Re: Minister Zulfiqar mirza resigns! And makes serious allegations on Altaf Hussain
A great drama
MQM said that Altaf is serious.
They didn't told him about Zulfqar Mirza's statement.
Great
He is so serious
We should prey for his life and health
So he can face his crimes.
Re: Minister Zulfiqar mirza resigns! And makes serious allegations on Altaf Hussain
Sindhi speakers 'expolit' Karachi???
Sindhi speakers have been in Karachi for centuries. It has been the capital of Sindh long before Altaf's Hussain's parents were even born!
Place belong to people who live there permanently (residents of that place). Karachi in same way belongs to people who live in Karachi (~20 million or so). Most Sindhi speaking Sindhis sitting in Provincial Assembly of Sindh do not belong to Karachi neither they got elected from Karachi, so they have no right to administer or exploit Karachi what they are doing.
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Yes, its very obvious b/c most of killings are done by MQM. They kill anyone who they consider enemy including their own. Imran Farooq is a good example what they are capable of doing.
Your statement that ...
Most of the killings are done by MQM. Is it your bias speculation or dream showing discriminative hate?
Anyhow, one thing is acceptable even in court of law, and that is interest and benefit of perpetrator in crime. If a person gets killed, the one who get investigated most are those who are linked to person killed and could benefit most. Lawyers argue on that basis too. Hence:
I gave reasons showing that killings in Karachi could benefit PPP (or can be perceived that PPP expect to benefit from it). On that reason, I pointed finger on PPP. So, I am not bias. How about you?
If you are not bias than you should also give reasons that shows killing in Karachi could benefit MQM, or any other logical unbiased reason for your beliefs (as you are pointing finger on MQM).
As for your insinuation that Imran farooq was killed by MQM, that is not only silly but shows your bias attitude and mistrust on British police investigation. It points finger on British investigation too, as if your insinuation is better than any investigation going on by British police in UK.
If Imran farooq was killed by MQM, that would come out anyhow. As far as I know, till now no such thing is there in any investigation showing MQM involvement in killing of Imran Farooq. If there would have been anything linked, British media would have been first to report it. So, your insinuation shows nothing but your tassub, bias and hate. Please come out of tassub.
Re: Minister Zulfiqar mirza resigns! And makes serious allegations on Altaf Hussain
Lyari aur Malir ...** they give tax or not**, they deserve fair share of development as rest of Karachi.
So, you check the reality and you will find that lyari has seen more development work done in every sector by MQM Mayor (Mustafa Kamal) than it has seen development done by any past administrator of Karachi, including those they always voted (that is PPP).
Oh, so you have some doubts about share of tax revenue from Malir & Lyari. Explain!
With the second para of your post, I feel I found the right person who can defend the point that ppl of Lyari & Malir were not ignored by World No 2 Mayor Mr Mustafa Kamal. Can you plz share some information about funds allocated to CDGK and its utilisation for development work in Lyari & Malir. I would be really thankful to you, if you provide some authentic information on this, but plz don't reply just by comparing CDGK with corrupt PPP govt. I want to know whether or not Mustafa Kamal was the World's no.2 mayor for serving whole of the Karachi without any bias.
Re: Minister Zulfiqar mirza resigns! And makes serious allegations on Altaf Hussain
Place belong to people who live there permanently (residents of that place). Karachi in same way belongs to people who live in Karachi (~20 million or so). Most Sindhi speaking Sindhis sitting in Provincial Assembly of Sindh do not belong to Karachi neither they got elected from Karachi, so they have no right to administer or exploit Karachi what they are doing.
With all due respect, just answer me one question. If God forbid, the attitude (in bold part of your statement) was shown by locals of Karachi in 1947, where do we all Pakistani stood then. Be tolerant and accept Sindhis as reality of this land.
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If you are not bias than you should also give reasons that shows killing in Karachi could benefit MQM, or any other logical unbiased reason for your beliefs (as you are pointing finger on MQM).
Pointing out obvious doesn't make me bias. MQM is holding Karachi hostage b/c that is how this mafia survives & everyone knows that.
Re: Minister Zulfiqar mirza resigns! And makes serious allegations on Altaf Hussain
The beenfit MQM is getting from killings is what every mafia gets from violence. To intimidate ordinary peopel to give in to their demands, that is bhatta khori and either to vote for them or not turn up at all, so that their croonies can stamp and fill the ballet boxes.
Re: Minister Zulfiqar mirza resigns! And makes serious allegations on Altaf Hussain
Here is lyari and Malir budget for year 2007-2008 showing that none of the areas were neglected by Mustafa Kamal as Mayor.
Budget of Malir, Lyari, Bin Qasim,New Karachi towns presented
Friday, June 29, 2007
Karachi
Malir Town Nazim, Ansar Ahmed Sheikh presented a budget of Rs400.164 million for the year 2007-08 at a local hotel on Thursday.
He urged the federal government to take back the reins of the KESC and help the people of Malir, who have been facing an acute water shortage due to perpetual power failures.
Sheikh said the town had been allocated a 50 per cent increase for development works. Last year it was 150 million while this fiscal year, it is Rs200 million. The Town nazim said that 33 per cent of the amount has been allocated for salaries of staff.
Sheikh said for the repair and construction of roads and for the resolution of the water problem, a total sum of Rs280 million has been allocated. The town Nazim added that the federal government has approved the construction of a passport office. For this purpose, a building is under construction, after which Malir town will have its own passport office.
Replying to a question, he said, Nadra has also assured that it will extend cooperation in this regard. He further said, a mortuary is also being constructed in the town for the first time, which will have a capacity of 20 to 25 bodies. Sheikh said Malir town presently is facing an acute water shortage and it was only due to power failures.
NEW KARACHI TOWN: Town Nazim Mohammed Hanif Surti presented a budget of Rs 403.286 million for the year 2007-2008 with an allocation of development budget of 203.260 million. This he presented at his office in New Karachi town while addressing a press conference here on Thursday. He said the town administration has allocated a sum of Rs183 million for the repair and maintenance work.
He said as compared to last year, 50 per cent funds have been increased for the development works. The town Nazim explained, in detail, other small expenditures such as the Rs3 million for cleaning of nullahs and maintenance, Rs107 million for construction of bridges and foot paths as well as for repair work, Rs10 million for replacing and repairing light fittings in lanes and roads, Rs15 million for payment to KESC in terms of bills.
Replying to a question, he said the town these days was facing an acute water shortage due to the KESC and demanded that the Federal government take over the utility so that the power problem could be resolved at the earliest. The budget was approved by the council.
BIN QASIM TOWN: Town Nazim, Jan Alam Jamote presented a budget of Rs539,761,024 only. A saving of Rs21,876,000 has been shown in the budget.
This was stated by him while talking to the newsmen at his office on Thursday. The town Nazim said that for the development work a sum of Rs 356,287,950 has been allocated.
LYARI TOWN: Town Nazim Malik Mohammed Fayaz presented a budget of Rs473 million for the year 2007-08 with a development budget of Rs103.870 million at his office on Thursday.
BALDIA TOWN: Town Nazim, Kamran Akhtar will present the town budget for 2007-08 on Friday, June 29, at the town council, said a press release issued on Thursday.
Akhtar has directed his administration staff to complete the carpeting of town roads that were broken due to the heavy downpour as soon as possible to ensure smooth flow of traffic in the town.
JAMSHED TOWN: Newly-elected Town Nazim Javed Ahmed took oath at the district and sessions court on Wednesday.
In a statement issued by the town office, he assured that he would fulfill his responsibility. During a visit to Lines Area, Khudadad Colony, Manzoor Colony, Mehmoodabad, PECHS and other UCs, sewage water from overflowing drains and rainwater was sucked with the help of pumps in his presence. He said that the complaint centres were working efficiently and from 170 complaints received, 160 had been addressed.
Re: Minister Zulfiqar mirza resigns! And makes serious allegations on Altaf Hussain
Okay so the above makes up around Rs 1.5 Billion out of total budget of Rs 45 Billion, thats like 3% of the Karachi budget.
Re: Minister Zulfiqar mirza resigns! And makes serious allegations on Altaf Hussain
And the flyovers were from NFC awards, if you count that money as well then it willl come to less than 0.5% of the real budget.
Re: Minister Zulfiqar mirza resigns! And makes serious allegations on Altaf Hussain
Thank you so much. Atleast some one got courage to present some facts.
But you have just posted one year’s budget and that is also not for all the towns to enable comparison. Moreover, can you illustrate that whr the ‘Ushr e usheer’ allocated to poor ppl of Lyari & Malir was utilised. Do they really got new roads and facilities as boasted in budget presentation ceremony.
Re: Minister Zulfiqar mirza resigns! And makes serious allegations on Altaf Hussain
Thank you so much. Atleast some one got courage to present some facts.
But you have just posted one year's budget and that is also not for all the towns to enable comparison. Moreover, can you illustrate that whr the 'Ushr e usheer' allocated to poor ppl of Lyari & Malir was utilised. Do they really got new roads and facilities as boasted in budget presentation ceremony.
One have to look for allocations by city government and population of town as some town were bigger and some smaller. If I was in Karachi I could have found information easily from government, but in UK my access is as good as yours. Anyhow, what I know:
Lyari got plenty of roads development. Water supply was not only increased but overall situation got much better. Lyari got many sports facilities during Mustafa Kamal tenure, etc ... and yea, MQM was expecting to gain seats in Lyari due to their work in Lyari (maybe they might even gain that seat in next election).
Re: Minister Zulfiqar mirza resigns! And makes serious allegations on Altaf Hussain
The beenfit MQM is getting from killings is what every mafia gets from violence. To intimidate ordinary peopel to give in to their demands, that is bhatta khori and either to vote for them or not turn up at all, so that their croonies can stamp and fill the ballet boxes.
People of Karachi do not fear anyone. They did not even feared Ayub Khan or Bhutto ... so do not think that people of Karachi would get intimidated by parties or party candidates (what regularly happens in other part of Pakistan). No one can get votes from Karachi on gun point.
And yea, if anyone thinks that MQM is not people's choice than why not make an independent EC and get election under army not only in Karachi but all over Pakistan. Phir her cheeze samnay aa jayea gee kay koun katnay pani may hay aur koun jhoot bolta rahta hay :)
Re: Minister Zulfiqar mirza resigns! And makes serious allegations on Altaf Hussain
With all due respect, just answer me one question. If God forbid, the attitude (in bold part of your statement) was shown by locals of Karachi in 1947, where do we all Pakistani stood then. Be tolerant and accept Sindhis as reality of this land.
My family is living in Karachi since before 1947 partition. They have seen people coming to Karachi, working hard and growing. Karachi gained a lot due to hard working new migrants to Karachi. I know many who when came to Karachi, they had very little, but worked really hard (in Karachi and abroad) and became rich prosperous. There is no enmity here.
And yea, no one is denying Sindhis to live in Karachi. Fact is that when Karachi gets exploited (by people of interior Sindh, Punjab or anywhere), everyone who is from Karachi gets exploited, be they Muhajirs or Old Karachiets. MQM is first party that gave voice to Karachiets.
Re: Minister Zulfiqar mirza resigns! And makes serious allegations on Altaf Hussain
Place belong to people who live there permanently (residents of that place). Karachi in same way belongs to people who live in Karachi (~20 million or so). Most Sindhi speaking Sindhis sitting in Provincial Assembly of Sindh do not belong to Karachi neither they got elected from Karachi, so they have no right to administer or exploit Karachi what they are doing.
Going by that logic, the PM of Pakistan should only be able to make decisions about Multan!
Using that logic MQM ministers should not be able to make any decisions about Lyari, Sohrab Goth, Malir, etc
Re: Minister Zulfiqar mirza resigns! And makes serious allegations on Altaf Hussain
My family is living in Karachi since before 1947 partition. They have seen people coming to Karachi, working hard and growing. Karachi gained a lot due to hard working new migrants to Karachi. I know many who when came to Karachi, they had very little, but worked really hard (in Karachi and abroad) and became rich prosperous. There is no enmity here.
And yea, no one is denying Sindhis to live in Karachi. Fact is that when Karachi gets exploited (by people of interior Sindh, Punjab or anywhere), everyone who is from Karachi gets exploited, be they Muhajirs or Old Karachiets. MQM is first party that gave voice to Karachiets.
Deny?? Again, Sindhi's were in their capital of Karachi, long before Altaf's parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents were even born.
The commercial port city of Karachi, Sindh saved the life of millions of Muhajir's in 1947, not the other way around.
Re: Minister Zulfiqar mirza resigns! And makes serious allegations on Altaf Hussain
Going by that logic, the PM of Pakistan should only be able to make decisions about Multan!
Using that logic MQM ministers should not be able to make any decisions about Lyari, Sohrab Goth, Malir, etc
There should be three tiers (level) in Pakistan government.
Federal government is third (top) tier and they should make laws that concern Pakistan. All Pakistanis would get affected equally from those laws. Prime Minister should be head of this government. They should be law enacting body, and that should be all their work.
Provincial government is second (intermediary) tier and thus people in provincial government should make laws that affect equally all who live in province. Chief Minister is head of this government. They should be provincial law enacting body, and that should be all their work.
Local government is first (local) tier government. They should make laws and do all the jobs at local level. It is their job to look after development at local level (except projects of National importance within their area). Mayor is head of this government and should coordinate all local Nazims within his constituency.
Actually, even at local level, all districts (or towns within local government) can have their own local Nazim that should look after the work within their district and look after day to day needs of people. Local Nazim should head local works.
People should have access to local Nazim at all time and Mayor when they need him/her. People should also have access to MPA and MNA if needed.
Saab ko apnay dairay may kaam karna chahiyea.
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Deny?? Again, Sindhi's were in their capital of Karachi, long before Altaf's parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents were even born.
The commercial port city of Karachi, Sindh saved the life of millions of Muhajir's in 1947, not the other way around.
That is BS. :) There were very few Sindhis in Karachi before partition anyhow. On the other hand, Sindh was part of India and anyone from anywhere in India could have come and settled in Karachi or Sindh before partition. The most common language of Karachi before partition was Gujrati.
At time of partition Karachi became separated from Sindh. Capitol of Sindh was Hyderabad from 1947 till 1971. It means, anyone who migrated to Karachi after 1947, they did not migrate to Sindh as Karachi was not part of Sindh but capitol territory.
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That is BS. :) There were very few Sindhis in Karachi before partition anyhow. On the other hand, Sindh was part of India and anyone from anywhere in India could have come and settled in Karachi or Sindh before partition. The most common language of Karachi before partition was Gujrati.
At time of partition Karachi became separated from Sindh. Capitol of Sindh was Hyderabad from 1947 till 1971. It means, anyone who migrated to Karachi after 1947, they did not migrate to Sindh as Karachi was not part of Sindh but capitol territory.
A load of crape. Great injustice was done to Sindhis when Hyderabad was made capital of Sindh. Karachi was part and parcel of Sindh since centuries. Don't distort the facts which you guys are experts. What about millions who migerated to Hyderabad, Mirpurkhas, Dadu, Larkana, Shikarpur, Sukkur, Jacobabad etc? I think these cities were part of USA isn't it?
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Karachi was part and parcel of Sindh since centuries. Don't distort the facts which you guys are experts.
Karachi is not a Sindhi city anymore. As much as you hate it, it is the fact.