In world history-Adolf Hitler
In world history related to subcontinent- Winston Churchill
pre-independent India- Aurangzeb
post independent India- trio of contemporaries-ZAB,Indira, mujib and their progeny
Jumman Chacha...:)mere gaaoN meN baRe controversial the aur merii dunyaa us waqt sirf meraa gaaoN hii thaa! :p :D
Sirf jumman chacha, algu chacha nahin, referring to story of jumman sheikh and algu chowdhary, story of poorvanchal
u should open thread about sikh-pashtun wars......
i saw some insulting comments about pashtun brothers.....
u no sikh general hari singh nalwa
indeed, my great great grandfather died fighting with them in fort of sargarhi, in the battle of saragrhi in 1897
In world history-Adolf Hitler
In world history related to subcontinent- Winston Churchill
pre-independent India- Aurangzeb
post independent India- trio of contemporaries-ZAB,Indira, mujib and their progeny
I have almost same list of persons in mind when we talk about being controversial. We can't restrict the concept of someone's being controversial that he/she was bad, but it means how different people oppose or support the life of those persons.
For me, Aurangzeb and Akbar are more controversial than other personalities of the subcontinent as these are equally liked / disliked by different people.
Zia ul Haq also meets this criteria. He was loved and called Mard e Momin by a faction of society and at the same time he is probably one of most hated persons of Pakistan.
I have almost same list of persons in mind when we talk about being controversial. We can't restrict the concept of someone's being controversial that he/she was bad, but it means how different people oppose or support the life of those persons.
For me, Aurangzeb and Akbar are more controversial than other personalities of the subcontinent as these are equally liked / disliked by different people.
Zia ul Haq also meets this criteria. He was loved and called Mard e Momin by a faction of society and at the same time he is probably one of most hated persons of Pakistan.
Neither I consider any of them bad. As for aurangzeb and akbar. Akbar is the only king after ashoka the great who was given the title "The great" by historians of all ages, A Shenshah and king has a duty to perform and Akbar was the most tolerant towards the subjects he ruled, he wasn't thoroughly religious, instead wanted to form a religion, Din-i-illahi, which was against Islam, it can be argued that he wasn't muslim even. but to me, religion is personal thing, His rule as a king when compared to Aurangzeb hardly had any revolt. religion alone should not be a criteria of someone greatness, Jinnah wasn't religious in his initial life, Kemal Ataturk had all anti islamic bad habits, but are they controversial in their respective countries to that extent akbar the great is?
ZAB, according to me as an outsider, was the only Pakistani leader who had vision for Pakistan, nuclear armament to economic growth he tried everything he could for Pakistan, while every Pakistani leader tried to fixed his today including Zia, he was the only one who had eyes on tomorrow, This is why I appreciate IK, he has a vision for tomorrow, why care if in personal life he is muslim or not if he benefits the society and country of Pakistan like our visionary leader APJ Abdul Kalam who had given us a dream of being superpower or most controversial PM of India, PVN Rao, because of whom today we have economic might.
Genghis Khan anyone? I mean he and his followers destroyed so much civilization and single handedly might have been responsible for ending the islamic golden age in the middle east, yet there is a lot to learn from mongolian administrative and war fighting skills.
Genghis Khan anyone? I mean he and his followers destroyed so much civilization and single handedly might have been responsible for ending the islamic golden age in the middle east, yet there is a lot to learn from mongolian administrative and war fighting skills.
Yes this man contributed a lot to destruction of civilization and end of Abbasid caliphate in Iraq and Central Asian states. No doubt Mongolian administration played major role in the success and plunder, but the Muslim rulers and overall society in those countries had also deteriorated mainly due to sectarian issues. People were engaged in Manzras (debates) on petty differences between Shia / Sunni instead of doing something against the danger posed by Mongols.
On one side, Mongols were ravaging the cities of the region and on other side there were people like Hassan Bin Sabah, who did contribute to the destruction by their intolerant theories and murdering the religious scholars who opposed their agenda.
^True..and good you reminded me coz am going to watch the movie on him on Netflix.
Which movie you are going to watch. I recently watched a movie in Russian / Mongolian language on Genghis Khan, that mainly dealt with his childhood and the sufferings of the man, before he was able to take revenge of those sufferings from the others. I found the movie as based on some folklore of Mongolia, where the man is treated like a hero.
Which movie you are going to watch. I recently watched a movie in Russian / Mongolian language on Genghis Khan, that mainly dealt with his childhood and the sufferings of the man, before he was able to take revenge of those sufferings from the others. I found the movie as based on some folklore of Mongolia, where the man is treated like a hero.
That might be the same one...its called "Mongol"...more parts are meant to follow this movie...but am not sure if these parts have been released or not...
Hitler believe it or not opposed the zionist system - hence why he tried to wipe out the jews. However he was misguided cuz you have to differentiate jews from Zionists. Its a completely different ball game. Im not trying to justify what he did.
p.s He only had one testicle - probably why he was soo pissed off all the time and had anger management issues
If we look at Indo-Pak history, there are many people like Akbar-e- Azam, Aurangzeb, Ranjeet Singh who are liked/ supported by many and disliked/ hated by many others.
Who do you think is the most controversial person in the history of world?
General Parvaiz Musharraf :D
Saddam Hussain was a hero during 1991 gulf war. I remember seeing his posters everywhere in Pakistan. People started naming their children Saddam. No one at that time could thought that he would be ended like that.
how we forgot him. Probably, when we say history, we start thinking about past and dead persons.
Saddam Hussein 
