Mosque at a disputed site

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Islam does not allow offering Namaz at a disputed site.

There are two controversial mosques, one at Mathura and one at Kashi in India.

In Kashi (Varanasi), many worshiping places of other communities exist, like Sikh Guruduwaras, Christian Churches etc, but they are not constructed at any disturbing location. But a Muslim emperor had to build a Mosque in the **entire centre of Hindu worshiping place **, after destroying some portion of the most ancient Hindu Shiva temple.

**No survey is needed to understand the incorrect location of this mosque. ** A simple visit to the Mosque/ Temple site is enough to find out the reality.

The condition at Mathura is not different, where ancient Krishna temple was destroyed by Aurangzeb and he created a Mosque in order to humiliate the feelings of Hindu majority.

Islam does not allow offering Namaz at a disputed site. Why Muslims are so antagonistic to accept the rulings of Islam and cannot remove these disputed Mosques?

Given below is a pro-Hindu site and I have mentioned it only to check the dates and nothing else.

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Im no expert on Islam, but I've never heard of the "disputed site" thingy...I guess a mosque with its own purity will serve to clean a locality riddled with non-Islamic ideas? A mosque in a disputed site is better than no mosque at all.

BTW: What do you mean by disputed site? A locality where idol worship occurs? Thatd make the whole world a "disputed site".

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when jerusalem was captured by muslims under the calipahte of Umar (ra) , the christians there asked the muslim army to call their caliph to hand over the keys of the city directly to him, so Umar (ra) went there, and the priests called him to offer prayers (salaat) in their holy place, but he refused saying that later muslims might take this as an excuse to build a mosque over their holy place....
so he prayed in a place which no religion held sacred then....

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quite ridiculous links to say the least

It seems like Auranzeb had nothing else to do and all his life he held a hammer in his hands and his sole aim was to destroy hindu temples :bash: :halo:

Badshahi masjid in Lahore is also Known to be built by Auranzeb Alamgir, for a long time it was the biggest masjid in the world Now i doubt that it must be a hindu temple in the past :ahaa: say what ? plus There is a historical city Aurangabad named after Auranzeb… So logically All the building there must be former temples ???

Now what can i say about the absolute nonesense.

If you call this BS research, then Hindu fanatic can claim every masjid and every monument, their temples

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/\/\/\/*Code_Red * All kind of hard core Hindu nationalist (and even fanatic) parties are asking only for three structures, Ayodhya, Mathura and Kashi and not for 10000 or more structures.

Can you assure me that Muslims have never attacked and destroyed worship places of other communities throughout history???

P N Oak is not a known or popular writer in India.

Here I am talking for ** Ayodhya, Mathura and Kashi** sites, because these places have been the centre of Hindu religious sentiments and feelings for centuries.

Why do Muslims reject the rulings of Islam that………offering Namaz at a disputed site is prohibited, or ‘we follow ours and you follow yours???

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You need some spanking here which of course I am gonna do :D

As far as Namaz is concerned, there is no concept of "disputed site"...

This concept comes in ONLY when some terrorist hardliner fundamentalist Hindus want to revive "Hindutva"

When some narrow minded person wants to make an anti-Islam thread, only yhen then concept of "disputed site" comes in.

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Oh look, the Hindu nationalist's have learned a new trick.

Now, all of a sudden, all mosques will certainly find themselves on 'disputed' sites.

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Isn't the Masjid in Mecca on a disputed site?

Does Islam Allow a mosque at a disputed site? can anyone confirm?

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What is your source for this, I have never heard of anything like this before.

Regardless of that what is your point, I have never read a single historical book which indicate what you have suggested. Do you have any third party reference so it can be conformed. Your reference of Mr. Oak is debatable because of his origins, same as we have lot of fanatics in my country, who will not hesitate at all to make up some historical event to raise political issue.

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Good question. And now I am myself interested to find out the realities if Islam allows offering Namaz at a disputed site, if a disputed site is not considered a Napakq place for offering Namaz?

So far you can read following…

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As usual now they all want to divert the issue if Namaz is allowed at a disputed site?

And what everyone here has deliberately avoided is.....In Kashi (Varanasi) many other religious places belonging to non-Hindu religions exist, like Sikh Gurudwaras, Churches etc, but the Mosque built by Aurangzeb is existing in the entire centre , adjacent to the ancient Shiva temple and is surrounded by Hindu temples only.

For this Mosque you do not need any survey or research...just a look at it is enough to understand the barbarous act of a Muslim emperor.

What was the need to build a Mosque in the centre of another religious community???

Is it a historical mistake?

Does Islam allow destruction of other’ worship places to build a Mosque?

Situation at Mathura is not different.

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Anjan - Since when you have become a spokesman for fanatics ?

If you are acting as their ambasedor and have provided the link to that nonesense website then please stand by it and endorse the utter BS and venom spited out against muslims in that link We can not take the dates as word of God and ignore the rest of crap :flower1: dont ack like a chicken

Disputed site …hmmm

Holy Kaba in Mecca is disputed site according to hindu researchers of the same caliber as Mr. P N Oak, Shall we resolve that dispute first ? no ?

Sir, what is so wrong if a masjid was built adjacent to ancient Shiva Temple, when there are worship places of of other religions, I hope it has nothing to with Muslim hatred in mera bharat mahaan :frowning:

Same way as the origin of Taj Mahal is a historical mistake ! According to your great researcher if its name had been Taz Mahal then everything would have been fine and dandy for him. idiot !

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hahah on a side note, some indian told me once that hindus also have claims to the kabbah cuz there were some idols there at one point..
:rotfl:

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Since you all are interested in knowing , let me tell you briefly.

There is nothing wrong in offereing Namaz at any place in this world. Allah has bestowed upon muslims the right to offer prayers at any place, be it plain ground, fields, roads, mandir, church or any place wheresoever.

Napak, means "unclean". A place would be napak if it is filthy, for example with animal/human urine etc, which can washed easily.

*For example uper caste hindu consider lower caste hindus Untouchable Forever. But in Islam Nothing is napak, permanently. If a person is Napak, that would be due to his/her state of uncleanliness, not due to his/her origin. *

Secondly, Accordiing to Islamic Law, It is not allowed to convert worship places of other religion into masjid. But there is absolutely no harm in building masjid adjacent to a mandir or churches or synagogue. There are countless examples of these type of arrangements around the muslim world. If some Muslim rulers destroyed /converted worship places of other religions, his actions were indeed wrong and unislamic

*If we pay heeds to statement like these from mad-dogs *

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During their rule they looted and destroyed hundereds of thousands of Hindu temples.
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Then logically there should have been I billion Muslims in India, but as per fact hindus are in majority and their worship places intact, it makes little sense in reading these so called facts ...

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Yes, P N Oak is a writer to fulfill the thirst of fanatic Muslims to locate Muslim-haters wherever possible. You can quote him at your madrisas for creating more fanatics. We have nothing to do with him.

What is right in creating a Mosque after demolishing an ancient Hindu temple?

You call me a Muslim hater because I have raised some questions about a Mosque at Kashi created after destroying a portion of ancient Hindu temple and in the entire centre of Hindu worship places.

Can any one assure me that Muslims have never destroyed any worship places throughout history???

Ps, for your information all Sikh Gurudwaras and Churches in Kashi are not created after demolishing any temple or they are not situated at any disturbing location unlike your Mosque.

betrayed
betrayed
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Thousand times I have come across this statement but when the question comes to Ayodhya, Kashi and Mathura they start a different tune.

A laughable double standard!

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^^ Someone here lacks the most basic level of social conciousness. Translation: Know when you're making an ass of yourself on a huge public forum.

I can coin a thousand half truths about some religion and lay the burden of evidence on the followers of that faith.

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Mr. Anjan - why are you trying to convince us ? Bomb them, buldoze them and Why stop at only 3 ? complete the count of 10,000. Make krishna Shiva , Om , Kaali temples at these sites of ancient temples :k:

Why should I care ? It is your country Do whatever you like. Go ahead and destruct them like you did to Babri masjid, to find 100,000 year old temples in its foundation

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Mr. Anjan - Lets say that some ruler from our religion did something wrong in the past. While you are saying it was wrong would you go and start repeating the same mistake.
If your answer is Yes - Then it does not matter what somebody says or not, you already had an intent to do so from the begining, are you looking for some kind of approval from us.
If your answer is No - Then I would like to ask your intentions to bring this topic on the forum. Are you trying to spread hatred, correct me if I am wrong but this is how I percieve it.
But hey its just me maybe my perception is wrong.

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Code_Red **and **Light Bearer has summed it all up. *anjjan *- India is our country and we have to take care of it first. Taking care of India means we have to take care of every Indian - be it hindu or muslim or sikh or christian.
The day we do something silly like buldozing some Masjid without the consent of muslim community, that will be the sadest day for India and for Hinduism and it will be the happiest day for our ill-wishers.

If we try hard enough, if we act like Ram would want us to act, then a day will come when our muslim bhai will come and say - Ram Mandir is yours, take it, but that day I doubt we will even want to demolish the masjid and build temple there. Before that I don't even want it back. I do not even think Lord Ram would want his JAMNBHOOMI back with violence or force.