Re: Miracles & Magic
Dear brother psyah, as I have explained already, no matter how much we come to know about the universe or the revelation we cannot reproduce them. The reason is that no matter what we will never be able to create mater out of nothing like Allah did. Likewise the information the quran is telling us is beyond human capacity to know the way it is told in the quran. This is not about copying the text of the quran but the actual vast amount of information the way it is expressed in the quran. The quran has in it information that is yet to come true in perhaps billions of years. Humanity does not have such capacity in its brain to foretell things this far ahead. This is why it can never bring forth a book like the quran.
As for story of prophet Ibraheem and fire, that has been explained in context of the quran already and so have been other stories. As I said before, there are alternative rational or reason based explanation available for all these stories. It is magic of mullahs ignorance that they have turned clear things into mysteries.
You should not equate creation and revelation with these make belief miracles because by no means anyone can prove their necessity. If anyone will ever prove their necessity then their rational explanation will be eliminated but may be not because proof and proving is always about explanation of evidences so miracles can never be proof of anything because they can never be explained rationally, so we are back to square one because proof can only be rational or reason based.
If you think about it you are trying to make me see sense in miracles which in itself is your appeal to reason, so if at the end of the day we have to fall back on reason based explanation then why go through all this nonsense?
Moreover any miracle is said to be momentarily experience of few present at the scene of event. What purpose can that serve if any, particularly when humans cannot trust even their own senses 100% due to falling victims to illusions or each other when they tell things to each other that are unbelievable?
Moreover if Allah wants people to obey his laws then that means laws are made to be obeyed for purpose of consistency and regulation of things and if Allah himself breaks laws to show people things then people will also have right to break laws to show things to each other. How does it reflect on Allah? Because if Allah is forced by his own set-up to breach his own systems, processes, mechanisms and laws then who else is good enough to follow laws for sake of consistency and regulation? Does it not mean the plan of Allah was not right to begin with so it needed fixing here and there after the whole thing has been initiated?
The quran repeatedly draws our attention to natural world and the way things work in it for the simple reason that we learns lessons from that and then be able to show our own creativity by becoming learned and skilful people. So reasoning things out is what the quran teaches us, why? Because reasoning is the only thing that could help us develop and grow. Why should we grow biologically, psychologically and sociologically? Because Allah has set us goals with guidelines and goals cannot be achieved without enabling ourselves to accomplish the needed tasks.
Just look at the earth in context of the rest of the universe, does it make sense that Allah should create such vast universe just so that we just sit here in the earth for ever? No, we are universal travellers to see creation of Allah that is why we are created with huge potential and abilities to discover things for ourselves and see wonders of Allah’s creativity.
So we have yet to discover a lot of things within the quranic text, we have not even begun yet. Great miracles are still to take place so all we need to do is get ourselves ready for that and prepare our future generation to do a better job than us.
Man is not called ashraf almakhluqaat for nothing. He has yet to prove by his thoughts and actions that he is. Just think about it that if a cow was put in the human brain, could it accomplish anything like a human being? No, because human brain also needed human senses and human body to go with it. A clear proof that nothing in the animal kingdom is like a human being. So Allah has created him for his own reasons and they are certainly not what mullahs told us ie isolating ourselves from everything treating it as rubbish and sitting in a jungle on a rock shouting Allah hu. The ultimate purpose of creation of man is appreciation of divine being through his expression in form of universe and revelation.
regards and all the best.