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Perhaps you should read the post again. Seven heavens ARE the layers of the atmoshphere.
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Agreed there are so many miracles that are foretold in the quran. But why are all the interpetations coming after the event. This shows that simple versed are interpreted in a manner to tally with the event. To all the so called islamic scholars why dont you interpret some of the verses to foretell an invention that is yet to take place.
Freinds the following statement is supposed to mean that image transmission was foretold.
““He who possessed knowledge of the Book” told Prophet Sulayman (as) that he could bring the Queen of Saba’s throne to him very quickly. This is a possible reference to the transmission of images with present-day advanced technology.”
http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/predictions_09.html
If this statement can be manipulated to mean what is being said by the scholars, then it is very difficult to believe some of the miracles !!!
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^ thats what i said earlier to jeevaypakistan, if we stretch things to the point of exaggeration than we just make a joke of us and of the Quran....
like the example u gave, clearly manipulated and such that anyone with a sensible head will reject the idea....
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It is really interesting. Seven heaven...planets including Sun and Moon were known to the people of 7th century Arabs. And all of them were rotating arround the earth...
So, I again repeat my question if Earth is rotating arround the Sun.... And what is the shape of Earth....What Quran says? Nothing...where is miracle?
In fact they have ajdusted Quran to knowledge and knowledge to Quran. It is not a miracle, but adjustment, nothing else.
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Is the message of Islam for EXTRA-TERRESTRIALs also. If yes, will they to come to Macah for Hudge & Umraah ? Will they pray in the direction of earth ?
Any answers.
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^ do the birds and animals come to Makkah for Hajj and Umrah????
no they dont, why????
cuz they r not ordered to do so....
hence, if there exists something like aliens, then they will do what they r told to do, not necessarily come to Makkah....
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what you mean to say is that message of Islam is meant only for Earth. Right ? I always thought the message is universal.
Any mention in Kuran, if there exists something like aliens ???
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^ no i dont think Quran mentions aliens....
Jinns and Insaan r the only two groups that Quran mentions as those who shall be judged on the Day of Judgement....
hence i think Quran is only meant for them to follow....
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What are you talking about? Seven heavens refers to the layers of the atmoshpere surrounding the earth. There is no mention of the Sun & Moon relating to the seaven heavens. No 7th century Arab had any knowledge of the layers of the atmosphere. Quit making things up!
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Ok, if you are so sure…where it is written in Quran that the Earth is rotating arround the Sun?
Quran talks about the layers of atmosphere but had no knolwledge about the shape of the Earth.
How is it possible that Quran mentioned about layers but skipped the elementary knowledeg of astronomy?
Is not it interesting?
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How is this relevant to the discussion at hand?
If I was to post here what the Quran has to say about the shape of the earth, would you accept yourself as being blinded by ignorance, and blurting things out without actually looking into things?
Which elementary part did it skip? Its not a science book, as in, it would include every thing about science in it.
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it also missed the Earth’s radius, its mass, its gravitational pull… 
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its depth, its continents, its weather etc.
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And miracle? If it is hidden in the seven heavens misreported into seven atmospheric layers?
Person who talks so often of 'seven heavens' sorry of 'seven atmospheric layers' says nothing of elementary knowledge of astronomy.
It must be a miracle!
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listen up now,people like u munafiq can easily say that where is in quran say that peeple can talk each other over phone,over internet so on,now its yr turn collect all religon holy books and show me as much information about whole universe as it is in quran,bible and torah came before quran u said people knew these things before then why these things are not in previous books with so much details,i am not rejecting any previous books (naozobillah) but i am saying that people didnt know lots of things before the quran,now its up to u to accept it or reject,dont be a MUNAFIQ
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who adjusted what,what u wanna tell,be more clear, if u r so sick to understand about earth as it is in quran then what u have to say about below information,i am sure after reading below information u will say where in the quran say the name of atlantic ocean,pacific ocean,red sea and so on,after reading all information if u still dont understand then i am sorry u have DEAD BRAIN period.
THE SEAS NOT MINGLING WITH ONE ANOTHER
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A satellite photograph of the Strait of Gibraltar.
One of the properties of seas that has only recently been discovered is related in a verse of the Qur’an as follows:
He has let loose the two seas, converging together, with a barrier between them they do not break through. (Qur’an, 55:19-20)
This property of the seas, that is, that they meet and yet do not intermix, has only very recently been discovered by oceanographers. Because of the physical force called “surface tension,” the waters of neighbouring seas do not mix. Caused by the difference in the density of their waters, surface tension prevents them from mingling with one another, just as if a thin wall were between them.60
It is interesting that, during a period when there was little knowledge of physics, and of surface tension, or oceanography, this truth was revealed in the Qur’an.
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There are large waves, strong currents, and tides in the Mediterranean Sea and the Atlantic Ocean. Mediterranean Sea water enters the Atlantic by Gibraltar. But their temperature, salinity, and densities do not change, because of the barrier that separates them.
DARKNESS IN THE SEAS AND INTERNAL WAVES
Or [the unbelievers’ state] are like the darkness of a fathomless sea which is covered by waves above which are waves above which are clouds, layers of darkness, one upon the other. If he puts out his hand, he can scarcely see it. Those Allah gives no light to, they have no light. (Qur’an, 24:40)
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Measurements made with today’s technology have revealed that between 3 and 30 percent of the sunlight is reflected at the surface of the sea. Then, almost all of the seven colours of the light spectrum are absorbed, one after another, in the first 200 metres, except for blue light (picture at left). Below a depth of 1,000 metres, there is no light at all (above picture). This scientific fact was pointed out in Sura Nur 40 in the Qur’an 1,400 years ago.
In deep seas and oceans, the darkness is found at a depth of 200 meters and deeper. At this depth, there is almost no light, and below a depth of 1,000 meters there is no light at all.61
Today, we know about the general formation of the sea, the characteristics of the living things in it, its salinity, as well as the amount of water it contains, and its surface area and depth. Submarines and special equipment, developed with modern technology, have enabled scientists to obtain such information.
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The picture to the left represents internal waves at interface between two layers of water of different densities. The lower layer is denser than the upper one. This scientific fact, declared in Sura Nur 40 of the Qur’an 14 centuries ago, has been discovered by today’s scientists only very recently.
Human beings are not able to dive to a depth of more than 70 meters without the aid of special equipment. They cannot survive unaided in the dark depths of the oceans, such as at a depth of 200 meters. For these reasons, scientists have only recently been able to discover detailed information about the seas. However, that the depth of the sea is dark was revealed in the Qur’an 1,400 years ago. It is certainly one of the miracles of the Qur’an that such information was given at a time where no equipment to enable man to dive into the depths of the oceans was available.
In addition, the statement in Surat an-Nur 40 “…like the darkness of a fathomless sea which is covered by waves above which are waves above which are clouds…” draws our attention to another miracle of the Qur’an.
Scientists have only recently discovered that there are sub-surface waves, which “occur on density interfaces between layers of different densities.” These internal waves cover the deep waters of seas and oceans because deep water has a higher density than the water above it. Internal waves act like surface waves. They can break, just like surface waves. Internal waves cannot be discerned by the human eye, but they can be detected by studying temperature or salinity changes at a given location.62
The statements in the Qur’an run parallel precisely the above explanation. Certainly, this fact, which scientists has discovered very recently, shows once again that the Qur’an is the word of Allah.
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Dude, you are a moron! You’ve lost your arguement. & u still haven’t answered my questions.
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Given verses are really very interesting.
Dear Anwaar Qureshi
- I am sure that you know Arabic, may be the Arabic of Quran! Can you tell me the actual translation of above verses (not adjusting words)?
In fact in one translation I have read the word ‘bodies’ instead of ‘seas’/
- Here is another translation someone has informed me…
He mingled the two seas that meet (55:19)
Between them an interval they do not be unjust (55:20)
Kindly tell me how can we make the conclusion interprated in ‘greev’ post?
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Please read this article carefully……I do not insist you to accept it. I feel that it is a better explanation of ‘seven heavens’ in stead of your so-called ‘layers’.