, how easy it will be for them to adjust there? btw we are moving to Lahore and how much monthly income you need to live a comfortable life there? Thanks
I've been thinking of retiring there in Karachi. But a little apartment or a townhouse. It'll be pricey though real estate is not cheap there. And then just die there.
I've been thinking of retiring there in Karachi. But a little apartment or a townhouse. It'll be pricey though real estate is not cheap there. And then just die there.
but seriously cons are every where, dying alone in a nursing home or dying in your apartment in Pakistan in agony on a couch calling 15 at the other end and no one picking up.
But don't sweat it, hopefully you will be married inshallah with your grandkids by your side