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Either you are confused or I am confused or we are both confused.
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We both need love or some confirmation of it.
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im not so confused :)
sorry to interrupt...
femme, from what iv read, i think when you talk about love, u mean it should be a natural feeling, something that doesnt require too much effort and is not done for the sake of it, its so abstract that saying it or showing it doesnt really mean it's felt. there shouldn't be a consious commitment involved in loving someone, it just happens... it's naturally felt..(i think some of these are my own thoughts :D )
funguy, i think she meant that you need to be told or shown that you are loved back and its this that is preventing you from moving on...relationship wise.
i dont really understand your comment about a reason to love someone back? does love require reasons? would you only love someone if they loved you back? and if they didnt would you then stop loving them? is it that easy to fall in and out of love?
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missy -
My understanding of expressing love is really screwed up. I do not believe in unconditional love. I also think that two people who are passionately in love may not have the same feelings the next morning. So, love is definitely conditional dependent.
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FG, I would call that passionate lust, not love.
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I thought FG was saying that once you know someone loves u the quest is over. Im pretty sure thats what he said. Then he says 'Someone loving me is a reason enough to love them back' Thats where I got confused.
Missy It really takes time. Let's talk about my much cherished friend for instance. Our downs were due to lack of understanding, After all this time I know how he works, why he does what he does and how to take what he says. Before I would misunderstand him all the time and end up arguing and fighting. Now I know better and it's so much more smooth. I accept him the way he is without asking him to change. I don;t need him to change because I understand him.
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That is anything but love. You have basically succumbed to his resilience and given up. You ain’t a lover but a loser.
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to each their own
I guess one should learn from their experiences and not spend too much effort and time trying to figure out what went wrong.
On a very personal level...i dont think i believe in love, i have ideas on how i think it should be and what i may feel, but i lack the confidence that i will someday be able to apply them to myself.
i think this is why i fall for older and married men, as i know nothing will ever happen, im safe and thats enough for me for the time being. :D
femme, this understanding thing, i think it can be applied to both, as in one needs to understand themselves and what they need and want out of a relationship as well as trying to understand the other person....she says so simply :)
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Try not to be a moron once in while fg.
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femme, this understanding thing, i think it can be applied to both, as in one needs to understand themselves and what they need and want out of a relationship as well as trying to understand the other person…she says so simply :)/QUOTE
I agree.
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Don't be offended. Didn't mean that you were a loser in general but loser in the battle of love with that particular person.
You think I am usually a moron?
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now, now...lets not fight...you aunties and uncles are meant to be role models for me...play nice please :D
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On the same note, is giving up on changing your partner a form of love too?. or is it more of a compromise?
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FG u need to be a little mature. Every person has a few faults. We even attribute faults to people for lack of better understanding. No one is picture perfect and liking someone involves agreeing to disagree and accepting people for who they are not for what u want them to be.
WHy must people change? Unless it is not something that hurts you or impacts you negatively why must it change? Everyone is different and it's these differences that make us who we are. I am not talking about giving up on people what I said was that sometimes we just don't understand other people and hold it against them. Once you are at the same wave length with another person then differences don;t turn in to obstacles.
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I should've know better and listened to my chaachaa who always advised me not to indulge in love debates with women. He told me there is only one winner in such confrontations and it sure ain't the one with balls.
throws safaid jhanda and runs off
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FG disagreeing doesn;t require anyone to throw the white flag.
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It's not the disagreement but I am actually starting to agree with your theories. That's very scary.
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her “theories” are commen sense, honestly… 
the woman makes sense cos she is a woman 
and your chacha’s right…
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Missy - Femme is not common at all. She has a very special place in my moronic heart. I only wish she was a little more loving.
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You always did…scaredy cat!
U wish I was more loving!!! Then you would stop loving me wouldn;t you 
The quest would be over. Jerk na ho tau.
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stop twisiting my words chick
anyway, i think you guys are cute together...Funguy, you could learn alot from Femme if shes the only person to have an effect on your "moronic heart" then im sure she'l have just she same effect on your mind...looks lke its already began, what with the agreeing and all.
too bad she doesnt love you :p