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^ what exactly imran has to to before he gets you approval??? Do I really need to repeat what he has done for pakistan and for pakistanis.
unbelievable!!!!
Just needs to stop trying to be a politician. Thats all.
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^Why ? is stepping over "some one's" toes?
Causing distress among "some one's" followers??
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^Why ? is stepping over "some one's" toes? Causing distress among "some one's" followers??
Has it occurred to you that he may just be a simple garbage of a politician? How many more failures must he go through, for you to recognize that.
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say no more!
I know what drives you.
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Ok this thread stinks
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Comparing Imran Khan with that black, short, fat, larcenist and murderer working for indian mafia to destabilize Pakistan through Karachi?
This snake who finances his crimes on Pakistani soil through larceny? Until and unless the people of Pakistan use simple common sense instead of emotions and see his real face, Pakistan is never going to get rid of outside agents on Pakistan's soil who openly commit crimes which leads Pakistan a step further towads destruction.
I am not a fan of Imran as a politian but atleast he is a philanthropic, not a looter of the poor and a murderer like the one you're comparing him with.
Come up with something better to support that pig who has, as someone else said above, taken the people of Karachi as hostages.
Imran has message for bhokkay nangay ghareeb (Kammi, hari, mazdoor, kissan and working class) Pakistanis: You all are choors and do not deserve to be in politics as right to rule is only for Rich. Now I understand why Imran is so upset with MQM. It is because most leadership in MQM are poor bhookay nangay Pakistani and Imran believes that they do not deserve to be in politics. As for Imran himself, he married a rich girl and now considers himself rich too, so he is in politics.
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^^^^ Why does it have to come down to personal blows?
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Look, any loyal Pakistani who is aware of the slightest history of MQM and their leader and has little bit of common sense, would never support this guy. It's amazing how Pakistanis can compare these two. Imran Khan and the MQM leader???? I know I know agents of that mafia are even spread on the internet, scaring and abusing other Pakistanis, creating ethnicity hatred through the virtual world also just like they do in the real world.
^^^^ Why does it have to come down to personal blows?
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Look, any loyal Pakistani who is aware of the slightest history of MQM and their leader and has little bit of common sense, would never support this guy. It's amazing how Pakistanis can compare these two. Imran Khan and the MQM leader???? I know I know agents of that mafia are even spread on the internet, scaring and abusing other Pakistanis, creating ethnicity hatred through the virtual world also just like they do in the real world.
Well that may be true. MQM like many other political parties is not a small group of saints. They do have their fair share of goons. However the discussion on "goon-ness" of MQM is not the topic of this thread.
The original poster simply wanted to point out Imran Khan's statements about Pakistani poor.
So what do you think about Imran Khan's interview? (and his statements)
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Even an uneducated person who is not an MQM follower will understand that his statement refers to politicians who are misusing public money for their personal interest and not to the people of Pakistan itself.
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I could not let go the original poster's comparison between the two. It came as a shock so I had to respond to that part of his post.
Regarding Imran Khan's comments, as I mentioned earlier that I am not a fan of his as a politician. I think that is wrong choice of words. What he meant to say was, as someone else mentioned above, bhookay nangay despite having all the money. Like the greed to have more and more, amass wealth and lead luxurious lives while the poor population of Pakistan struggle to earn a living to feed their families. This is what he meant but chose the wrong words to express himself. Which gave a good chance for the mafia's supporters to deteriorate his reputation as a politician.
Obviously, outside forces which are against Pakistan's stablization would hate to see a non-corrupt Pakistani come into power. Even if he came into power, he will still not be a successful politician but a successful phalentropic. And that is what I feel he meant also, that Pakistan does not need POLITICIANS to fix things but honest, loyal people who give to the poor and not take away from them to fill their own pockets out of greed.
Indian public understood this decades ago but outside mafia never wants Pakistani public to understand that because that would mean, Pakistan would no longer remain a 'developing' country going to worse.
Well that may be true. MQM like many other political parties is not a small group of saints. They do have their fair share of goons. However the discussion on "goon-ness" of MQM is not the topic of this thread.
The original poster simply wanted to point out Imran Khan's statements about Pakistani poor.
So what do you think about Imran Khan's interview? (and his statements)
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Lusi bro! Point well taken.
I am just curious about your statements though. Are “politicians” are not “people” Pakistan?
Regardless of the fact that the original poster is pro-MQM, we must see that Imran’s statements are elitist at best (and childish at worst). In both cases he doesn’t come across as a sincere and credible politicians. That’s why I suggested that he quit politics.
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=284438
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By people of Pakistan, I meant the people who are generally suffering on the expense of those politicians who are playing with public asserts for their personal interest. Normally politicans are reffered as servants of people but it is opposite in Pakistan.
I disagree with your statement that Imran Khan is not a sincere or credible politician. Just because he can never become a typical pakistani politician doesn't means he is not a sincere or credible politician.
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Well that may be true. MQM like many other political parties is not a small group of saints. They do have their fair share of goons. However the discussion on "goon-ness" of MQM is not the topic of this thread.
The original poster simply wanted to point out Imran Khan's statements about Pakistani poor.
So what do you think about Imran Khan's interview? (and his statements)
I know you are not pro-MQM but regardless of Imran's choice of words, you are failing to appreciate the simple fact that this thread was Saleem's childish and pathetic response to real deal's thread celebrating the opening of Imran's Namal College. yaaneen mirchein itni lageen k Saleem had to come up with something to defame Imran. His sole purpose here is to sling mud on Imran. I mean this interview is almost 18 months old. abhi garhay murday ukharnay ka kya mutlab hai.
As for Imran's comments as Lusi and even I have pointed above, Imran is mainly referring to upstarts here i.e. people who get rich and famous overnight (like many of our illiterate politicians) that they just misuse this new-found fame and access to public money. Hence only literate and more importantly Khaandani (not necesarily mega rich) people should ever enter politics. And I agree with that statement of Imran's.
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I could not let go the original poster's comparison between the two. It came as a shock so I had to respond to that part of his post.
Regarding Imran Khan's comments, as I mentioned earlier that I am not a fan of his as a politician. I think that is wrong choice of words. What he meant to say was, as someone else mentioned above, bhookay nangay despite having all the money. Like the greed to have more and more, amass wealth and lead luxurious lives while the poor population of Pakistan struggle to earn a living to feed their families. This is what he meant but chose the wrong words to express himself. Which gave a good chance for the mafia's supporters to deteriorate his reputation as a politician.
Obviously, outside forces which are against Pakistan's stablization would hate to see a non-corrupt Pakistani come into power. Even if he came into power, he will still not be a successful politician but a successful phalentropic. And that is what I feel he meant also, that Pakistan does not need POLITICIANS to fix things but honest, loyal people who give to the poor and not take away from them to fill their own pockets out of greed.
Indian public understood this decades ago but outside mafia never wants Pakistani public to understand that because that would mean, Pakistan would no longer remain a 'developing' country going to worse.
Original poster simply stated the fact that Imran Khan doesn't like MQM because of .....blank blank. Not sure that reference deserves personal attacks.
BTW there are no outside forces trying to prevent an honest person to run Pakistan. Most of the outside forces don't have much role in Pak politics. If your hint is towards Americans and Saudis, then you are giving both of them too much credit.
Americans cannot control their own politicians and you think they will change ours. nah!
And Saudi politician is an oxymoron anyways.
Bro! We must own our actions and their consequences. Blaming others simply lowers our self worth. I hope you understand.
p.s. Indian public was burdened by horrible leftist and communist politicians for almost 50 years. So let's not bring them into our discussion.
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......Real Deal quite rightly opens a thread to celebrate the opening of Imran's Namal College.
... Imran is basically saying that only well-off and khandani people should enter politics because there is less incentive (atleast in theory) for them to resort to corrupt practices. Although this does not necessarily hold true in real life, it is a fact that upstarts are more likely to indulge in corruption and other illegal practices. Imran does not even mention the word bhooka nanga!
Alright GA! I see what you said in #28.
Well I guess we should have asked that in a simple PM or one post. Like *Dear Saleem did you open this thread because of namal? *
Why do we go off attacking everyone but saleem?
There are now 50+ posts on this thread. And yes many of them are trying to either attack on defend Imran.
Let's take your defense "Imran is basically saying that only well-off and khandani people should enter politics".
What is that statement all about? Who are Khandani people? Do we have a litmus test for being "Khandani"?
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There was no personal attack to the poster. And his statement, "Now I know why IK doesnt like MQM" was something which needed a response to tell him that, Altaf is not liked due to his own action, not because of whatever reasons he is suggesting.
Im not referring to America or Saudia. I am referring to our neighbour. MQM is just another agency working for them inside Pakistan against peace, stability in Pakistan that is no hidden truth.
I am not blaming outsiders entirely. I know there is no non-corrupt politician in Pakistan who can be voted. Imran is honest and non-greedy but cannot come into power because he cannot survive in Pakistani politics. People either are uneducated and lack insight or those who have some awareness are not interested to vote because they know none among the politics scene of Pakistan deserve their vote. So, there is no question that we have alot of weaknesses. There are alot of weaknesses and outside forces are EXPLOITING are weakness which are already getting out of control. Last thing Pakistan needs in these circumstances is exploitation of its' people through whatever means. That's when more problems are added to already turbulent scene of the country.
Original poster simply stated the fact that Imran Khan doesn't like MQM because of .....blank blank. Not sure that reference deserves personal attacks.
BTW there are no outside forces trying to prevent an honest person to run Pakistan. Most of the outside forces don't have much role in Pak politics. If your hint is towards Americans and Saudis, then you are giving both of them too much credit.
Americans cannot control their own politicians and you think they will change ours. nah!
And Saudi politician is an oxymoron anyways.
Bro! We must own our actions and their consequences. Blaming others simply lowers our self worth. I hope you understand.
p.s. Indian public was burdened by horrible leftist and communist politicians for almost 50 years. So let's not bring them into our discussion.
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Well you don't need to be an Einstein to know what a khandani person is? I have already explained that in my definition of upstart above....someone who does not become rich and famous overnight. Someone whose family is broadly speaking well-placed, educated and decent.
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Let's take your defense "Imran is basically saying that only well-off and khandani people should enter politics".
Imran Khan is basically saying that people who aren't hungry for money and are satisfied with whatever they have should enter politics.
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Imran Khan is basically saying that people who aren't hungry for money and are** satisfied with whatever they have should enter politics.**
very good point. agree 200%