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Stop playing the premature baby card, we’re talking about women that choose c sections out of choice cause they don’t want to have a natural birth
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I do love how you ignore all my questions. Fine…let’s leave aside the UNNATURAL rescuing of premature babies.
According to YOU, it’s natural for a woman to give birth and they have been evolved that way. Then why do we encourage woman to get pre-natal care and give birth in a medical environment? Why is C-section, epidural, antibiotics etc. are even options? Why do we not tell women to simply stay at home during labor/birth and let things happen b/c after all…their bodies have evolved that way and the entire process is natural?
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I have friends who were not able to bf their babies though they wanted to…it was either due to the baby not taking well to it or health issues, etc. I have not done extensive research but I’ve heard/read the mother’s milk is more beneficial for the baby and for the mother as well as it helps to lose weight, etc. This, of course doesn’t mean it’s easy, it can be uncomfortable, even painful. My opinion may change once I go through the experience, but right now I lean toward nursing because if there are no major issues or impediments, then why not give your child the best option to the best of your ability? Mayhaps my views are premature, pun fully intended, but for now these are my 2 cents.
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What does it matter how she gives birth? Why the need to judge her for not having a natural birth as long as the baby is ok
Maybe we should stop taking meds too because they’re not natural.. or prenatal vitamins.. or painkillers 
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Doctors only assist during pregnancu and child birth, but c sections and formula are radically different and unnatural,if it ain’t broke don’t fix it, why would a healthy woman choose something unnatural for herself and her child?it’s probably cause she’s selfish #nuffsaid
woh aye troll bann ke
hum behaal hogaye jawab de de kay.
ladies… SENSE it!
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But WHY? You wrote earlier that its “natural for women to give birth, they’ve been evolved that way.” So if this is a natural process and women’s bodies are made for it, why do doctors need to assist during pregnancy and child birth?
Good question. 
I may someday be able to answer that since being a woman, I may actually manage get pregnant/give birth. For you, I guess you’ll just always have to depend on what others tell you. You know I wonder about random things too. For example, why do some men give so much thought to what other men’s wives choose to do with their breasts and vaginas. It makes sense if a man is also a OB/GYN but otherwise…its just creepy.
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Some info in support of what you said. 
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Paheli, I think Harappan may have expressed himself in a better way but I get irritated with the incensed reaction from women sometimes…because they react as though another person’s opinion somehow invalidates their reproductive organs, the conception of their child, the entire pregnancy, the labor process and its aftermath, and heck maybe even the existence of their children and all the sacrifices of motherhood. Seriously…I hear fingers snapping and a collective “you tell him! Mmmmhhmm” in the back of my head…yes, it’s in a Black accent…and no, I have nothing against Blacks…but in my head that’s what it sounds like. Why let it have that much power? I think that it’s harder for guys to understand…much harder for a guy to understand than females who have never given birth, so again, why let it have that much power? He’s not gonna get it. He may have a wife in the future who will one day have his kids and he still won’t be able to understand the female experience from periods to birthing to nursing to menopause despite being a doctor.
Harappan, there’s a saying that, “Paalne waala paida karne walay se bara hota hai”…“The one who raised you is higher than the one who birthed you.” Motherhood doesn’t end with birth. And it cannot be easily said that women who delivered a certain way love their children more…or feel more for their children. You’ll always find exceptions. Many times adoptive mothers show more love and selflessness and devotion than the biological mothers. You can suggest what method you feel is best with supporting reasons for your opinion from the medical perspective, but it’s better to avoid putting a label on the overall equation that mother has with her child.
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I study science, so I just gave my 2 cents of what is correct, I don’t care if you get a mastectomy or do whatever you want with your private parts.
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thats because men are sissies and wimps when it comes to pain.
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Oh I get irritated by women’s reactions too lol. I don’t see it as giving them power. If I hear someone make racist comments in front of me, I speak up b/c its wrong. Similarly IMO its wrong to stay quiet when a man is saying that women who choose Csections are selfish (i.e. implying that they’re not good mothers) or that women who choose not to breastfeed are someone inferior to women who do. I don’t expect a man to understand what its like to go through pregnancy, childbirth, recovery, breastfeeding etc. But I do expect a man to shut up and be supportive of a woman’s choices UNLESS there is a prove direct causation b/t a woman’s behavior and harm to her child. That whole experience is already a difficult, emotional, and scary experience for many women. Men like Harappan and Iamright only make matters worse.
And there’s nothing for Harappan to express in a better way. He think women who choose Csections or not breastfeed are selfish. There really isn’t a better or more clear way to express that.
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Give your two cents without putting a label on the overall equation that mother has with her child. Calling the mother selfish is basically calling the overall equation with her child a selfish one and no mother wants to be seen that way. The sacrifices that go into parenting can’t be simplified.
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Yes, and I’m sure every woman reading this truly appreciates a male science student sharing his 2 cents on what HE FEELS is correct when it comes to childbirth and breastfeeding. And come now…don’t pretend you don’t care. You’re already on childbirth and breastfeeding…may as well give your 2 cents on what is correct on mastectomies too. 
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Nah, it was not the best way and we can agree to disagree on that. If he’s using medical science as his source, then he can explain it with references from that source…rather than..the way it was done. Like you, I haven’t given birth…the thought of it terrifies me…especially the stitches bit and the ones in c-sections seem less scary than the ones in natural birth. Again this is my perception without experience. I don’t know what the Islamic stance is…my guess is that it leans toward natural delivery unless there are complications. So, I lean toward natural delivery and nursing, or the method that has the most benefits for mother and child from the medical and religious perspective… but kehna is always easier than karna and sometimes. The latter may sometimes not be possible depending on circumstances. Anyhow, sorry if my previous response to you was offensive.
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No one is saying that women who give their babies formula are bad mothers. We are not passing judgement here. I know of a few mothers who really wanted to bf but for reasons beyond their control, it just did not work out so they ended up giving formula. They are wonderful mothers. Most mothers will do the best they can for this kids - we all know this (especially if you are a mother yourself).
What we are saying is that when you bring a newborn home from the hospital and do not even TRY to bf for a second and go straight to formula from the get-go, you are not even giving your child the chance to have the extra added immunity and wonderful health benefits that breast milk provides. Breastfeeding is also clearly very encouraged in Islam.
Also, many formula fed babies end up being perfectly healthy too. We don’t want mothers of formula fed babies to feel bad about their decision or circumstances. It’s just that as a mother, why wouldn’t you at least TRY your best to do what is clearly the more healthier choice for the baby? Doctors, nurses, governments ALL push for mothers to breastfed. There is clearly a reason for this. There are sooooo many campaigns out there encouraging women to breastfeed. Even formula containers will still remind you that breastfeeding is reccomended etc. You’d have to be living under a rock to not understand how important and healthy it is for your child.
I know SO many mothers who did not give up without a fight. They struggled for WEEKS sometimes MONTHS before they switched to formula. Some of these mothers were so upset they couldn’t breastfeed, they CRIED. As a mother you want the absolute BEST for your baby!
I too had issues with latching etc. and I had a very fussy, high needs baby. It was NOT easy at all. It was very hard, but I wasn’t going to give up without a fight and alhumdolilah, eventually we figured it out.
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This thread is simply about getting one over the other and not a discussion over the best route to feeding babies. tsk tsk…
Ladies. Kudos to you for breast feeding. Really. But at some point you are all making parenting decisions that can be questioned by others so don’t forget those moments.
I don’t like the negative tone at all regarding this super personal decision. As if the breast feeding moms are perfect and the ones who didn’t just don’t care. It’s hurtful and I’m not even experienced in this regard.
As to the dude who came into this thread for chaskay…your opinion means diddly squat because you can’t understand a woman. If you did you would never say such things. If you had a clue about what your mama had to go through to deliver you, you’d be ashamed of saying such things. But no…here you are and we are to forgive you because you’re nasamaj and a man who can’t get it.
It’s lack of proper education and of course many other things.
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God/nature has equipped mothers with the ability to give the greatest of gifts to their babies.
It is an immense responsibility that should be discharged with utmost sincerity and seriousness.
It poses challenges, is hard, requires patience and sacrifice but it is probably not meant to be easy, even though it is debatable whether nursing is more of a hassle than bottle feeding.
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^ If all things go as they’re supposed to, it’s actually remarkably easy. But it doesn’t always work out that way.