Miswaak and its Benefits

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Because it holds the possibility to invalidate your Fast, which will be a MAJOR sin on your part.

We aren't supposed to be weak either, we have to eat and replenish our energy, so why dont we eat during our fast too while we're at it? THat seems logical as we can't deny Allah's blessing and eating is part of being a Human.

We're permissible to brush before we keep our fast, during it would only hold chances of invalidating your fast, If anyone had fear of Allah they would not go down this course.

The rest is up to you.

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Then whyyyyyyyyy do you fast? You fast because you fear Allah. Yet you have no problem if toothpaste breaks your fast, and angers Allah.

What kind of logic is that?

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though u have asked USResident but and i am sure he is capable of replying, but i have an opinion on above as well..

Teeth are most essential element of human health, healthy teeths not only garantee a healthy body and mind but adds points in the personality of a person.

In days of Prophet (PBUH) maswak was the only cleanser available for the tooths, tooth pastes were not inveted then niether were there any brushes available, so keeping the importance of healthy teeths in mind he emphasised on using maswak, as it was the tool to keep the teeth clean.

if u analyze the situation u will find out the emphasis was not on maswak but to keep the teeth healthy and clean.

Somebody said the taste will makrooh the fast,

but that person forgot that maswak have different tastes as well, the taste maswaak depends on the nature of the plant it is obtained. try it, when ever i go to country side in Pakistan, instead of using brush i use maswaak, i have tried several trees and each tree has its own taste.

other things like Ahraam and Salaat, they are part of ibadaah that will never change, and who ever tries to do that may cross the boundry of Islam.

An trust me, water have taste, ever tried a fresh water from a spring, lake, river...

water taste of land near to sea is different then the taste of water near the river and that also differs from the water of mountain region.

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People do things because they* fear* Allah? That seems backwards to me. You ought to do the things He commands because you *love *Him and want to do right by Him.

If you enjoy toothpaste and someone really thinks that will break your fast, then choose a type you don't like. There are dozens of varieties. Surely you will hate one of them.

But just as someone can enjoy the taste of toothpaste, someone may also enjoy the taste of miswaak. What's the difference?

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Nothing i saidin above was against fasting, i fail to understand y u said that, anyway u said that so i will answer!!!

Allah Subah.o.tala says, fast is for me and only I will repay for this.

also fast is a secret between Allah and his Man ( women) no one can tell a man is fasting or not...

anyway let see the logic of fasting,

The biological reason for that is too give rest to human organs for almost one month, they can be over-hauled by natural process and on social side, a man can learn that how poors live withour food, and water... just to share the pain.. on spiritual side it is to live all the halaal things only for Allah, and only Allah stay away from them till the Allah subah.o.tala brings the time for them to be halal again.

I have not gone in details, hope this will clarify the logic of fasting.

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U hit the nail. i don't think so there is more left to be said.

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No one till today was able to explain the reason that how brush and toothpaste ( provided the component of both are not haram) can makrooh the fast.

Please go through the whole post and let me know if u can explain to me why
it is considered haram.. may be iam wrong, if u can prove it then i wll do toba andnever repeat the act again..

but try to explain.. with reasoning as every thing in Islam is for a reason.

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And I was accepting a reference from you for your statement.......

I will do siwak and won't use toothpaste during fast because its better to be on the safer side , and because Prophet(SAW) did use siwak during fast.

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:D :D :D

what if iam lefty???

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JazakAllah Khair Brother Crescent for nice replies.

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Prophet (PBUH) use to ride camels while going to Journeys, hope u will do the same...

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Do you really think that people don't ride camels anymore?

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only in sab-sahara region and where they cannot have and/or afford any other mode of transportation...

anyway lets analyze ur replies in this thread..

First u gave the** taste reason** and included scholars against brush and toothpaste..

then u left all of them and only came up with one reason that Prophet (PBUH) used to use it so it will be used.... on this i would like to comment, that then why only use while fasting??? why not 365 days a year, and twice day every day... because the sunnah tells us that He (PBUH) use to do maswaak around the year... then y a sunnah is adopted in a particular month and abandoned later???

doesn't that tell us that we do stuff not to please Allah but to satisfy our own ego?

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  1. No one said Toothpaste and Toothbrush is Haraam, so lets not go overboard and bring in "I think, or In my opinion", Islam is based on facts not opinions.

  2. If a non muslims asked you, give me one logical reasoning, as to how the Miraaj Happened and how Allah swt exists. What reasons are you going to give him?

Do you really think, EVERYTHING in islam is based on reason? If it was, we would've discovered everything ourselves no? Why would there be a need for a messenger to come down and teach us religion?

Bro therez something called faith.

The only reason toothpaste is makrooh is, because you wouldnt' take candy in your mouth while fasting either, even if you keep it in your teeth, you think the lil tiny bit of sugar wont make it into your stomach?

Miswaak is natural its a tree, it excretes no substance of its own. Toothpaste is a paste with different chemicals and sweetners in it, to use that during fasting, is that really logical?

In the end, my job was to show you why it was makrooh and why the Prophet pbuh made it makruuh.

And this thread is about Miswaak and it's benefit, and miswaak is a form of ibaadah, for example:

"Hadhrat Abu Hurairah (R) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi
Wasallam) said: 'Was it not for my fear of imposing a difficulty on my Ummah
I would have ordered that the Miswaak be used for every Salaat, and delay in
Eshaa prayer '." (BUKHARI)

"Ibn Umar (R) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Sallallahu Alayhi
Wasallam) said: 'Make a regular practice of the Miswaak, for verily, it is
healthy for the mouth and it is a Pleasure for the Creator
(i.e. Allah is
pleased with the Muslim who uses the Miswaak)'." (BUKHARI)

Now you said that the emphasize is on cleaning your mouth. WHY would the prophet pbuh say "use miswaak", why didn't he just say "keep your mouths clean".

See where it makes sense now?

If you know anything about the seerah of the Prophet pbuh, you'd know that he left nothing in question, everytime he talked, every word of his was heavy and had weight, he said things for a reasons, or else he didn't talk. Every word was of guidance, and every action the same.

So when he mentions miswaak, in not just htese hadiths but MANY other husn hadiths, then why are we in denial?

No one condemns toothbrushes or toothpaste, I use them myself, but I use miswaak now too, because it is what was mentioned by the prophet pbuh.

And hey, my mouth is clean!

THe emphasize of his traditions are on the things he says and shows, not on the IDEA out of them, infact if you notice, the specific things he mentions, allow us to achieve a clean mouth, while gaining sawaab, AND getting the benefits of the miswaak tree.

Its just as simple as, APPLE > Healthy and DEEP FRIED CHICKEN > Unhealthy.
Both things are considered food and you eat it, but which one is good for you?
That doesnt' mean toothpaste is good for you, it shows that there are ideal things shown by the Prophet pbuh and there are things that fullfill needs on a worldly basis.

So the choice is just up to us, to learn and do things for ALlah and not ourselves.

May Allah guide us all ameen.

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I think Hanibal has already stated some stuff about water which I think does not need repetition here. However tasteless water is probably distilled water not the kind you most often drink. Water does have a taste to it.

Anyways, maybe you can prove to me that Siwak was something the Prophet SAW or Islam introduced and was not known or practiced at the time. If you can do that then you stand on at least some ground. Or that non-muslims at the time did not use siwak. The Prophet SAW added emphasis to it to stress the importance of cleanliness in Islam. And inner and outer cleanliness are important to spirituality. We worry about being presentable in front of each other then why should we not worry about being presentable in front of Allah SWT and also not being irritable to our fellow muslims especially when going to pray with Jamah. If your mouth smells bad it will be bothersome to others and people will refrain to talking to you. Siwak as a piece of twig by itself has no more significance than a sword in the hand of a muslim. It depends on what you do with it. The emphasis is not on the tool but its use.

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**Do you really think, EVERYTHING in islam is based on reason? If it was, we would've discovered everything ourselves no? Why would there be a need for a messenger to come down and teach us religion?

Bro therez something called faith.**

And this is your problem.

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No one is saying that the Prophet never used miswak, nor recommended it. Why can't you guys accept that the principle of the matter is still being followed by a toothpaste and toothbrush. The toothbrush is just an advanced miswaak, that's all. You really think the Prophet would have discouraged you to use toothpaste and would have told you to use a miswaak.

You guys think he asked his followers to use a miswaak because their is something magical about the wood or something. In reality, he was just telling people to keep their mouths clean.

You can do that with a toothpaste and toothbrush. Please stop complicating things.

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Tooth Brush will clean your teeth and you will be rewarded as far as the command of being clean is concerned but you will lose all other rewards that are attributed to miswaak - all spiritual things related to miswaak. But if you still think that Tooth brush is enough, then, it’s OK. May be Allah:swt: will give you reward for that.. He’s the judge… we can only draw conclusions from the narrations anyway.

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:salam:

So do kafirs using siwak get the spiritual benefits from it also?

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Yes Ma'am, Can you explain to me logically how the Miraaj happened, and how Allah exists and created the worlds, and how you came about?

Can you explain to me, what a soul is, how is it created, where does it go after a person's dead? 'Cause clearly there is something lively about a person until he dies, and is motionless. what goes missing?

Answer these logically for me, use your brain, and I shall take back my words.

If you cant, then I suggest you work on your faith and strengthen your imaan in Allah swt.

Good luck.