Military should intervene to end unrest in Karachi: MQM

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As I have already said that this is the only solution to cleanse Karachi from killers of people . These coward b@star ds should be killed and sent to hell asap.

I wonder if AH is really sincere here. A few mqm supporters are totally against military/rangers operation. Further they are also shy of calling themselves as Sindhis and keep on maintaining thier separate identity and Indian background. Is there any division in mqm ranks? What he says is just opposite what mqm supporters write here.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/08/03/military-should-intervene-to-end-unrest-in-karachi-altaf.html

Military should intervene to end unrest in Karachi: MQM

KARACHI: The Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain said Wednesday that the army and rangers should intervene to end the unrest in Karachi, DawnNews reported.

He further said that the army should take action against elements regardless of their association.

MQM chief Altaf Hussain, who lives in exile in London, addressed his followers by telephone and invited the military to come to Karachi and see who is involved in “the ongoing terrorism”.

He said that he had given an ultimatum to the president and the prime minister to impede violence in Karachi within 48 hours but there was no response.

“MQM condemns acts of violence in Karachi. The government has failed to establish peace in the city, innocent people are being gunned down in Qasba Colony.” said Hussain.

“President should end the supremacy of lyari gang war mafia,” said Hussain.

Hussain said that he is a Sindhi and declared a social boycott against those who do not consider Muhajirs as Sindhis.

“I also request the international community to use its influence on the Pakistani government to restore law and order in Karachi,” he added, warning that the situation could worsen if not “tackled seriously”.

In an overnight statement, Hussain had warned people to stockpile food for a month as the law and order situation worsens.

Karachi is Pakistan’s largest city, with a population of 17 million. It was gripped by deadly communal violence throughout the 1980s and 1990s.

The Arabian Sea port city is used by NATO to ship the bulk of supplies to troops fighting in Afghanistan.

Government officials and coalition party members have distributed stickers, pamphlets and placards pleading for peace, but to little effect.

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Girgit ki tarah rang badalta hai. In the same speech he used foul language against Pakistanis, like , aaj jo Pakistan key malik baney baithey haiN, wo hindu banye key ghulam they

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i FULLY agree NOT because MQM leader said that ... i believe as i expressed my opinion in the other thread that Karachi situation must be handled by Law Enforcement Agencies and the when the Police, Rangers, FC fail army is the ONLY hope. when people are dying on the street, the ULTIMATE force must be used to stop it!

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Truth is bitter.

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Who exactly is the Army going to fight? The job of the Army is not to fight petty criminals. Im afraid if they call in the army, it will only create more havoc, and in the long term, further erode the credibility of the civilian govt and embolden the Army, which may take it upon itself to once again save the country from itself. It time the Pakistani people took responsibility for themselves and stopped relying on the Army o take care of everything from street crimes to traffic management.

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Solution to Karachi is not army operation, we already saw Bengladesh, now seeing Baluchistan and KPK. Only if government is sincere and not afraid that its own people will be jailed because of the crimes, the government MUST empower the police, make them independent institution like judiciary then you will see the fruits in few years. As long as police is kept under political control we will NEVER see any good results. Army will only worsen the situation, besides the current geo-politics we are involved in we can't afford to have army work in Karachi.

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agree with captain .. ... before they even think abt army .. police should not be neglected on this matter!! give them the power to sort this out

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Five Hundred percent agree... :)

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Yes, I agree with Captain as well! There's no need to involve the army in Karachi, the rangers are enough for tackling the problem.

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This bitter truth applies to all Muslims who migrated and who opted for living in India. All of them were exploited by Hindu Baniya and that was also the main cause for demanding a separate state of Muslims.

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The situation in Karachi is as such that it requires army intervention. Idealy, they should topple the PPP government, and hang a few more Bhuttos or Zardaris or whatever they call themselves. And Rahman Malik can come back to London to run his subway stores. But that would only be a short term solution.
In the long term, the best solution for Pakistan is a confedration, Canada style, with strong city governments run by mayors. The Mayor of London controls his own police, and so does the mayor of New Tork. The police force should be locally recruited, so that they feel they have a stake in the community. Cops on the beat who know everyone in the community. The present force should all be send home. Egypt and Tunisia are in the process of reforming their forces, and it would be interesting to see how far they suceed. Also, a proper system of land registration, get rid of corrupt departments like KDA. Hamid Mir's Capital Talk on Tuesday had Dr Atta, Shahzad Roy and Iqbal Hyder. They all came up some interesting solutions. Roy said Pakistan needs baby steps, on reforming system first.

By the way, it is the ANP which was the first party to call for military action.

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47, I am trying to be positive. Although, Altaf's statement was historically correct, but it did not help the situation, as the situation in Karachi is very tense. I sometimes believe that he is badly advised by his advisors. Altaf should desist on making statements that embarass the Sindhis.

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I have said that Altaf should never had said. Why offend the Sindhis.

But you are falling into the tit for tat argument that our so called free media encourage. UP and Bihar Muslims were generally holding thier own against the Hindus, and groups like Delhi Saudagran and Ansaris were poineers in setting industries in Kanpur, Calcuta and Ranchi. Loss of land was the most acute in the Seraiki belt and Sindh. But I repeat once again, Altaf's statement was stupid. We need to calm things down.

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Agree 100%. In a single speech, he called himself Sindhi and announced socail boycott for Muhajirs, who don't consider them as Sindhis and in the same speech he came up with negative remarks regarding 'Ghulami of Hindu Banya', which is a controversial matter considering the current tense situation.

He also repeated his mistake by referring to Indian Refuge for 5 crore Pakistanis. God forbid! Why should they go to india for refuge. This is their country and they are living happily with other communities. There are intermarriages between Sindhi - Muhajir and other communities. Two of my uncles got married in Urdu speaking families as early as in 1960's. There is perfect harmony at general public level.

These political leaders are the real culprits who create hatred by stupid statements for sake of their own interests, bcoz in case of any worst situation, they don't have to lose anything due to dual nationalities, assets in other countries and their children living outside Pakistan.

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I don't disagree with everything you have said, but to just blame political leaders is not enough. We need to have a system in place in Pakistan, where minorities feel secure. It is up to the Punjabi people to show greater tolerance towards minorities, and respect their culture. The 64 year history of Pakistan has seen concentration in the hands of a few beaurocrats in Islamabad. You need decentralise, give cities and provinces more power. I have relatives in North Nazimabad, and for the last 20 years their has been firing form the Pahari. The police do nothing, and unfortunately, it only after the MQM responds, that the firing stops. Most of the Karachi police is not recruited from Karachi, and the MQM have failed to change that. We need to have a localised police force. The quota system has to go, and money generated in Karachi has to be spent there. Unemployment is a big issue in Karachi, and it is fact that up country immigrants have depressed wages. Most people loosing their jobs are poor working Muhajirs in Orangi, Qasba Aligarh, Lalukhet etc. Now I accept MQM has done nothing to help them. But there are very genuine greivances, that need to be responded. What people want is jobs and security. Pakistan has failed to provide either to the people of Karachi. Almost a whole generation of middle class Muhajirs has immigrated.

So if you realy love your country, you need except an overly centralised country is bad. The politicians are partly responsible for the mess, the army and ISI, the civil servioe and an opinion among some Punjabis is all responsible for the chaos in Karachi. Blame them all, not just Altaf, Zardari, Mirza and Afsandiar.

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How did you connect whats happening in Khi to Punjab? As for as I know, its turf war between MQM and ANP.

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All we need is Political will to solve the problems of Karachi. None of the major stakeholder has will to solve the problems of Karachi because that will shut down their blood business.

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The problem is, even if army cleans the city, the same thing will return, the reason is political parties supports crimes and criminals, the Police is there to protect criminals only... just have right kind of police officers in the city, let them eliminate the criminal elements, the peace will get back to city, otherwise, we have have 100 military operations and this blood-shed would return

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Does it mean people are boycotting khoji now? :)

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Where is Khoji. Didn't find a thread for this in 'GS Cafe'. Does it mean 'boycot' already started?