mohajir differece of poltical oppinion...(merged)

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You guys got all of Sindh, Sarhad, Balochistan, and Northern Areas and made it into Punjabistan, so not a big loss.

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I smell conspiracy. The poster has a hidden agenda to incite hatred among Mohajirs and non-mohajirs of Pakistani people. No conflict there enough to incite hatred.

Differences are just minor, workable, negotiable differences and at the end of day ALL Pakistasni are UNITED.

Sorry to disappoint you vroom...........Not!!!!!!!!!!!!

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So true.

Jazakallah

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Shukriyah.

!!!!!BATHROOM MAIN!!!!!
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Well, now the MQM is teaming up with the same people who made Pakistan into Punjabistan... So who are you to level any charges?!?!?

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Todays Pakistan...

History repeats it self, this is as true as that sun will rise tommorrow provided the fact one repeat the same mistake. Consequences of drinking poison was death 1000 years ago they are still the same in 2007 and remain same in future.

The ethinic drama going on in Pakistan has been staged in Muslim Spain as well. Muslims were mainly divided in Arab and Berber groups and use to cry for their rights. Nonetheless, it was cry of some losers (leaders) who knew that the only way they can be noticed or can get in power is by fighting for petty issues. Conflict continued and Muslims ( Arab & Berbers) were drived out of Spain, remainders were killed or forced to change their religion or forced to live like a 3rd grade citizen.

Same is happening in Pakistan, Mohajirs have somehow cameup with this strange idea that they are the only one who can manage the country and they are not given the right to do so. so they decided to create anarchy... by creating so, few of them (leaders) got THE attention ( foreign passports & bank balances) rest of them are still suffering from the side effects of what their leaders have done.

Nations with 1000 of years of conflicts are getting together, forming Unions (European Union), and we are still saying that y an "out-sider" comes to Karachi ( works hard is forgotten factor) and earns more then compare to some lazy local. The hard work is never been left unpaid, this is promise of Allah all mighty, but the believe on Allah is so weak that we only call him cause we are use to it. so how can we trust his promise.

From my point of view, the major reason of conflict between the ethinic groups in Pakistan is ROTI, the one who works hard will get it anywhere the one who don't will face problem anywhere...

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THE government and its sycophants are blaming the chief justice for playing politics. If an army chief can be a politician, then why should it bother people if the chief justice likes to copy his style? If the army house and the general headquarters can be the centre of politicking, why can’t the chief justice’s residence? Why are there two standards for the army chief and the judiciary chief?

I have seen Gen Musharraf’s interview to Aaj TV and he was on the defensive for the most part. He said the “masses of Karachi demonstrated their political mandate in favour of the MQM, which would not tolerate the dominance of opposition parties at any cost.”

If we go by his logic, does this mean that people in other parts of the country where other parties are dominant should not tolerate advances of the MQM and stop them by force? On May 12, the MQM lost its moral high ground for good. The MQM has proved once again that it is merely a pressure group that can only play the politics of agitation, chaos and violence. By aligning himself with the MQM, the army chief has embarrassed his office. Is there a supreme military council where we can send a reference against the army chief ?

The MQM has once again proved itself to be a pawn of the military establishment. It is irrelevant what linguistic group the army chief belongs to. The military’s survival depends upon divide and rule. Both the MQM and the MMA are perfect apparatus in the hands of the military and they dance to GHQ’s tunes every time.

It is time for General Musharraf to start looking for an exit strategy, something they don’t normally have in the DGMO office. For the past couple of months, there are articles in major US newspapers to prepare for life after Musharraf.

What Musharraf calls the art of walking the tight rope is considered ‘munafiqat’ in every part of the world. When you walk in the middle of the road, you get hit by traffic from both directions.

Only time will tell whether Musharraf’s fate will be similar to Ayub’s or Zia’s. In the meantime, as an Urdu-speaking person, I hang my head in shame at the leadership of Altaf Hussain and Pervez Musharaf.

ASIM ALAVI
Southfield, MI, USA

http://dawn.com/2007/05/28/letted.htm

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The MQM has once again proved itself to be a pawn of the military establishment. It is irrelevant what linguistic group the army chief belongs to. The military's survival depends upon divide and rule. Both the MQM and the MMA are perfect apparatus in the hands of the military and they dance to GHQ's tunes every time.

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Couldn't be said in better way.

are u a lawyer/doc? `mashallah!!!!`
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Army, or rather Mush came begging for MQM's support and MQM made the wrong choice. What else is there to it?

Pakistani boys in UK
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What is this that called URDU SPEAKING, Urdu is national language of Pakistan ( 2nd official language as well, i guess) so why only one community is insisting for to be called as URDU SPEAKING, as far as my observation in educated families in Punjab mostly speaks urdu at home and offices.

Nonetheless, if someone still insist to be called as urdu-speaking, then they should be proud of the fact that their mother-tongue is the National Language of Pakistan...

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Alteast MQM shouldn't be saying that, enjoyed almost five years of absolute power when the push come to a shove they are regreting... there should be atleast some ethical responsibilities MQM shuold carry.. or MQM is free from all kind of Ethics.

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Just excellent...i fully agree....

exactly..very informative post....

and yes..i respect Liauqat ali Khan...but latter he imposed his community over all high posts..and virtually be3came a soft dictator by President Of Muslim League and PM of Pakistan...as in law..these two seats shoould be seperate...latter he was blammed to be not taken care of Jinnah..and sent him a petrol less car when he arrived at Mari pur air-port....and started usual political dirty game in punjab between abdul bari..and daultana..etc....

And most of punjabis ae also migrated from East Punjab...in the pool of blood and fire...but they never call themselves "Muhajjir to give them some special importance...We all are Pakistanis....Muhajjirs have done nothing special for Pakistan..All provinces..have put an equal part...but Liaquat ali khan ..unfortunately..did serious ethnic mistake and still we are faciung this problem....

And MQM...lets not talk about it...They are terroprists and killers...in the name of Muhajjirs....

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So you have your part of the story and we have our part of the story. And probably these were things which led to his murder in Rawalpindi and saoked the seeds of Punjabi-Karachi hatred which never ceases.

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its not story..its reality...see the old versions of Nawa-i-Waqt where hameed nizami...courageously unfold all the unjustice of Liaquat Ali Khan..and co.etc...

Regarding murder..itself f is a mystery..so that i cannot say...the murderer wsas kiled at the spot by a police officer which was latter promoted to DIG..i think....but this is reality..Liaquat Ali Khan and his wife was very muich depressed by the editorials of Nawa-i-Waqt...of Hameed Nizami...Abdur rab Nishtar support to be Punjab first governor...and other things....

And thier is no hatred between karachi and punjabs...only the vaderas on interior sindh which are oringally robbers and give shelters to robbers ...kidnappers..murderer..in thier Goths...near the river area...and kidnapped the rich people fior tawan...and MQM..which is the biggest terrorist organization of Pakistan..only these 2 gropus create hatred..and propaganda against Punjab..for psuedo stories to gain votes from foolish and illeterate people....and yes i agree..the propganda is so strong that many Karachites also have negative thinking about Punjab...i accept that...

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Altaf Terrorsit said in india that......

*Its the biggest mistake of division of india and muslims seperated....

*Allama Iqbal was not given the concept of Pakistan....

*Jinnah played a big mistake in making Pakistan....

I want to ask this Terrorist Bhatta Khor....you are so malicious that you talk about your own land...which made you a leader....from nothing....you eat of it...you lived in it...and now you are talking in your usually ugly way about Pakistan.....go to hell of Gujrat of India...as someone earlier said in his post...I fully agree....go and lick the feet of Nareendar Moodi...when he will balat kaar your 9 9 years old girls and burn you alive...then Altaf will know..what is pakistan...ands who was Jinnah !!!!!!!

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These poor Muhajjir dont know that they are playing in the hands of MQM terrorist which are using them for thier own interests...MQM did nothing for muhajjirs..even further ruined them by facist and nazism...thats why in whole country...people have negative thinking about muhajjirs due to the face of muhajjirs shown by MQM to whole Pakistan....

All were muhajjirs which migrated from india..thats not mean they will reamin muhajjir till qityamat...Why they dont call them Pakistani instead of muhajjirs...i have necver seen anyone in punjab saying itself a muhajir whose parents or even he himseld migrated from jalandhar..Anbala..Amratsar..Goardaspur..Hoshiarpur...Batala...Agnala...Ferozpur...etc etc....

We all are Pakistanis...what the muhajjirs have to do with thier nostalgia of india when they were borna nd brought up in Pakistan...They eat of Pakistan...and sing the songs of UP...Luknow...Karnal etc..what is this !!!!!!!!!!

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^ Apparantly it was a Pathan, Sindhi and Punjabi leaders that broke up Pakistan. AKA Yahya, Bhutto, and Niazi. Is that correct?

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I think Karachi-Punjab rift is as old as Pakistan. MQM came into being in 1977. And probably these two were the main responsible people for fall of Dhaka in 1971.

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http://www.storyofpakistan.com/images/p0724010101.jpg

Ghulam Muhammad

Born in 1895, Malik Ghulam Muhammad belonged to a middle-class family from Mochi Gate, Lahore. His childhood was spent in the walled city of Lahore and thus the impact of pure Lahori culture was very much visible on his personality. After graduating from Aligarh University, Ghulam Muhammad joined Indian Accounts Service. Initially he served in the Railway Board and then during the War he worked as the Controller of General Supplies and Purchase.
During the First Round Table Conference, Ghulam Muhammad represented the Nawab of Bhawalpur. He also worked as the Financial Advisor to the Nizam of Hyderabad. When Liaquat Ali Khan became the Finance Minister in the interim Government, Ghulam Muhammad helped him in the technical affairs. Ghulam Muhammad also assisted him in preparing the historical “poor man’s budget”.
When Pakistan came into being in 1947, Ghulam Muhammad was inducted in the first Cabinet of the country as Finance Minister. As a Finance Member in the Cabinet, this economic wizard helped the country in the era of financial crises and due to his personal relations with the Nizam of Hyderabad, he persuaded him to give financial assistance to the newly born Pakistan. It was on his initiative that Pakistan organized International Islamic Economic Conference in Karachi from November 26 to December 6, 1949. Finance Ministers of all the Muslim Countries participated in the Conference. In his address, Ghulam Muhammad gave the idea of the establishment of an economic block of the Muslim countries.
Liaquat Ali Khan, during the last days of his rule as well as of his life, decided to remove Ghulam Muhammad from his Cabinet due to his bad health. But the death of Liaquat turned the tables for Ghulam Muhammad. When Khawaja Nazimuddin resigned as Governor General to become the Prime Minister, Cabinet elected Ghulam Muhammad as the third Governor General of Pakistan. After assuming the charge as Governor General, Ghulam Muhammad started dominating the affairs of the country and Khawaja Nazimuddin merely became a powerless Prime Minister. When Khawaja Nazimuddin and his Cabinet tried to challenge Ghulam Muhammad’s authority, the latter, with the support of bureaucratic and military leadership, planed a conspiracy against the Cabinet. He used his discretionary powers under the Provisional Constitution, which provided that the Prime Minister held office during the pleasure of Governor General, and dismissed Nazimuddin’s Ministry. Ghulam Muhammad helped Muhammad Ali Bogra, the then Ambassador of Pakistan in the United States, in becoming the next Prime Minister. In October 1954, Constituent Assembly of Pakistan amended the Constitution, denuding the Governor General from his discretionary powers under which he dismissed Khawaja Nazimuddin’s Government. Ghulam Muhammad acted immediately and dissolved the Constituent Assembly. Maulvi Tamiz-ud-din, the President of the Constituent Assembly, challenged the decision in the Sindh High Court. The court gave verdict in favor of Maulvi Tamiz-ud-din, but the Supreme Court reversed the decision of Sindh High Court. Due to the attack of paralysis, Ghulam Muhammad went on a two month’s leave, and was eventually removed by the acting Governor General Iskander Mirza. Ghulam Muhammad died in 1956.

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and you forgot tritor Mujeeb ur Rahman...no doubt ..bengalis had some geniune problems...but Mujeeb portrayed them...so much that..he blinfolded the whole bengali nation...and that why he himself was killed by his own people and for 3 days ..his dead body remained there...and nobody was willing to take that.....

Its the Allah who give anyone honour...and anyone dishonour (al-quran)