If you say all the parties are involved in violence, then pointing only to Lyari gang groups makes no sense. Were Lyari gangsters involved in firing at Chakra goth. I don't feel comfortable in buying MQMs point of view that 5 Balochs were killed by Lyari gangsters and their death bodies in boris were dropped in MQM's areas to spread violence in the city.
Can't understand why PPP wants to lose its vote bank in their stronghold when Zardari announced that Bilawal will contest election from Lyari. There may be possibility that another party is involved in creating hatred in Lyari through their agents to exploit the next elections. After all, this is power game and you can expect anything from power hungry politicians.
For all who are trying to teach me history, before 1800, Kolachi was under the control of Khan of Kalat (Baloch), later came under Talpurs of Sindh
Also the Kolachi tribe was Baloch tribe, not a sindhi tribe.
Karachi was always part of Sindh. In 1697, Karachi (kalachi) was handed over to Khan of Qalat as 'Khoon baha' for murder of Khan of Qallat Mehrab Khan on the orders of Mughal emperor Aurangzeb Alamgir. Kalachi then remain under rule of Khan of Qallat from 1697 to 1757 (for 60 years). In 1757, Karachi again came under the rule of Kalhora dynasty of Sindh.
(reference: Tareekh e Sindh by: Moulana Ghulam Rasool Mahar)
Before 1764, America was under the control of the King of England.
Exactly my point. Then why claim that Karachi is/was property of some specific group and urdu speakings should be grateful to them forever for letting them settle. If there is one thing we got from history,is that no piece of land has one universal owner. Ownerships and belongings change over the period of time, so expecting that Mohajirs owe something to Sindhis is a bull crap. And if that is true then Sindhi owe a lot to Balochs.
^but i hear the same from Muhajir people too.......that they gave refuge to the Pathans who have settled in karachi....... the sh!t is EQUALLY spread to be honest..
Exactly my point. Then why claim that Karachi is/was property of some specific group and urdu speakings should be grateful to them forever for letting them settle. If there is one thing we got from history,is that no piece of land has one universal owner. Ownerships and belongings change over the period of time, so expecting that Mohajirs owe something to Sindhis is a bull crap. And if that is true then Sindhi owe a lot to Balochs.
Your bigotry against Sindhis is slowly but surely is coming out
Karachi was always part of Sindh. In 1697, Karachi (kalachi) was handed over to Khan of Qalat as 'Khoon baha' for murder of Khan of Qallat Mehrab Khan on the orders of Mughal emperor Aurangzeb Alamgir. Kalachi then remain under rule of Khan of Qallat from 1697 to 1757 (for 60 years). In 1757, Karachi again came under the rule of Kalhora dynasty of Sindh.
(reference: Tareekh e Sindh by: Moulana Ghulam Rasool Mahar)
These MQM wallah's want people to believe there were never any Sindhi's in their capital of Karachi, and the commercial capital of Karachi was a tiny village before MQM-wallah's transformed it into a world class city.
In addition, living there for 50 years negates Sindhi's living there for hundreds of years.
That shows the true heritage of the piece of land. It does not matter who ruled it. Its amazing that when it comes to rulership, you give me a whole timeline but refuse to accept the rulership of urdu speaking on Karachi now. When it comes to heritage, you decline that the piece of land actually belonged to Balochs. Iss ko kehtay hain ke chit bhee meri or put bhee meri
If political boundaries is something that you want to go by then please find sindh in this map of 1900 India
Exactly my point. Then why claim that Karachi is/was property of some specific group and urdu speakings should be grateful to them forever for letting them settle. If there is one thing we got from history,is that no piece of land has one universal owner. Ownerships and belongings change over the period of time, so expecting that Mohajirs owe something to Sindhis is a bull crap. And if that is true then Sindhi owe a lot to Balochs.
I agree completely with you as far as the being grateful thing. To phrase it desi style, "Allah ki zameen hai, kisi ke baap ki nai!"
But I hold that Karachi is very much a part of Sindh. BTW, I'm from Lahore so I have nothing against Sindhis or Urdu-speaking people. I condemn the MQM for their violent ways, but credit must be given to them for Karachi's development. As regards the PPP, I can't really think of anything they have done except further fueling the violence so I just condemn them lol :p
when pakistan was came into existence, karachi was the part of federal territory. its mean, karachi was neither belong to balochistan nor sind but separate entity as state capital.
when pakistan was came into existence, karachi was the part of federal territory. its mean, karachi was neither belong to balochistan nor sind but separate entity as state capital.
