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Originally posted by Sarah Splendor:
Are you saying, then, that killing people is a humane act? That they should be punished because they committed a crime?
There would be no other way to spread the message that "killing" really hurts and a BIG crime.
Actually, in Islamic teachings, its upto victim's family to decide if the murderer should be killed or demand money as punishment.
To kill a murderer because the murderer killed would be to justify the murderer's actions, because the murderer killed too. What makes the killer of the murderer different from the murderer? Simply the fact that the murderer killed first.
How would you feel if someone murders member of your family and roams around freely? Second 'murderer' will not be considered as murderer if that is acheived through 'court of law'.
This is revenge, this is irrational.
Revenge would be when victim's family/friend/relative rise and kill the murderer.
If you follow Islam, 'qisas n diyat' law, 'killing for killing' may be avoided actually.
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If Allah asks me to kill a criminal (but being a girl, I wouldn't get divine messages, of course, you forgot that)
No, I didn't forget that. When I asked you that question, I assumed that you beleive in Quran as 'Divine Revelation'. In Quran Allah asked for adulterers to be killed.
I will not because that is wrong.
Yes, of course you have a choice of not following Allah's commands, but its upto you to ignore Allah and indirectly ask for HIS anger.
*Do you understand the value of human life?
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Do you understand more than Allah? Do you know human psychology more than the one who actually designed us?
Our body, our mind, our spirit, are all that we have in this world.
No. There is something called 'beleif', 'faith' which you can acquire and is more valuable than a BAD body, mind or spirit.
** Material possessions come and go, but the body, or a form of it anyway, is there with us as long as we live. It is inconcievable to imagine a life after this one. This, term papers, fights, our love life, are all that seem to matter, how can we deny somebody this, even if they did sin?
How can we justify the death of someone else, even if he is a cold-hearted person? It's wrong to kill, I would never do it, even if I had the power to do it, like if my husband ever cheated on me.**
Can you imagine your family slaughtered? How would you behave? May be you have a stone-heart and you'd say 'its okay, they all had to die one day'..... but majority of human-being does not have stone-heart, they have emotions, they have dependency, they have feelings, they have 'love' for each other etc. Many families have only one bread winner, how would they feel if their bread winner is killed? To them, that would be the end of the world.
I am not trying to alter an existing religion. But killing is wrong and no one can convince me otherwise. Humans should not have the right to take another's life, only Allah should, and when Allah does so, He does it because he sees fit.
How can YOU say about Allah? When Allah ordered us to give worldly part of punishment to criminals of society, why do you want to avoid being punished? why do you want to save criminals of society? why do you want to spread chaos in society?
My mother died when I was a kid, I know what death is like, don't tell me its justified in any circumstance, ok, because it isn't.
Everybody is bound to die in this world. We are talking about 'killing'. How would have you felt if she was murdered now right in front of you?
As for something wrong in the marriage, I meant that either partner may not have been happy. There may have been abuse, hurt, lack of intimacy and tenderness, whatever, the husband may have been an alcoholic, the wife may have been insane.
I'm not following you here, I don't know what you are talking about.
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We oughta be Changez like, don't we?