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HONEY: I know about honey. My baby will not get honey till 4 years of age. Thats done.
HEAD FLATTENING: I never heard of it ever. What is that?????????
ATTA ON FACE: to remove face hair.......... Oh MY ALLAH!!! those infant hair sheds automatically during first 6 month.
It is amazing to find about so many different things about back home people.
All the wonderful MOMS HERE " HAPPY MOTHERS DAY" I HOPE YOU HAD FUN YESTERDAY.
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people think they can play god and change the shape ofthe head by placing it on a hard flat object ot steel plate(!)
quite irrelevant really, my dhee has a beautiful round head alhumdullilah despite people saying that i should’ve flattened it
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head flattening, honey , ata.. err.. 
never heard or seen such thing.
i’ve heard of giving azan ( not loudly, just softly) in the same room as the baby, but that happens in all the muslim household as i understand?
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^ Yes and it's in the baby's ears, not just in the room.
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^^ Oh bloody hell no wonder why my kids are deaf, I used a bull horn.
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lol.......ofcourse you are not gonna yell in their ears but with very soft voice, and that too BY their ears, not really IN them.
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Oh God, head flattening. My mil made sure my first daughter's head was placed on a tea cup saucer so the back would be flattened. She would call me to check if i was keeping it on the saucer. I didn't, unless i was at her house. I agree with Verizon, there is no need to keep up this ritual. A babies head forms its own normal shape without having constant pressure on it. A baby's head can actually be too flat, so parents should make sure their child is turned to the side as well.
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did u just say beautiful … 
btw they dont reply ur pms ??? dont tel me u r ignorant enough to learn thez tectics and gona apply them in ur real lyfe … thes online ppl dono shiz abt u n wats on in ur real lyfe.
p.s: i wonder wat kinda family u live with . yea coz as far as i think of .. in my family if any relative get pregnant every one shows up to help her out n stuff.
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The thing is that a baby’s head is elongated from coming through the narrow birth canal. So obviously since the plates are not fused, the head can ‘squeeze through’ and elongate. This conehead will go back to normal soon after birth, but our people feel the need to press it down as though it’s just going to stay like that. My mother never practiced this head shaping on me or my two brothers and our heads are normal.
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But, what is the purpose of head flattening?? What is wrong with a nice round head?? My head is shaped very weird... ther'es all these hills and crevices... I think my brother thought my head was a squeezetoy when i was born :(
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FLAT Head (Plagiocephaly) (1-9 Months)
Excerpted from Your Newborn: Head to Toe: Everything You Want to Know About Your Baby’s Health through The First Year
by Cara Familian Natterson, M.D.,
What is happening inside my baby’s body?
Just as the head was shaped in the womb by mom’s pelvis, the head is subject to reshaping after birth too. This is because the plates of the skull are pliable, so positioning of the head can dramatically affect its shape over time. When babies are laid down to sleep in the same position over and over again, specific spots on the skull receive more pressure just from the weight of the head on that area. If the position of the head is not rotated regularly, then the part that repeatedly bears the weight will flatten. For some babies the flat part is on the back of the skull, but for others it is on one side or the other. Noticeable flattening is called plagiocephaly.
Plagiocephaly can also result from repeated positioning while sitting up. When your baby sits in a car seat, his head flops to one side or the other. Head-and-neck pillows help to keep him supported, but sometimes a baby prefers to turn his head in one particular direction, or the seat is arranged so that he is in the same position each time. Again, gravity and the weight of the head can put pressure on a specific part of the skull, and this can contribute to flattening of one side of the head.
Babies with torticollis have uneven neck muscles. These babies hold their head cocked to one side. They are more likely to develop plagiocephaly simply because they position their own heads in one direction most of the time. Torticollis is covered in more detail in chapter 17.
What can I do?
You can rotate your baby’s sleeping position regularly. Your baby should sleep on his back, with his head turned alternately to one side, then the other, and then kept in the middle. He can be slightly propped up on his side using a wedge (triangular-shaped pillow) or a rolled blanket tucked behind him. Any material used to position a baby should be placed below the shoulders so that, in case he squirms and flips over, there is no chance that the material will block the nose and mouth. If a flat area has begun to form on the skull, then an effort should be made to avoid laying the baby on that side until the skull has rounded out again.
If you notice that your baby prefers to look in one direction and this is contributing to flattening of the head on one side, then try to provide entertainment in the opposite direction. Toys can be placed in the crib in such a way that the baby turns his head to look at them. In the car, a mirror can be placed on the backseat so that he will turn his head to catch a glimpse of himself. When trying strategies like these, you should remember to put the target objects in a place that entices the baby to look in the opposite direction from his favored glance.
When does my doctor need to be involved?
If you notice an area of flattening on the head, let your doctor know.
What tests need to be done, and what do the results mean?
If a baby has plagiocephaly, then tests are usually not necessary. The treatment will typically be the same regardless of any tests that may be done.
What are the treatments?
Helping your baby to round out his head can be difficult because once he has developed a comfortable flat place to rest his head, you will need to do some maneuvering to get him to sleep or to just hold his head in a different position. If repositioning and placing toys and mirrors have not helped, and if the head flattening has become severe, then a helmet may be used. This is unusual.
Helmets help to round out the head. They are firm, so they place gentle pressure on the parts of the skull that are more rounded and no pressure on the areas that are flat. Over time (usually months), the flattened parts of the head become round. Helmets are almost never used until a baby is 4 to 6 months old - the head will usually round itself out well before then. Helmets are rarely used after a child is 10 to 12 months old, because the bones of the skull are far less moldable by this point.
What are the possible complications?
The only complication of plagiocephaly is a cosmetic one: a permanently flattened head. This is usually hidden by hair, especially when the flat spot is in the back. But in rare cases, one side of the skull is significantly flatter than the other, and the cosmetic effect can be noticeable. If a person has very thin or sparse hair, then the flat spot is more obvious.
Additional Resources
http://www.hmc.psu.edu/neurosurgery/pservices/helmet.htm
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head shape is just to make the head look round not the oval shaped or like flat on one side … thats it ! my mom used dopeta to round ma lil brats head. my abcd cousinz got thez goofy heads since there was no one to fix em rite 
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Well, maybe everyone is not bless to have family close by.
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acha acha anty g .. u won i lost 
but but but it is kinda grozz na … i mean its tempting and grozz at the same time 
i have to admit i did read most of ur short replies n posts but as soon as i finish reading them … i go like… dang it y she has to put all this crap online … it just reminds me the moment i was standing on this balcony looking thing in this hospital staring down at this women delivering a child … YUUUUUUUUCK!!!
n i m sry for bieng an arse:rolleyes: but goood luck with ur labor n all. i hope everythin goes rite n u have a healthy lil BOY 
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I would like to have a walking epidural.
this one is the most surprising to me. I don't think anesthesia should be given on request. Only when there's an indication should it be administered.
Nescio - would you have a tooth pulled without anasthetic - absolutely nothing wrong with requesting an epidural when giving birth.
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good example amana!!!
yeah coz sumtimes there r difficulties during the birth the baby could be a big baby etc and it is proven to be perfectly safe for both mother and baby
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Mr bombastic: Thanks you for your good wishes.
Amana: there is walking epidural and then standard epidural. In standard epidural your whole body down waist is disable for a couple of hours or so. In walking epidural you can walk right after deleivery.
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not a good example amana,
of course i would ask for a local anesthetic for my tooth, but you won't hear me asking for a systemic anesthetic for that. Similarly the risks of a sytemic anesthetic are still too high to weigh up against the benefits.
And certainly it's not safe for both mother and baby to be used on a large scale, only for certain indications it can be used: like big babies, but ull only find out once ur in the process
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She mentioned a walking epidural, not a standard epidural. There is simply no comparison between an epidural, where you are numb from the waist down, to a systemic anesthetic, where you are unconscious.
Giving birth with an epidural has a minimal risk of potential complications, and the only way to make this decision is to consult your own ob, and be well aware of the pros and cons of each type of anasthetic. L&D is not a pain contest.
Just curious Nescio - are you a man?
