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Rajput 
We ve lot of Rajput in my area and yea they are really fighters and even in fight of kids their women came out from homes and hits the other kid 
once i faced it 
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Sannan, when it comes to protecting children, ever mother behave like Rajputs.
Aap ne kabhi murghi ko apne bachon ke liye cheelon se ladte dekha hai? Billi ke bachon ko bhi jab cheda jae to Billi nochne per utar aati hai.
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She was his Khala 
Agar Maan hoti to mujhay qatal he kar daiti But I don’t think so If kids are fighting in a ground and anyone kids mom or lady relative start beating other with stick At least my mom or lady relative never ever get courage to start this function in an open ground 
in front of many men!
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^ Chalo jaan bachai lakhon pae.. waise I must say what a cute khala 
BTW: Yeh English wali Meera Rajput to nahin hai.. 
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Mari to ghar main chir he par gai thai "Meecho In Action " she was 3 to 4 feet long and nick name was Meecho 
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Meecho Meecho saraiki main kuch khas word hai ya phir kisi ka bighda hua naam jaise Hameeda se Meedo.
Back to the topic Rajputs are spreaded all over subcontinent. There are in majority in Indian Gujrat (probably also in Rajisthan). We find many Rajputs in Sindh as well as Punjab. It seems that many people liked to be call Rajput as is the case with Syeds.
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Yes please. aap ke paas boht backlog jama hogaya hai.. If you can't get time, do watch the movie on Mira. Its amazing.
Tv mein kam dekhti hoon khaas tor per Indian movies but I will read it, its better.:)
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Lovely poetry with many Gujrati words embedded. When you say Bhakti movement was counter to Sufi movement. Does that mean these were parallel movements or conflicting movements?
The entire meera's poetry was in Brajbhasha, a major dialect of Hindi spoken in mathura, agra to kannauj area. Islam was the only ideological threat that hinduism faced, introduction of Islam brought wasn't big problem, but majority of conversions occured due to Sufism. Sikhi was a hindu reformist movement, but conversion of Ramayan, Mahabharat, from brahmin sanskrit to local dialects took place in this time period from 1500-1700 when tulsidas wrote Ramcharitmanas, Surdas wrote Sursagar regarding Krishna's life, Raidas, Meera bai, and even a pathan muslim named Ras khan wrote about shri krishna. This movement successfully defended Hinduism, before these text, many non brahmin castes converted to Islam as they understood god through Islam while hinduism was only property of Brahmins.
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Muslim Rajputs are called in Meo rajput just like muslim jats are called muley jat or muala jatt. Rajputs are found majorly in Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab and Jammu. Thakurs of Hindustani area also claim themselves Rajputs. Many gallantry awards winner are Rajputs including the present Indian Army Chief. Minhas is also a rajput title, hence It is possible that Plt Offr Rashid Minhas was Rajput
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Gr8 information :k:
But I observed one thing Hindus of Sindh respect Muslim sufis like Qalandar Shahbaz, Shah Latif a lot. You can hear Jhole Laal from Sindhi Hindus who migrated to India a lot. Actually, when they remember Sindh, they must remember these two sufi saints and River Indus.
Recently I read a novelette ‘Sita Hiran’ by Quratulain Haider, where a Sindhi Hindu girl migrated to India and comes back to Pakistan to meet some friends and when she depicts her information about Sindh, it makes people (who migrated from India) astonished. Through this character Quratain Haider raised a point that many of the tombs of saints are revered by Hindus as they were actually Hindu persons which changed their identity with the passage of time and acceptance of new religion by people.
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The basic nature of Hinduism is assimilation unless the other side becomes an ideological threat, Buddhism was the first threat that Hinduism faced. Buddhist stopped taking meat and alcohol, so to maintain 'holier that thou' status Brahmins relinquished meat and alcohol and further called Mahatma Buddh as Avtaar of Vishnu, Hindus in general practice can accept any religious mystic like sufis as their own sadhus, Baba Farid, Baba Bulleshah are famous in hindu punjabi folklore as well. Similar is the case with Sufis of 'chisti' line, auliya etc. In fact, There is CHUNNA MIYAN ka Mandir in Bareilly made by Hindus.They simply assimilate and consider then as hindus
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^ I always used to wonder why Kshatriyas ate meat and Brahmins did not. Kaur, from the epics, did Vishwamitra, Vashishtha, Durvasa and other Maharishis eat meat? Surely they were before Buddha's time.
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THE KAUR I some where read that last nepali king sacrificed buffaloes in india during a ritual. is that true?
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^ I always used to wonder why Kshatriyas ate meat and Brahmins did not. Kaur, from the epics, did Vishwamitra, Vashishtha, Durvasa and other Maharishis eat meat? Surely they were before Buddha's time.
THE KAUR I some where read that last nepali king sacrificed buffaloes in india during a ritual. is that true?
Relax people relax... the kaur aap ke pershno ke uttar awish dengi. Dheeraj rakhiye.
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^ I always used to wonder why Kshatriyas ate meat and Brahmins did not. Kaur, from the epics, did Vishwamitra, Vashishtha, Durvasa and other Maharishis eat meat? Surely they were before Buddha's time.
Shukracharya also called Bhargav was Maharishi on the side of Raskhas, he knew Mritunjay Mahavidya, that could bring life to dead soldier whare as his rival Devguru Brihaspati coundn't do so. Brihaspati's son Katch went to Shukryacharya and introduced himself as son of brihaspati and grandson of Maha rishi Angira, Rakshas kill him while he was in jungle and mix his flesh in wine, and shukracharya loved wine. Finally katch reaches his stomach. not finding katch for a longtime, shukrachary's daughter Devyani asked him to invoke mahamrritunjay vidya, Katch get alive in shukracharya's stomach and says he can't come out, hence Katch is taught mritunjay vidya, he comes out killing shukracharya, later he brings life to shukracharya. Kstriya like Bhagwan Ram also was meat eater.
THE KAUR I some where read that last nepali king sacrificed buffaloes in india during a ritual. is that true?
Not only nepal even in every kali temple killing a buffalo or goat is norm, including Kamakhya temple in guwahati, Assam. But now Brahmins are not supposed to eat any meat or drink wine.
Relax people relax... the kaur aap ke pershno ke uttar awish dengi. Dheeraj rakhiye.
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^ Interesting info :k:
So even Shri Rama was a meat eater. At which stage the tradition of not eating meat started in Hinduism? How the reasoning behind not eating meat justified?
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Brahmins are/were the most intelligent race in the sub continent. Majority of Nobel laureate are Brhamins and mathematician like Ramanujan, even Great Allama Iqbal was cousin of kashmiri pandit Sir Tej Bahadur Sapru. the always saved Hinduism from idological threats that emerged from time to time. First was Buddhism, it has non violence ideology even at the face of enemy who is about to kill him. So brahmins thought they should relinquish meat and wine and maintain holy status equally hence they left these things. Bhagwan Ram was kshtriya educated by Brahmins like Maharishi Vasishtha and Maharishi Vishwamitra, Vishwamitra was kshatriya and later turned brahmin. Brahmin was the “gun”, qualification, and even if god takes birth he has too bow in front of brahmin. Brahmin means the intellectual leader of Brahmand, universe and his intellectual is of brahm, god, the only part of human that is as infinite as god is Brahmin’s intellectual and his conscience.
Even though Brahmins are cursed the most in India, but their sacrifices are great when compared to any other forward class, Majority of freedom fighter were brahmins, poorest of all forward class, they were always genuine mass leader including 9 prime ministers out of 14 in India.
Bhagwan Ram is khstriya and kshtriyas never abstained from taking either wine or meat
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What does Kshatriya means? Is it possible to convert in Brahmin?
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Charurguno chaturvibahaga. four qualifications make four sections of the hindu society. First is Brahmins that was intellectual teacher, he knew everything of the universe, his duty was to keep the kings in the realm of righteousness and was to live on the donation made in first five house, this means, a brahmin has to beg in just five houses in a day, and if he gets food it is okay if not that is also okay:bummer:, he should beg so that he doesn’t become proud of his knowledge.
Kshatriya means the warrior class, who is supposed to fight and they were kings who were to rule and if needed can take advice from Brahmins. During Vedic times, it was the occupation that defined the castes. Maharishi valmiki, writer of sanskrit ramayan was Shudra. at that time castes were flexible, and Brahmins sometimes used to fight better than Kshtriyas like Parashuram and Dronacharya.
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I have read (we are taught in History lessons) that Shoodars were not allowed to listen to holy scriptures and by chance, if they learn/ hear some words they were given serious punishments. Now we knew Valmiki (writer of Ramayan) was a shoodar.