Several youths of the current age, has made it a religious duty to be in unity with the fashion of the west esp. They don’t want be left out in any regard, despite of how imprudent the trend might be.
A recent trip to Lahore, has left me baffled. Seems to be, only sky is the limit guys! Aside having mix late night parties, drinking, dancing which is prehistoric… the latest trend amongst these posh girls (age group of 20’s) emerging is having pierced belly buttons and tattoos. So how “cool” is that? Most of these young ladies being from reputable families, u’d be surprised what they have in store. Do we still prefer limits to how far a girl may go for the sake of being “hip”?
Most of the girls u talk abt have prolly moved in from the west where this is considered “normal”. So don’t just jump to conclusions.I’m sure u’ll find the hijaabans too.
On a sidenote,pierced belly buttons look shexxy as hell. :love:
whats the big deal? if pierced ears and noses are okay -- or if body modifications like cutting your hair, your nails, or even things like putting mehndi on are okay, what's wrong with piercing belly buttons? i don't think i could do it cuz it's painful. but i don't think that it necessarily implies a diversion from religion. you can't generalize about all girls with piercings.
how does a tattoo or a piercing hurt anyone? isnt it just a way of expressing oneself
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Coming from a dung beetle that is queer hmm….how interesting! So your cool with it all the way. Good to know!
Maniac
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how about expressing the love for your religion and realizing it forbids body modifications such as that
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FYI GUPPIES: Lets keep religious norms out of this matter.
I used in my post the words “* religious duty*" for the sake of the old expression. So case closed on that regard, now lets move on.
Cool Dude
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Most of the girls u talk abt have prolly moved in from the west where this is considered "normal". So don't just jump to conclusions. I'm sure u'll find the hijaabans too. On a sidenote, pierced belly buttons look shexxy as hell.
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You really ought to live up to your nick CD. I did mention the words “Several Youths and * “recent trip to Lahore”,…FYI… lasting more than an yr, dwelling exclusively amongst the lahorites (not moved in from the west to begin with, neither moved out to the west to end with) as an enormous social animal, **CONSEQUENTLY:* there are no lame conclusions. Period! Hijaabans or no hijaabans that is not the question here.
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whats the big deal? if pierced ears and noses are okay -- or if body modifications like cutting your hair, your nails, or even things like putting mehndi on are okay, what's wrong with piercing belly buttons? i don't think i could do it cuz it's painful. but i don't think that it necessarily implies a diversion from religion. you can't generalize about all girls with piercings.
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Sahar, do the words *“Several Youths” *implies that I’m generalizing about all girls? Read my reply to Maniac and CD, because it entails you too. If pain is the only criteria for getting a pierce belly button, would you then go for it?
Coming from a dung beetle that is queer hmm….how interesting! So your cool with it all the way. Good to know!
Maniac
FYI GUPPIES: Lets keep religious norms out of this matter.
I used in my post the words “* religious duty*" for the sake of the old expression. So case closed on that regard, now lets move on.
Cool Dude
You really ought to live up to your nick CD. I did mention the words “Several Youths and * “recent trip to Lahore”,…FYI… lasting more than an yr, dwelling exclusively amongst the lahorites (not moved in from the west to begin with, neither moved out to the west to end with) as an enormous social animal, **CONSEQUENTLY:* there are no lame conclusions. Period! Hijaabans or no hijaabans that is not the question here.
Sahar02
Sahar, do the words *“Several Youths” *implies that I’m generalizing about all girls? Read my reply to Maniac and CD, because it entails you too. If pain is the only criteria for getting a pierce belly button, would you then go for it?
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Tamer -- Maybe I would get one. I don't really know. I never really considered it seriously. And since no one's gonna see it, I'm not really concerned about it right now.
Um no..."Several youths" doesn't imply that you're talking about all girls, and I didn't accuse you of that (all girls with piercings, not just all girls -- but maybe I was wrong about that too). But certainly your tone implies that you are judging the girls based upon their piercings.
Anyway, what difference does it make that they are from "reputable" families? Why is a bellybutton ring a diversion from this reputableness? And what are the "limits" you're talking about? Who determines them? Who's "we"?
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Tamer -- Maybe I would get one. I don't really know. I never really considered it seriously. And since no one's gonna see it, I'm not really concerned about it right now.
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Sahar, either you get one, or either you don't. Simple as that! Why show trepidation by saying, "No I irrefutably don't want one."
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But certainly your tone implies that you are judging the girls based upon their piercings.
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Correct, I am judging them based on their pierced "BELLY BUTTONS."
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Anyway, what difference does it make that they are from "reputable" families? Why is a bellybutton ring a diversion from this reputableness?
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Sahar, an avg' reputable family in Pakistan, will not approve of their young girls having tattoos and b-button studs. It disrepute them.
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And what are the "limits" you're talking about? Who determines them? Who's "we"?
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Limits?! I'm demanding from the readers to tell me where they prefer drawing the line for our youths or ourselves for that matter? Its okay->to party late night, drink, dance, b-buttons studs, and tattoos? Are we Pakistani desis now welcoming this new millennia trend? You and I are okay by taking an active role in this emerging chic hip society?
If this all makes us *cool*, then it's a shame to deliberately ignore such candidates while choosing your spouse. I mean to say, how many readers here would not mind marrying a girl with the qualities above?
Sahar, either you get one, or either you don't. Simple as that! Why show trepidation by saying, "No I irrefutably don't want one."
Correct, I am judging them based on their pierced "BELLY BUTTONS."
Sahar, an avg' reputable family in Pakistan, will not approve of their young girls having tattoos and b-button studs. It disrepute them.
Limits?! I'm demanding from the readers to tell me where they prefer drawing the line for our youths or ourselves for that matter? Its okay->to party late night, drink, dance, b-buttons studs, and tattoos? Are we Pakistani desis now welcoming this new millennia trend? You and I are okay by taking an active role in this emerging chic hip society?
If this all makes us *cool*, then it's a shame to deliberately ignore such candidates while choosing your spouse. I mean to say, how many readers here would not mind marrying a girl with the qualities above?
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Tamer -- personally i don't have a problem with piercings and such. i do on the other hand think the drinking, etc, is problematic, and when considering a spouse i would consider their habits and health, rather than their sense of "beauty" and adornment.
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... mix late night parties, drinking, dancing ..pierced belly buttons and tattoos...young ladies being from reputable families
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ugh! in khi ve vud say dis vas tipicul nazimabadi atitood.
all diz dhamadham masti sharab babes vas frm our grandfadderz days n more. in khi ve neva uzed 2 come home b4 4am n haf da tyme ve dident no hoos hauz it vas dat ve came 2. ah doz ver da dayz! da storeez i cud tel!
tamer vat u d-fine as "reputable"? n vat 2 u is "young" n "lady"? in ar dayz "young" vas bot dhalti-huwi aunties with clee-vage as vel as drunk 12 yr olds. n non af dem lykd 2 b cald "laddees". in dezi society ne1 with mo-ney iz "reputable". sub chalta hai. u aint ceen nutin yet.
i don’t know about this. the pakistani drinkers i know came FROM pakistan. the pakistani americans are a mix, but certainly i dont think there’s any reason to think that they are more likely to drink and party and whatever than the pakistanis. infact, in college the drinkers were usually the ones from pakistan.
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Tamer -- personally i don't have a problem with piercings and such. i do on the other hand think the drinking, etc, is problematic, and when considering a spouse i would consider their habits and health, rather than their sense of "beauty" and adornment.
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Sabah so u r fine with the notion of vulgar display of bare bellies with the stud? We already have the sleeveless, deep neck cuts, see through, short figure and hugging kameezes. Do we really have to now get our girls prancing around with b-studs too? Getting permanent tattoos is an okay adornment of the body? Is that ”beauty”?
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in dezi society ne1 with mo-ney iz "reputable". sub chalta hai. u aint ceen nutin yet.
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Yar, since when has trash like Reema, Meera etc gained a reputable status? Just by the mere fact that they have earned mojo money or that they are living in the most expensive places of Lahore like Defense, doesn’t means they have earned a noble reputation in the society. Btw… how about u share with me ur definition of reputable :-)
Sabah so u r fine with the notion of vulgar display of bare bellies with the stud? We already have the sleeveless, deep neck cuts, see through, short figure and hugging kameezes. Do we really have to now get our girls prancing around with b-studs too? Getting permanent tattoos is an okay adornment of the body? Is that ”beauty”?
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personally i think EVERYONE should dress and act modestly, and i recognize that "modestly" means different things for different people. while i would avoid low necks, sleeveless, bare bellies, etc, i would never FORCE someone else to dress my way. people wanna wear belly piercings, fine. doesn't mean they're showing them off. they're wearing them because they like them. doesn't mean they're necessarily flaunting them.
as for permanent tattoos -- personally, i don't like them. again, that doesn't mean that i am going to judge the morality of someone who has them. frankly, i'd be more worried about my defensiveness and need to judge people. what the heck is the big deal anyway? speaking patronizingly about people isn't going to change anything. sure there are fairly annoying people (often girls) who feel the need to flaunt various parts of themselves for social acceptance. the problem there isn't the low necks, the bare arms, bare bellies, piercings. the problem is the attitude and the need for materialistic and superficial acceptance.
i would never FORCE someone else to dress my way.
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So incase of ur own sister, or daughter (when u r a parent) wanting to have b-studs, or tattoos, you would not attempt to stop them? Correct :-)
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as for permanent tattoos -- personally, i don't like them.
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Seher, Please "explain" why u don't like them for urself? Something one doesn't prefers for him/herself and approves for others, clearly something is fishy about the whole deal.
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speaking patronizingly about people isn't going to change anything. the problem there isn't the low necks, the bare arms, bare bellies, piercings. the problem is the attitude and the need for materialistic and superficial acceptance
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Ur coming across as a conservative subconsciously, but trying to be tolerant so u have urself accepted liberal minded. Isn't this one form of "superficial acceptance" as well?!!! U are condemning this entire trend, isn't this what u
said-->* sure there are fairly annoying people (often girls) who feel the need to flaunt various parts of themselves for social acceptance *
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Several youths of the current age, has made it a religious duty to be in unity with the fashion of the west esp. They don’t want be left out in any regard, despite of how imprudent the trend might be.
A recent trip to Lahore, has left me baffled. Seems to be, only sky is the limit guys! Aside having mix late night parties, drinking, dancing which is prehistoric… the latest trend amongst these posh girls (age group of 20’s) emerging is having pierced belly buttons and tattoos. So how “cool” is that? Most of these young ladies being from reputable families, u’d be surprised what they have in store. Do we still prefer limits to how far a girl may go for the sake of being “hip”? :)
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What the hell were you doing looking at these girls belly buttons?
They can do what they want, ever thought that they don't give a jack to what you think and are doing what they like?
Now, continuing with personal expression reguardless of bigoted fools and judgemental jockeys perched precariously on high donkeys, is as they say "cool" . And why are limits only prefered to "girls" ? don't get me wrong ( I lie, I dont give a jack to how you "get" me) but belly-piercings on guys doesn't have the same je ne sais quoi.
