More than third of U.S. Muslims see war on Islam

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20041019-115241-3792r.htm

More than one-third of American Muslims believe that the U.S. war on terrorism is really a war on Islam, according to survey information released yesterday by researchers at Georgetown University.

Thirty-eight percent of American Muslims polled said they believe the U.S.-led invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, and the tensions with Iran and Syria, reflect a foreign policy that is targeting Islamic countries and Muslims themselves.

An additional 33 percent of Muslims interviewed said they believe the United States is fighting a war on terrorism, and 29 percent said they were not sure.

The telephone survey of 1,846 randomly chosen Muslims was conducted in August and September by Zogby International for the Project on Muslims in the American Public Square, a project run out of Georgetown’s Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding.
The poll follows up a study conducted two months after the September 11 attacks, which found that 67 percent of American Muslims believed that the United States was fighting a war on terror. An additional 18 percent of Muslims said the U.S. war was against Islam, and 16 percent said they were not sure.

Survey director Zahid Bukhari said that negative comments about Islam since 2001 by evangelical Christian leaders such as the Revs. Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and Franklin Graham, and the White House’s close association with these leaders, has added to the perception of a war on Islam, despite President Bush’s remarks that Islam is a religion of peace.

Still, Mr. Bukhari said, American Muslims are considering this issue more carefully than their religious counterparts in the Middle East, where most consider the United States to be waging a war against Islam.

American Muslims “are becoming more objective, more mature, instead of [engaging in] Muslim world behavior. The Muslim world is very emotional,” he said. American Muslims “are responding that they should be more involved in society.”

The survey also found that 63 percent of American Muslims are dissatisfied with “the way things are going in American society today.” That question was not asked in 2001.

There were minor increases from the 2001 survey in the number of Muslims registered to vote and likely to vote. Eighty-two percent of Muslims said they were registered, compared with 79 percent in 2001. Among those registered, 95 percent said they were likely to vote, compared with 94 percent in 2001.

The poll found that Muslims solidly support Democratic Sen. John Kerry for president, though they had strongly backed Mr. Bush in the 2000 election.

Because of the USA Patriot Act and concerns over civil liberties, researchers said, 76 percent of Muslims are voting for Mr. Kerry, compared with 7 percent for Mr. Bush. The 2001 survey found that 42 percent of American Muslims voted for Mr. Bush in 2000, and 31 percent voted for Vice President Al Gore.

However, the self-reports on voting in 2000 were reversed in the 2004 survey. In the more recent poll, 38 percent of respondents said they had voted for Mr. Gore, and 27 percent said they had voted for Mr. Bush.

At least some were able to choose their boat……
* Row row , row your boat , gently down the stream…*

Hmmm, sounds about right to me based on what I've seen here on GUPSHUP

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However, the self-reports on voting in 2000 were reversed in the 2004 survey. In the more recent poll, 38 percent of respondents said they had voted for Mr. Gore, and 27 percent said they had voted for Mr. Bush.
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Well that's interesting. Are american muslims who voted for Bush last time ashamed to the point that they are now being dishonest about it? tsk tsk, just admit that you voted for the guy "that wasn't w/the jew"

On a serious note …Democracy means Might is right, if a Country has a clear divide between its population due to ethnicity etc Then the minority will always suffer, They can then vote not to change governments but clear their conscience.

So I would suggest that American Muslims vote for **Mickey Mouse,* At least they will succeed in appeasing Walt Disney.*

Walt told me from his cryogenic chamber that Mickey Mouse has his heart set on being Khalif, which I think makes more sense. It's all make believe...

As I’ve said many times before, if American Moslems don’t like it here they can go back to Africa. :crusader:

Underthecross, you are absolutely wrong. In a democracy the minority section is more dominant. Minority section usually votes in bulk in favor of one or the other side. Whereas the majority section vote is always remains divided.
In many instances the minority section in a democracy misuses the citizen rights.

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Well that's interesting. Are american muslims who voted for Bush last time ashamed to the point that they are now being dishonest about it? tsk tsk, just admit that you voted for the guy "that wasn't w/the jew"
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oh i love the "holier than thou attitude". How many of your fellow fundos would vote for an american muslim prez candidate? (no matter what his/her agenda is)

This post is not about whether American Muslims like here or not. It’s about what they think of US war on terror. They have a right to disagree. That doesn’t not mean that they have to leave this country just because they don’t agree with US foreign policies. If every one who disagrees with this administration starts going to Africa US population will cut in half. By the way, majority of Muslims in America are from Indian sub continent not from Africa.

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The headline is for pure sensationalism. It could have said 70% American Muslims DO NOT think this is war on Islam. Read on for my specific reply.

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More than one-third of American Muslims believe that the U.S. war on terrorism is really a war on Islam,

according to survey information released yesterday by researchers at Georgetown University.

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A jack-a$$ (khota) headline to a jack-a$$ survey.

Islam is an idea, and no one can declare war against a mere idea.

Sure one can ask "Has USA declared war on Muslim?", the answers would have been a bit more to the point.

The response is relative easy to formulate as well. One can look at the upper limits on numbers by assuming that out of 10 million US Muslims, 10,000 illegals locked up (or questioned) post 9/11.

This is 0.1% American Muslims directly effected by the Patriot act or other Bush policies. This should hardly be considered "war on American Muslims".

Now some guppies would say we should look at the number from Muslim world. Well that is not difficult either.

Total population of Afghanistan (20 mil) + Iraq (20 mil) + Iran (60 mil) + Syria (10 mil) + Palestinians (10 mil) makes a total of 120 million. Make it 150 million to a round figure. For 2 billion estimated Muslims this turns out to be 7.5% maximum.

If Bush policies impacted 0.1% American Muslims and 7.5% oversees Muslims, it would be hard to justify statements like "War on Muslims".

p.s. Off course if you just count MAToos, 100% are impacted so we can say Bush has launched "war on MAToos".

Just vote for whoever you want. It's your right. Besides, considering what's going on in Iraq and Afghanistan it's not as if anyone cares about the Muslim vote anyway.

Only 2 states where Mulsims vote really count are Ohio and Michigan.

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Total population of Afghanistan (20 mil) + Iraq (20 mil) + Iran (60 mil) + Syria (10 mil) + Palestinians (10 mil) makes a total of 120 million. Make it 150 million to a round figure. For 2 billion estimated Muslims this turns out to be 7.5% maximum.

If Bush policies impacted 0.1% American Muslims and 7.5% oversees Muslims, it would be hard to justify statements like "War on Muslims".

p.s. Off course if you just count MAToos, 100% are impacted so we can say Bush has launched "war on MAToos".
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if we're gauging the extent of war on a people through the numbers directly impacted, what percent of americans died in 911 attacks?

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if we're gauging the extent of war on a people through the numbers directly impacted, what percent of americans died in 911 attacks?
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Aunty OBL (obnoxiously bored liberal)’s above post is so ridiculous that why you even bother responding to it. According to his logic Arab maatoos attacked only .01% American on 9/11. So America should not call it a war against terrorism.

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Aunty OBL (obnoxiously bored liberal)’s above post is so ridiculous that why you even bother responding to it.

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No personal attacks please! It's Ramzan time. (I thought every "obnoxiously bored liberal" is in Kerry's camp! May be not!)

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....According to his logic Arab maatoos attacked only .01% American on 9/11. So America should not call it a war against terrorism.
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9/11 is just one incident (though on a much grander scale) in a long series of MAToo Mulakhra (wrestling) with the world powers. Khobar, Kenya, Tanzania, Cole, and you can go through the long list.

That's why my dear little kerry supporter! we have a war on terrorism against the likes of Abdullah the Killer even in Pakistan. Go check the logic of MATOOs as to why they kidnapped and killed Chinese engineers. Off course it is all in the name of Mullah's Shariat. War on terrorism is similar to the war on mosquitoes (the malaria kind) or other diseases like smallpox, dysentery, and you name it. Just wait and we'll eradicate Mullahs just like we eradicated Taoon (black plague).

p.s. MATOOs never realized that a "panga" (wrestling) with 10 times bigger wrestler will surely result in broken ribs and much more.

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That's why my dear little kerry supporter!
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Dear little Kerry supporter? Hah who said that?
I am a big Bush hater, but that does not mean that I support Kerry either. But definitely Kerry is lesser evil.

UTC I think you mean Majority is authority not might is right. As far as American Muslim voting is concerned; it wouldn’t matter one bit whom they elect. I will give you an example I am an American and a Muslim. I would like to see US change its policies towards Muslim world, One would be a fool not to see the lopsidedness of US policy towards Mid-East. My state has senators, and congressmen/women (US and state) that are of Jewish faith. The congresswoman from our district wore a star of david pin after 9/11 (just bringing it up to show you her allegience). Now I would vote for her if she actually stood up for her constituents but she doesnt, here is the kicker, her opponent is also jewish and is more conservative than her.

The point that I am trying to make is that when 6 million israelis/jews run the lives of 270 million “proud” americans; a balanced US policy ain’t coming to a theater near you any time soon, no matter whom you elect.
So sitback, take a seat, relax and enjoy the democratic (a joke :nahnah: ) ride.

BTW if US were a true democracy then they should have allowed Ralph Nader in the Presidential debates (like they did for Ross Perot). I wonder why?:konfused:

Nader didn’t have the % needed in the polls to participate.

Do you blame the Jews for the bad economy as well? :rolleyes:

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I dont think u need a certain '% in the polls' to qualify to participate in a debate.

Yes you do, 15%, there are other requirements as well. You can't have every Tom, Dick, and Mohammed in the debates.