Re: Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
Peace obaid1982
Neither your perception of Isa (AS) nor your reasoning for our need for the second coming is cogent. The reason we believe in the second coming is because this belief is as per our scriptures and it is a belief that the inheritors of Isa (AS)'s true message had …
It is not because of kullu nafsin zaiqatulmawt … but rather the Ascension and this verse both are true …
Even you believe in the return of Isa (AS) but on one hand you claim Isa (AS) came only for the Jews … but on the other hand you still assert Mirza Ghluam Ahmad is Isa (AS) and you assert he came to the people in India … and you by inheritance … so you need to be consistent … If you argue that Isa (AS) only came for the Jews then don’t at the same time assert Isa (AS) is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad … And I think you agree that they are not the same … you claim Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was Masih and Mahdi … yet our hadith that speak of the second coming mention Isa (AS) by name and do not mention Mirza Ghulam Ahmad by name … It is funny because you use the hadith proudly to say “there is no Mahdi but Isa” - but you don’t believe Isa (AS) will be back at all anyway … And you rely in fact on the ahadith of Mahdi to make your claim that Ahmad = the name of the Mahdi … which is the same name as The Seal of the Prophets (SAW) … Muhammad - but even if you say it is Ahmad - then your leader’s name is really Ghulam Ahmad not Ahmad … but all of this is pointless really … because if you really believed that then you should be looking for a hadith that says … “There is no Isa again only Mahdi” … The hadith you use to support yourself is the wrong way round … it helps us - it specifically mentions Isa (AS) by name it does not say Masih (by title) … and denies the Mahdi and your rely on Mahdi accounts to equate Mirza Ghulam Ahmad to them by name … So you are caught up in a fix … and that troubles you and that is the reason why you use such mockery towards us …
As for living in heaven for millenia - I do not only believe that is the maqam of Isa (AS) but the maqam of all martyrs and prophets and I believe all heaven dwellers will be alive forever after judgment … I do not believe that it is any different or difficult for Allah (SWT) to put us in heaven forever before we die or after we die and are raised again … I believe we enter Jannah in bodies that are made for us … and I reconfirm that there is no big feat in keeping Isa (AS) in heaven before death for Allah (SWT) … all things are easy for Him … And if you think that we say Isa (AS) is supernatural then you will also have to say that we believe the whole of humanity is just as supernatural … because we believe in Adam (AS) being made in heaven and sent to Earth - the like that I know you do not believe in … But we do … so if you think we believe that Isa (AS) is supernatural then you should know that we believe it is no different to the creation of Adam (AS) and the rest of humanity is just as supernatural for us … The difference however between Christianity and Islamic orthodoxy that you are not admitting is that the Christian idea of supernatural existence of Isa (AS) is because they say he is God and of the same substance as God - And if you knew our aqidah you would know that we never make that claim and Pure is Allah (SWT) from all similarity let alone of being the same substance as anything else that is even if the word substance is even allowed for Him - which in strictness it is not. No we cannot be blamed for deifying Isa (AS) that is a horrid accusation and slander on Islamic orthodoxy and it shines dishonesty on all who attempt to claim that … The purest form of Tawheed resides with us … and we are proud of that without any claims or arrogance. For all Praise is for Allah (SWT).