MMR link to AUTISM

The vaccination for measles mumps and rubella, MMR, has been linked to causing autism in a number of places. Frankly I am paranoid now. What are your views? After reading the literature, aren’t you scared? Do you have info on this? This vaccination is a ways off but I am seriously considering not getting it for my baby.

Italian Court Rules MMR Vaccine Caused Autism: US Media Blacks Out Story | Collective-Evolution

New evidence ‘shows MMR link to autism’ | Mail Online

HealthyChildren.org - MMR Vaccine and Autism: What Parents Need to Know

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several studies have proved that MMR is NOT linked to autism as it was claimed by the Dr. Wakefield who manipulated the results and has been accused of fraud.

check this out
CDC - Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR Vaccine -

Autism and MMR link not proven, say experts - Telegraph

and by the way from your third link:

MMR and Autism
Q. Is there a link between measles vaccination and autism?
•No, there is no scientifically proven link between measles vaccination and autism.
•Extensive reports from both the American Academy of Pediatrics, the Institute of Medicine and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention conclude that there is no proven association between Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism.
•Autism is a chronic developmental disorder, often first identified in toddlers from age 18 months to 30 months. MMR is administered just before the peak age of onset of autism. This timing leads some parents to mistakenly assume a causal relationship. There is no evidence that MMR causes autism.
•Increasing evidence indicates that autism is determined while the baby is still in the womb, early in the pregnancy.
and of course there are more articles..

Anyway, I have a 19 month old who got his first MMR at 15 months and had suffered teh side effect but it never ever occured to me not to get the second dose for him when it will be needed. I cant even imagine the impact of disease if the child hasnt been immunized.

As a parent you know whats best for your child but I feel like vaccination is the best way to go and with my background in public health I know immunizations prevent outbreaks and herd immunity (that most people rely on if they choose not to immunize their kid) isnt as affective as you think it is. :slight_smile:

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I am not sure about the US, but here in Canada laws have been changed about the MMR vaccine - doctors are giving it to the babies after the 12 month mark since that is when the signs of Autism become apparent, so then it does prove that the vaccine itself has nothing to do with Autism if the baby is showing signs before hand.

GTG - what were the side effects you noticed in your baby?

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They give the MMR after the 1st birthday in the USA too.

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Autism and vaccinations have no proven link. The study/authors that was first published that caused all the ruckus have retracted their findings over the years. Anecdotal evidence cannot be used a true representative/fact. Autism is really dependent upon multiple factors…this is something research has been able to show. Environment, genetics etc. At the end of the day, you have to weigh the risks and benefits of the vaccine. Outbreaks in schools (mainly young children)…that’s the risk you’re choosing to take when you refuse vaccinations.

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I think this has come up before and agree with everyone above

The internet is full of crazy stories. Let’s all learn to look at reputable websites before making decisions about our kids’ (and other kids’) health. That first website? Are we really going to believe anything that site says (take a look at other stories on there)

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Thank u so much. I have been watching insane levels of shows like the Arrivals, the Illuminati etc etc and am paranoid and convinced sleep deprivation first child that this is some huge depopulation scheme. :stuck_out_tongue: I’ll get the MMR

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I have a cousin whose two out of 3 kids got encephalopathy after being vaccinated for MMR and are autistic. This is a rare complication and not everyone get it but we cannot ignore the risks yet get the kids vaccinated

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This is what happens when people don’t: 2013 Swansea measles epidemic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And the doctor who wrote the paper has been struck off the register: MMR vaccine controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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he developed fever (one week after vacicnation) and had rashes all over his body (apparently measles rash) and was quite miserable for couple of days.. his skin darkened and we had to go see the dermatologist but just the thought of how it could have been worse later in his life if I hadnt immunized him made me not regret at all.

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It will years before we have any conclusive study.

For your peace of mind, you can space out and divide up the vaccine. Both my sister and SIL delayed the vaccine and suggested the safer vaccine schedule for both their babies.

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Why will it be years before there is any conclusive study? There are already decades of data and they have been reviewed.

“Following the initial claims in 1998, multiple large epidemiological studies were undertaken. Reviews of the evidence by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the Institute of Medicine of the US National Academy of Sciences, the UK National Health Service, and the Cochrane Library all found no link between the vaccine and autism.”

One rouge medical professional managing to get a paper published making some wild claims does not contribute to there being an actual link. I am not aware of any other factual results, study or analysis in existence linking MMR and autism.

It’s worth reading the link I posted above in full. Some snippets:

“Deer continued his reporting in a Channel 4 Dispatches television documentary, MMR: What They Didn’t Tell You, broadcast on 18 November 2004. This documentary alleged that Wakefield had applied for patents on a vaccine that was a rival of the MMR vaccine, and that he knew of test results from his own laboratory at the Royal Free Hospital that contradicted his claims.[3] Wakefield’s patent application was also noted in the 2008 book Autism’s False Prophets by Paul Offit.”

“On 5 January 2011, the BMJ published the first of a series of articles by Brian Deer, detailing how Wakefield and his colleagues had faked some of the data behind the 1998 Lancet article. By looking at the records and interviewing the parents, Deer found that for all 12 children in the Wakefield study, diagnoses had been tweaked or dates changed to fit the article’s conclusion.”

“In 2001, Berelowitz, one of the co-authors of the paper, said “I am certainly not aware of any convincing evidence for the hypothesis of a link between MMR and autism”. The Canadian Paediatric Society, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences,[9] and the UK National Health Service[10] have all concluded that there is no evidence of a link between the MMR vaccine and autism, and a 2011 journal article described the vaccine-autism connection as “the most damaging medical hoax of the last 100 years”.”

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stoppit - that’s just one aspect. Medical research. I hate to argue with doctors and researchers because there is no amount of medical research they’ll spew out to prove or disprove a point.

I have met parents with kids with autism. Met tons of families where their 3rd or 4th child had alternative vaccinations and were not diagnosed with ASD, where as 1st and 2nd child are on the spectrum. And like prototype said it’s **a rare condition but MMR is one of the trigger. **

Does the MMR vaciine cause autism - no it doesn’t. Is there a link between MMR and autism - IMO - yes there is.

What is that specific rare condition - that’s what researchers need to hone in on.

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What is alternative vaccination?

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sorry chips I meant a alternative vaccination schedule.

Many cases where autism is apparent in older siblings, parents opt out for

  1. a spaced out schedule for vaccinations. here’s an example (http://www.oprah.com/health/Dr-Sears-Alternative-and-CDCs-Childhood-Vaccine-Schedules/5)
  2. limiting to only giving babies the criticial vaccinations not all from the CDC schedule which most American peds use blindly.
  3. delaying the MMR at a much older age for children.

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Omg how I remember starting a similar thread regarding the same issue & concerns.
Ah 1st time mother & paranoia.. Uff! Anyway, I ended up delaying the MMR untill my son was two years old.

Now that my daughter has turned one, I’m goin to be delaying them again.. Just for my peace of mind.

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People still believe this stuff?

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My OB/GYN source tells me that the big conclusive study that proved that MMR potentially causes Autism was fake. The primary investigator admitted to falsifying the data. As of now, there is no, ZERO, evidence that suggests that MMR vaccinations cause Autism.

Autism/MMR Vaccine Study Faked: FAQ