Motives for Leaving Pakistan--split from Proud Pakistani

no u did not say it, but I wanted to make sure I understood you properly.

truth is bitter, and the truth is that usually the kids that go over the top are kids from upstart families and usually recent arrivals. kids of educated families of a decent background usually live in a proper way.

as far as definition of an idiot, an idiot pakistani kid overseas will do stupid things that just hurt him/her really..and what is it drinking, clubbing, boyfriend, girlfriends?

idiots in Pakistan range from these activities (I myseklf have gone to parties in pakistan with booze, drugs and strippers present much to my surprise), those who are harassing girls in bazaars (please go to tariq road in karachi for chand raat), violent political groups (although that has seemed to pipe down), patronage of places like lee market and shahi mohalla (they are not in business due to visiting expats)