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Mats… that’s very uncivilized… That’s not what this country is all about. If they wana conduct tests, they can conduct those on citizens (it’s just a test)… implant something in Condi (shove something up her state dept), monitor other people, leave poor immigrants out of this nazi experimentation. They didnt do that to the Irish, the Italians, the Frogs, the Anglo-Saxons…why on the recent ones? This country was built by immigrants - illegal immigrants!
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Not trusting your government, amongst Western nations, seems to be a distinctly American trait.
One of my uncles in the USA, is utterly appalled by the fact that people in the UK did not give a damn that everything we do in public in urban areas is monitored by CCTV cameras.
People in Europe trust those watching us - Americans seem to have a problem with it.
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Well I don't trust the American government either, but I think Muslims/immigrants should raise a hue and cry only over issues that REALLY bother them, such as special security checks at airports, as opposed to issues which are still tolerable such as this one, otherwise it will just decrease the importance that is lent to their views by media/human rights agencies/govt/non-govt orgs.
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The people it mentioned are not classified as illegal - it said that their immgration status was challenged by the government.
If someone is illegal, they should not be tagged. Instead, they should be deported or even better, sentenced to hard labour for 10 years and then deported so that they can tell their wannabe illegal buddies back home how much it’s not worth it.
But anyone over whom there is sufficient uncertaincy that their immigration status in being tried in court - they should not receive degrading treatment, such as the tagging mentioned here.
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MS why is tagging degrading? I wouldn't mind getting tagged as long as the tag doesn't have an effect on my health or isn't too visibly obvious.
I think we should stop and think and cooperate in matters that are okay to cooperate in before simply condemning every immigrant-related regulation that is issued. This has become a habit of our community but is not going to help in the long run.
Khayr, just my two cents :)
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Maddy...no agency is dumb enough to say that they can track illegal (or undocumented)... because the new law requires illegals to be deported or detained...these people overstayed their permission and this is only a test...
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I can’t understand what the hue and cry is about tagging people who overstayed their welcome and can get lost in the masses. It is not like it a muslim issue or a friggin mexican issue or an INdian one…it hits all. I think this is a good concept. It is not like they are asking citizens to declare what religion they are on their passports or something. 
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Did you not read enough? It requires those tagged to stay in their houses 6PM - 6AM? How would you like that? If you are a ghulam zehniat then you wouldn’t mind that for sure.
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Are you ignoring the fact that govt is planning on extending it to ALL immigrants!?
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Captain - here's how it works........ tag 1000, interesting, let's pay someone an outrageous amount of money to do a feasibility (sp?) study, hmmmmmm, interesting, now budget the cost, OMG, No one knew there were THAT many immigrants here and who knew the amount of people and years we would have to commit, and amount of equpiment to do it all........ Well, let's just shelf that for now, better yet, it never happened.... American government waste at it's finest.
Never worry about the cat getting belled, catching all the cats is a pain in the neck.
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Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that only happenned in one case? Perhaps this clause can be protested as opposed to the whole law.
My point is just that if we CAN cooperate with the government on some issue, like how so many Muslims from certain countries had to register with INS recently, then we should not raise concerns simply for the heck of it cause it will decrease our credibility in the long run. These days it has become fashionable for our community to criticise every step/law from the govt which is not something wise since future generations have to live in the country and make it their home.
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minah_pa: Do you think government agencies don't already have a number of immigrants whom they'll have to deal with? It shouldn't be shelved just for the amount of resources it consumes but the liberty it eats up, the freedom "Immigration" gave us will be taken away etc.
Irem: Only one case was reported on NPR but it is being done on many immigrants whose immigration is under question but govt plans on extending it to all "non-citizens".
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Captain - I totally agree, but c'mon, we're talking republicans, have to be realistic here
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Captain, It will never get to all immigrants, particularly legal ones. I am happy that some kind of oversight is being used to keep an eye on would be miscreants. Should some Indian feel slighted because he overstayed his visa and gets tagged while he is appealing...well he should think again..the arab living next to him and in the same situation is probably feeling a lot worse.
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May be it won't extend to all immigrants and there was a misunderstanding of journalist. I just read briefly a report of this stuff it talks about targetting non-detained immigrants.
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Its one Law for Whites and another for Foreign / immigrants its the same in the UK
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Actually thats what I was referring to. Immigrants are anyone who is naturalized as a US citizen or here on GC or work/student visa etc. The original article didn’t limit the future expansion of this project, i.e. it is being considered for all immigrants (presumably anyone who is not born in USA). I can understand putting tracking bracelets on criminals (Martha Stewart etc) or people who are a flight risk or a security risk.. but to consider putting a tracking device on all legal immigrants is insane. Just the amount of useless data coming in will be impossible to analyze. If you remember that NSEERS follow-up annual interview requirement was cancelled bcz it was a whole lotta time spent and data coming in that was of practically no use.
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^ It will enevr happen faisal you are rest assured. I am all for tagging illegal immigrants.
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My only concern is that this issue has too many loopholes for potential misuse.
Fraudia jee-- next thing you'll want diamonds in yours. :p
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didnt you sneak through jfk hiding in the luggage compartment. you came to the country and opened a magazine shack on 5th and broadway…!
Gujratis