Mental myopia...

I have always believed that for any nation to thrive and establish itself, its people must come together…And in a nation of millions of people, the only way that is possible is if people learn to tolerate each other…

As long as the sanctity and respect of the beliefs of others are respected, any national of any country should have the ability to express themself any which way they want without disrespect to anything and for the dissenters to oppose that view without disrespect…

Ad hominem arguments are niether respected nor accepted in any civilised argument…Only stronger logic or a case is a criteria for making any point…

I remember the poet Abu Nawas, a gay wine drinking man, who lived under the very nose of the Usmani Khalifa in the times when the Muslims were at their peak…Islamic Shariah was enforced strongly and Muslims followed their faith to the letter with their hearts…

So how is it, that under the Khilafat, under Shariah, a man can be allowed to extol his love for boys and the virtues of drinking and be known for that poetry in the Muslim world and not be ostracised and ridiculed for it?

I believe it had to do with faith…The more stronger the faith and beliefs, the more tolerant and open-minded a person is…The less faith there is, the less tolerant a person would be…It is only the weak of faith that fear losing their spirituality…The wise and knowledgable are rarely angered…

In my thread about lesbianism, KAKA along with a few, wrote some pretty nasty things about me…Insulting and abusive they were, but without substance…Funny thing was, all those came from the very people who think bad of Mullahs, consider the Mullahs intolerant and wish to ‘modernise’ Islam…To their intolerant version…Tolerant to the Kuffar, intolerant to the Muslims themselves…

Hundereds of years ago, scholars of Islam were writing books on Islamic sex and how to increase satisfaction of one’s desire legitimately…No doubt, some very bizarre and strange things must have come up…But, they were accepted or at least argued over and either accepted or refuted…Today, those scholars would have been strung for their views…

So, the question arises…You, are not religiously tolerant, meaning nothing that you disagree with can be brought before you because you can’t take it…

All your years of education has not made you tolerant that nothing that you disagree with can be brought before you because you can’t take it…

So what does that make you?

So, since you can’t form a legible argument, can’t present your case amicably, cannot tolerate opposing view, judge people based on questions they may have then where the heck is your intellect?

If, being a Muslim and being educated doesn’t give you enough intellect to be tolerant, then that makes you nothing more than an ignorant fool…Whose anger burns and churns inside him but makes no movement in the spirit…

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Lajawab, if I did not know any better I will say By Allah he has got it.....now I am willing to accept that you have some kind of spirtual awakening...hopefully it happened when you went for Hajj.

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lajawab, its quite ironic that you yourself come across EXACTLY as the kind of people you r blabbering against.

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Dude, no need to get all emotional and melodramatic. How about you use your superior intellect and spiritual enlightenment that you keep boasting about and focus on what's been said not how it's been said. It's pretty simple actually. Just practice what you preach and half your troubles (online atleast) will be over.

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Neither emotional not melodramatic...Just sad...

Wane: I guess your membership to this board is only to post in my threads to write incoherent things...Do you mind outlining, anywhere, where I became personal, nasty or insulting to anyone?

If you can't, then you know who is blabbering...

Kaleem: Who knows, dude...Who knows...

As Aziz Mian marhooom used to say, "Allah jaanay kaun bashar hai, Allah jaanay kaun bashar hai..."

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as a muslim i cannot accept lesbians or gays however i have no problem with them. i am not going to go out of my way to cause problems for them just because of their orientation. i really have no opnion in this regard. we should all be able to live as we wish and practice the religion we wish. i believe if this mindset was adopted by everyone..the world would be a much better place.

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bhaijaan, go n do a search on ur own master pieces ... they r hard enough to make sense out of, let alone digging them up for you ... really u r quite an entertaining character at gup till the time u start playing the victim

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^^

Wane…That’s like catching a thief and then telling him to come up with evidence against himself…

It doesn’t happen…If you accuse someone you better back it up with some solid proof…

Now, stop blabbering…:hoonh:

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Lajawab go back and read what you wrote in the Lesbian topic. It's insulting to both women and Lesbians. Enough with the holier-than-thou BS.

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^^

Americans have become like Nazis...

Gays are filthy...

Uneducated people are unamannered...

These are general opinions which many will find insulting, however they are not personal attacks...

If everyone found everyone else's opinion as insulting, there wouldn't be opinions at all...

Attacking someone on a personal level is different...

At your age, UTD, it's a little hard to figure out between the two...

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General opinions can still be insulting Lajawba. Mind you I think it's your right to be as insulting as you want to be (as long as you aren't calling for harm against a person or group) but when you do insult a person or a group expect a reaction, people don't and shouldn't be tolerate (as you are calling for) of an opinion that expresses hate or inequality nor do people have to except your bizarre opinions without questioning them (it seems that this is what you want).

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Questions, I can stand and am more than willing to answer...Personal attacks I don't care for...

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Lajawab, :clap:…very good point, I’m very confident about my faith and really tolerant…I saw many people around me who are very intolerant because of their lack of faith…
it is especially a big problem for the muslims born and raised in kafir countries to have strong faith, reading your post makes it quite clear that the roots of the rise of obscurantism and extremism among young muslim in the west is linked to their lack of proper religious education, hence weak faith, therefore intolerance…

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Yet you have no problem throwing out attacks against women and Lesbians, how convenient. If your opinion is insulting and your explanation of those opinions is insulting (as well as contradicting in the Lesbian case) expect people to judge and throw labels on you. People are judged by others based off their opinions.

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Judge some more, you are so good at it! Allah has given you the gift of judging other peoples faith, bravo.

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What did you find insulting or attacking in my Lesbian post?

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Your statement that “Lesbianism is indeed a trademark of the ‘liberal’ women.”

Your insinuation that women are owned or conquered by men through the act of sex.

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Lesbianism is indeed a trademark of the 'liberal' women

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Its like a promo for a leftist add whats wrong with that?

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Do conservative women do it? Maybe…But I do know that lesbians are liberal…How else would they be classified as UTD? What is your point?

And ‘insinuation’ is a wrong word to use…It’s as if I am being derogatory…How about you use the word ‘suggest’…

My suggestion is just that…A suggestion…Don’t agree? Cool…Move on…

To be so morally indignant about something someone writes which in no way maligns anyone is absurd UTD…And I have a feeling you realize that too…

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and what do you want me to judge?
the lenght of your beard?
the hair going out of your hijab?
the fact that you allow non muslim to sit close to you without insulting them?